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Kihon Kata 06-12-2006 02:05 PM
Logician, Thanks for featuring one of my sites up on your release.

Hey, why would my CSS not working properly with this?
It calls the CSS from a:
Code:
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="CSS URL HERE">
Here is my page I'm trying to get the css to work with

Logician 06-12-2006 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kihon Kata
Hey, why would my CSS not working properly with this?
It calls the CSS from a:
Code:
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="CSS URL HERE">
Here is my page I'm trying to get the css to work with
Because you removed vbulletin style itself while using this custom stylesheet so some vb HTML tags are now orphaned. For instance webtemplate footer has "thead" class which is part of default vbulletin style but your stylesheet does not define it properly.

Kihon Kata 06-12-2006 02:29 PM
But, shouldn't my custom stylesheet work in lue of the vB one? It works fine on other pages (non CMS)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Logician
Because you removed vbulletin style itself while using this custom stylesheet so some vb HTML tags are now orphaned. For instance webtemplate footer has "thead" class which is part of default vbulletin style but your stylesheet does not define it properly.

jeffj 06-12-2006 02:51 PM
since no one has ever responded to my prior post asking a question about this mod, I'll make the following observation and someone can dispute it if they like.

it appears to me as though you have to generate custom links in vb to get any of this code to work (if you want to display a page using the web templates mod)

I asked if templates created with this mod could be used in certain forums (as the forum template) and no one responded.

Since then I have download and installed this mod and found out that the answer is NO - you cannot use this mod to create custom templates for certain fourms.

To be honest - without generating custom links inside VB I'm sure what what use this mod is.. I see the benefit for custom pages on your site, but you have to generate custom links inside your html/menuing system or vbcode to display these templates.

I exported my default style and changed the name - then re-imported the style and applied that style to my new forum on my website. I will simply change the templates that need to be changed inside that style to accomplish what I need.

Unless someone can tell me an easy way to use the templates in this mod and apply those templates to one of my forums I will be removing this mod since it does not need my needs without hacking other code.

This is a very nice mod if you have need for it... very straight forward, well thought out and very comprehensive...

- jeff

Kihon Kata 06-12-2006 03:05 PM
I agree on some parts of your complaints. This templates system is for users with advanced/semi-advanced experience with php/html/vB, unless of course you are just using the prebuilt ones that Logician has included herein. Logician usually is good at responding to questions, but it seems as if sometimes he forgets that novice users may be implementing this and trying to use it. Nevertheless, I appreciate his work here. I can tell you that MANY hours were eaten up building this system and he should be complimented for that. Luckily I had someone asisst me in building something that I could use with this system. Now I just plug in info and it works. I, for one, love the permissions implemented for use with this.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffj
since no one has ever responded to my prior post asking a question about this mod, I'll make the following observation and someone can dispute it if they like.

it appears to me as though you have to generate custom links in vb to get any of this code to work (if you want to display a page using the web templates mod)

I asked if templates created with this mod could be used in certain forums (as the forum template) and no one responded.

Since then I have download and installed this mod and found out that the answer is NO - you cannot use this mod to create custom templates for certain fourms.

To be honest - without generating custom links inside VB I'm sure what what use this mod is.. I see the benefit for custom pages on your site, but you have to generate custom links inside your html/menuing system or vbcode to display these templates.

I exported my default style and changed the name - then re-imported the style and applied that style to my new forum on my website. I will simply change the templates that need to be changed inside that style to accomplish what I need.

Unless someone can tell me an easy way to use the templates in this mod and apply those templates to one of my forums I will be removing this mod since it does not need my needs without hacking other code.

This is a very nice mod if you have need for it... very straight forward, well thought out and very comprehensive...

- jeff

jeffj 06-12-2006 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kihon Kata
I agree on some parts of your complaints. This templates system is for users with advanced/semi-advanced experience with php/html/vB, unless of course you are just using the prebuilt ones that Logician has included herein. Logician usually is good at responding to questions, but it seems as if sometimes he forgets that novice users may be implementing this and trying to use it. Nevertheless, I appreciate his work here. I can tell you that MANY hours were eaten up building this system and he should be complimented for that. Luckily I had someone asisst me in building something that I could use with this system. Now I just plug in info and it works. I, for one, love the permissions implemented for use with this.
First - my opinion was not a complaint
Second - I am not a novice user have written and contributed numerous mods myself.

Finally - my post was merely an observation based on a lack of response.

