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But it's no excuse to make people wait for months and months based on a promise we haven't delivered too. It's time we have some action rather than just talk.
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well, ok let wait for some cool action to get the act together.
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Wow - thats fantastic news.
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vBAdvanced Links Directory would be something to look into. I'd give you my license if needed :p I'm sure Jelsoft could cover it though, but the offer stands. :)
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Wow... Administrative response due to "customer/user" complaints. I love that in a forum.
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I think I speak for everyone on vBorg and their underage sisters when I say: Thank you. One small suggestion though: Would it be possible to place golden posts like this in a Sticky and Locked thread in the Announcements section? As you have seen, posts is this thread gets buried under pointless bs rather quickly when both sides ran out of gas to throw on the fire, and I would hate for anyone to miss your posts. |
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I just wanted to pipe in here and say that I agree that the coders at vB.org make vBulletin a more appealing product. I handle a lot of the presales calls and tickets, and most times when a person asks about functionality that doesn't exist in vBulletin I've seen it as a mod over here and refer them to that.
There are literally hundreds of hacks over here I would love to see in the base product, but as you guys know, developing a base product is a balancing act between putting in functionality that people want and keeping the program light enough to operate on most shared hosting solutions without overloading the server. By offering the hacks you guys do you allow us to achieve that end while still being able to point to vB.org and telling people that X function is available there. I just wanted to thank all the coders here for all the hard work they put in. Sorry for being so long-winded about it. |
Thanks Martin. Its comments like this (and Erwins) that make contributers feel more appreciated than even install counts and w00t posts can.
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aww shucks. it weren't nothin...
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Thanks Martin! Glad to see Jelsoft does appreciate us lonely coders. :p
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I've read just the first few pages of this thread and must post in support of the coders here at vb.org - without them this site wouldn't really exist.
I personally feel Jelsoft should give something back to the coders because they actually enhance the product they sell, that essentially makes them money. Of course being a 'coder' doesn't give them a right to talk down to, or dissrespect other users (but I don't think I've ever seen that happen) but it should mean they are respected here (even by mods), after all without them the rest of us wouldn't come here (no hacks = no vb.org). I respect a lot of the coders here, Amy, Paul, Livewire to name a few and especially all those who release hacks for free - these coders are vB.orgs biggest assets. Paid hack developers are not so important to vb.org - perhaps to vb.com as 'compatible' products but not to vb.org which has always been about hacking and sharing (not selling). If a directory was added for paid hacks - I think they should expect to pay an annual listing fee with perhaps options to take out banner advertisements too, and any income should either be redistributed to the 'free' hackers or used to employ a hacker to release free hacks. Jmo. |
Whoa. Martin is from Honolulu. Local boyz represent!
OK...Back on topic. :classic: |
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In return, I want to thank you and vb.com for making a product that is fun to hack :) |
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AMEN! I just have one question. Why is putting together a paid hack directory so complicated? I built one - it wasnt very complicated: vBulletin FAQ Product and Services Reviews Directory It's free. Anyone can add their hacks, or leave reviews of hacks. Clearly with all the great coders here, something similar could be developed here in short order. - |
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Nope... Im no coder. |
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Historical reference. |
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True. However, you dont upload hacks to my directory, only a link to your hack. Users can freely add comments regarding the hacks listed. |
Certain measures have to be taken in order to project Jelsoft as a company. These mesaures don't take a year, but I belive vB.org has finally got the okay from Jelsoft to add this. So I'm sure the measures are now being looked into. I'm going to assume this will take a month or two at the latest. Don't quote me on that though.
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Yeah, that "So long and fairwell" thing was a bit premature on your part. Better to add qualifiers like "Don't quote me on this" in the future to avoid confusion. "So long and fairwell, although don't quote me on that. I probably won't leave for more than a few minutes, really."
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For God's sake. Stop it.
The whole message here is 'Community Fixing'. Your constant picking at it is far from achieving that aim. |
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What can I say, MPDev loves me! :)
[high]* Logikos huggs MPDev[/high] |
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If you have a problem with him sticking around after finding out his issues will be addressed, you are free to leave. And I do mean in the sense of now. |
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Don't get your panties in a bunch, girls; try to get a sense of humor and learn not to take yourself or others so seriously.
My only goal is to inject some levity in an otherwise blown-out-of-proportion event in our small world. You drink, you fight, you get beers the next night... its what men do. |
/me checks his "panties" to make sure they are NOT in a bunch
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lmao boofo............
I for one think that the new set up is a great idea and hopefully .org will continue to be an awesome site........... |
Not if I have anything to do with it. I suck, trust me on that. :cross-eyed:
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Look, you guys want respect, right? So, how do you think the best way is to go about getting that? Do you think you do it by making demands on the people who own the site or volunteer their time to keep it running? Have you been on the site so long that you now feel a sense of entitlement and that somehow your leaving will cause the site to crumble beneath you?
Get real. All of us run our own sites - how do you respond to people making these kinds of demands on you or on your time? And when they get upset, complain and tell you they are leaving; how does that make you feel? All your effort, all your work is trivialized and comes down to a few posts that make the difference between enjoying a site or leaving. Do you consider losing an Admin a positive step forward? You may not like me making light of this situation, but pointing out the absurd is something that had to be done. I would be shocked if any of you would have put up with half as much on your own site. And that's what it comes down to, doesn't it? My site, my rules, its not a democracy and people do not have the right to say whatever they want and say it's 'free speech'. People cannot make demands of my time anymore than I can make demands of theirs. If someone says they are leaving, I'll tell them "Thank you for your contributions and good luck in all your future endeavors.". I would suggest the same applies here - like it? Great, we'll hang out, share some mods, talk some smack and post some more mods. Over it? Leave the way you came, with a wave and a nod. Nothing more, nothing less. Those of us who have been around a long time have seen many posts like this and, yet, the site continues. It's evolution, folks; the site of today may not be the site of tomorrow and yet the site itself hasn't changed - the members have. Hey, I've had my beef with the policies and the Moderators here myself. I'm a commercial developer and would like the site to be more open to those kinds of add-ons. I expressed my opinions and moved on; its up to those who pay the bills to decide how they want to proceed. vb.org is a resource - we post our work, we take pleasure in the positive feedback and we keep doing this cycle until such a time as our schedule or the demands on our time no longer suit us. You don't need to make demands or empty threats to get your point across; nor should your involvement take away from the pride of ownership that those who work on the site have earned. Peace out. |
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@ MPDev - Very well said, sir. ;)
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My goal for the day was to put a smile on Boofo's face. My mission is complete and he gets a hello wave with all 5 fingers. :D
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Thank you, sir. Mission accomplished. ;)
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In your own words, get real. Also I can hardly see the comparison between another forum and this site. Is your site owned by a respectable company that sells their products, and your site the sole reason why a good portion of the company's customers choose that product and not one of its competitors? I think not. Even if we disregard the Jelsoft benefit aspect of this site, I doubt your users contribute to your forum with actual hours of work that could easily be sold for a small fee. Comparing a random forum's users to the coders at vBorg is like comparing a nugget of iron to a key. The key could be used to unlock great treasure (Jelsoft sales) and the nugget of iron can be painted yellow and sold to some dumb bastard that believes its gold. |
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