Kihon Kata 06-12-2006 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffj
First - my opinion was not a complaint
My bad!
Complaint was a bad choice of words, sorry.

Quote:
Second - I am not a novice user have written and contributed numerous mods myself.
Then you should have no problem implementing changes then.

Logician 06-13-2006 07:19 PM
Quote:
Finally - my post was merely an observation based on a lack of response.
Thanks for sharing your observations and sorry for the inconvience with the lack of response. I just want to tell my part of the story so that I can be excused for this in the future too:

I used to be VERY active in vb.org a few years ago. I had a lot of hacks (I used to be second hacker with most hack releases) and I provided hundreds (literally) of hacks in vb2 hack requests forum for requests of other people. If I released all in these forums, believe me my hack count will be around 300-400.

However my business schedule does not allow me to spend more time in vb.org anymore even though I enjoy sharing hacks and helping others. So I stopped releasing new hack threads and attending to hack requests forum. I focussed supporting my existing hacks which are popular (like Webtemplates) since many people are dependant on it. But even this can be very time consuming and tiresome when your hack count is high, hacks are complicated and you get a lot of support questions via thread, email and PM system.

I have many other ready hacks which I use in my own board that can be popular if released here but I am afraid to release anymore (even if the are already coded) because I don't think I can spend time to give support to new hacks. Even if this is just answering questions.

Even the answer questions can sometimes be a problem. I give very detailed instructions, manuals, FAQs about my hacks to reduce number of help requests but this does not help much. Sometimes a user claim, there is a bug in the system, you check twice, exchange a lot of messages with the user, even get access info to test things yourself and then it figures that he just didn't read instructions well and missing an obvious step. Time wasted for nothing! Or you give an answer to a user but a month later another user asks the same question and says he doesn't have time to check if it is already answered in the thread. Like we have time to answer same questions everyday! ^^

Bottom line, I'm not in the position of supporting my hacks very well due to my busy schedule anymore. I can follow 2 paths:
1- I can remove all my hacks and don't release new ones.
2- I can release them as they are but without support.

I choose to follow the second path because I believe that this helps people who can use the hack without needing support. I'm aware people which needs help is not happy to not receive it in this scenario and I'm sorry for them but I still think this is better than removing all my hacks due to lack of time. I'm doing my best to give easy answers to questions when I can have time but I can not spare time to give a full support and cover all questions anymore. Sorry for this.

Logician 06-13-2006 07:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffj
I asked if templates created with this mod could be used in certain forums (as the forum template) and no one responded.
After that looong story above, here is my comment: :knockedout:

The answer is "no" as you found out because this mod is for creating "sites other pages" which is powered by vbulletin. However what you are trying to achieve is change vbulletin's postbit system to make it look like something else in different forums. This request does not have any relation to what this hack does.

Quote:
I exported my default style and changed the name - then re-imported the style and applied that style to my new forum on my website. I will simply change the templates that need to be changed inside that style to accomplish what I need.
Exactly! So I don't know why you need this hack (or any hack) for this request in the first place. ;)

Logician 06-13-2006 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kihon Kata
But, shouldn't my custom stylesheet work in lue of the vB one? It works fine on other pages (non CMS)
It does IF you include "$headinclude" variable into your webtemplate/webtemplate theme you are using. You probably didnt do this

Kihon Kata 06-13-2006 07:52 PM
Thanks for your nice reply. Very sorry Logician to hear that, but I am personally wishing you best of luck with your job...I know the feeling.

Now, where exactly do I add "$headinclude"? I tried adding it to my header and to the template and it didn't work. Also I am using "no parent template" option.

Here is how I use this:

(Parse method is PHP)

Code:
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/top.php");
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/newsletter-google.php");

$userid=$bbuserinfo['userid'];
    $usrObj=new users($userid);
    $username=$usrObj->getUsername();
    print("$popupthepm");

$mesg=$_POST[mesg];
                if(!$mesg)
                $mesg=$_GET[mesg];

echo <<<TOP
<div align="center">
<table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse">

            <tr>
                <td width="1">&nbsp;</td>
                <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><strong><font class=mesg>
                $mesg</strong>
            </tr>

TOP;
echo <<<MAIN

<!----------- BEGIN HTML ----------->


lalalalala MY HTML goes here


<!----------- /HTML ----------->


<table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="7" cellpadding="5" bordercolor="#C0C0C0">
<tr>
  <td class="thead" align="left">Page
      Visitors: <b>$count</b>, Last Visitor was $WT[lastvisitorname]
      at $WT[lastvisitdate].<br>
      Page Created at <b>$creationdate</b>, Last Modified
      : <b>$lasteditdate</b>.</td>
 </tr>
</table>
    </td>
        </tr>
      </table>
    </td>
        </tr>
      </table>

MAIN;
echo <<<BOTTOM
</table>
</div>
BOTTOM;
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/footer-newsletter.php");
Mayeb you can take a look at it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Logician
It does IF you include "$headinclude" variable into your webtemplate/webtemplate theme you are using. You probably didnt do this

Logician 06-13-2006 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kihon Kata
Thanks for your nice reply. Very sorry Logician to hear that, but I am personally wishing you best of luck with your job...I know the feeling.

Now, where exactly do I add "$headinclude"? I tried adding it to my header and to the template and it didn't work. Also I am using "no parent template" option.

Here is how I use this:

(Parse method is PHP)

Code:
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/top.php");
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/newsletter-google.php");
 
$userid=$bbuserinfo['userid'];
    $usrObj=new users($userid);
    $username=$usrObj->getUsername();
    print("$popupthepm");
 
$mesg=$_POST[mesg];
                if(!$mesg)
                $mesg=$_GET[mesg];
 
echo <<<TOP
<div align="center">
<table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse">
 
            <tr>
                <td width="1">&nbsp;</td>
                <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><strong><font class=mesg>
                $mesg</strong>
            </tr>
 
TOP;
echo <<<MAIN
 
<!----------- BEGIN HTML ----------->
 
 
lalalalala MY HTML goes here
 
 
<!----------- /HTML ----------->
 
 
<table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="7" cellpadding="5" bordercolor="#C0C0C0">
<tr>
  <td class="thead" align="left">Page
      Visitors: <b>$count</b>, Last Visitor was $WT[lastvisitorname]
      at $WT[lastvisitdate].<br>
      Page Created at <b>$creationdate</b>, Last Modified
      : <b>$lasteditdate</b>.</td>
 </tr>
</table>
    </td>
        </tr>
      </table>
    </td>
        </tr>
      </table>
 
MAIN;
echo <<<BOTTOM
</table>
</div>
BOTTOM;
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/footer-newsletter.php");
Mayeb you can take a look at it.
vb $headinclude should come before </head> tag so you must include it somewhere inside your included file:
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/top.php");

If you can't do it for some reason, alternatively you can remove your vb tags in your code. Eg. don't use

class='thead'

inside your webtemplate.

Kihon Kata 06-14-2006 01:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logician
vb $headinclude should come before </head> tag so you must include it somewhere inside your included file:
include("/home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/top.php");

If you can't do it for some reason, alternatively you can remove your vb tags in your code. Eg. don't use

class='thead'

inside your webtemplate.
I am not sure what or how to properly code up the include inside my /home/httpd/vhosts/MYSITE.com/httpdocs/scripts-includes/top.php so I can't do that.

So I went for your alternate way, and I didn't have any "thead" in my tempate other than how it's shows up in my last post.

EDIT: I fooled around with it and now my CSS works LOL

King Kovifor 06-18-2006 04:11 PM
Question, I've uploaded "wt_wt.php" but it can't find the file when I'm in the ACP... Any help would be appreciated!

Logician 06-18-2006 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kovifor
Question, I've uploaded "wt_wt.php" but it can't find the file when I'm in the ACP... Any help would be appreciated!
Make sure you uploaded, includes/xml/cpnav_webtemplates.xml and then refreshed the admincp

King Kovifor 06-18-2006 04:30 PM
I've uploaded it, and i've restarted my browser about 4 times... It's still not working.

Another Note: In 3.6.0 Beta 2, you can't export your templates...

And if you do something like delete template (as i've renamed it and uploaded a second copy wt_webtemp.php) it will register wt_wt.php?do=killtemp and those things.

Logician 06-18-2006 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kovifor
I've uploaded it, and i've restarted my browser about 4 times... It's still not working.

Another Note: In 3.6.0 Beta 2, you can't export your templates...

And if you do something like delete template (as i've renamed it and uploaded a second copy wt_webtemp.php) it will register wt_wt.php?do=killtemp and those things.
So is this board version 3.6.0? Sorry but I didn't confirm the hack works with that version yet. This is probably why.

King Kovifor 06-18-2006 04:37 PM
So far everything works except the reading of the file as wt_wt.php and the export templates...

OK I've solved my problem with the file by editing the file wt_wt.php. replacing anything wt_wt with wt_webtemp

tommyxv 06-19-2006 04:24 PM
I installed this on a fresh 3.6 beta 2 install (my test forum) and it works without any problems.

:)

King Kovifor 06-19-2006 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyxv
I installed this on a fresh 3.6 beta 2 install (my test forum) and it works without any problems.

:)
try exporting you templates....

LTW 06-20-2006 03:21 PM
This is a great hack.

Thank You.

LTW

kira 06-24-2006 07:29 PM
Hi Logician. I just wanted to thank you for this extremely versatile and useful system. I used the original version in my vb2 forum for years, and now that I've finally upgraded I'm delighted to see how much more powerful the vb3 version is. The ability to give editorial permissions and allow others to edit via the WYSIWYG panel is incredible!

So again, thank you for all the time and considerable effort you've put into this essential mod. :)

StuntFactoryX 07-01-2006 06:58 AM
installed. very noob friendly, thank you very much. working on 3.5.4. w/ embedded flash gallery.

webgroup 07-05-2006 07:53 PM
Excellent product!! :)

I have been breaking my head looking how to remove the footer copyrights.

I removed everything and still showing the copyright messages.

Any help?

Logician 07-05-2006 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by webgroup
I have been breaking my head looking how to remove the footer copyrights.
Please do not remove the footer copyright. This is a free hack so what's the harm if it has a small tagline in the footer? It helps me keep stats of websites using the hack.

webgroup 07-05-2006 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logician
Please do not remove the footer copyright. This is a free hack so what's the harm if it has a small tagline in the footer? It helps me keep stats of websites using the hack.
I'm talking about the vbulletin copyrights.:)
I paid to remove the copyright, and its already removed from all my forum, but somehow its appearing and all the logician's templates pages.

I want to remove the vbulletin copyrights, not yours.

Please help

Rik Brown 07-05-2006 08:31 PM
Logician:

Just installed the current version online today with vb 3.5.3 which just took a few minutes to accomplish (thanks!).

However, when I went to view the sample 2 test pages I got the following error messages above the webpage (the webpage otherwise displayed properly):

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=25) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=28) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=27) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=27) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=24) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=31) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=29) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Any ideas?

Thanks. -- Rik

Logician 07-05-2006 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rik Brown
Logician:

Just installed the current version online today with vb 3.5.3 which just took a few minutes to accomplish (thanks!).

However, when I went to view the sample 2 test pages I got the following error messages above the webpage (the webpage otherwise displayed properly):

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=25) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=28) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=27) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=27) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=24) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=31) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Warning: Unexpected character in input: '' (ASCII=29) state=2 in /var/www/html/subs/forums/view.php(1006) : eval()'d code on line 704

Any ideas?

Thanks. -- Rik
Sounds like a problem in installation. Looks like some characters didnt imported well. Probably line breaks became  somehow in the exporting. Can be because of character encoding of your MYSQL version or smt. Cant say why without digging deep into your server.

Temporary solution, in view.php find:
PHP Code:
eval('print_output("' . WTgettemplate("$WT[themetemplate_un]") . '");'); 
replace it with:
PHP Code:
@eval('print_output("' . WTgettemplate("$WT[themetemplate_un]") . '");'); 
This will not fix the problem but it will silence it so error messages will be gone.

Rik Brown 07-05-2006 11:32 PM
Logician: The code change with the preceding "@" eliminated the error messages. I look forward to trying this out.

Thanks. -- Rik

oninuva 07-08-2006 02:04 AM
would the next update have a Wysing or what ever thingy?

Kihon Kata 07-08-2006 02:44 AM
it does if you are editing in txt mode

Quote:
Originally Posted by oninuva
would the next update have a Wysing or what ever thingy?

Trues 07-08-2006 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CallieJo2
Okies...I can pull it up with:
PHP Code:
<?php 
echo $stylevar[htmldoctype];
echo $headinclude;
echo $header;
echo $navbar;
include ("http://www.mydomain.com/folder/index.php"); 
echo $footer;
?>
But after it submits the info from my form it goes back to that scripts default look...anyway to keep the vb look after submitting the form? Thanks...
I'm having the same issue, any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

morrow 07-10-2006 04:57 PM
I know there are PHP restrictions for using this script. I have a rather simple script that doesn't seam to work. Can someone help me modify it so it can work within webtemplates? I'm not sure if it's possible or not but it would be great if it was!

PHP Code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN">

<html>
<head>
    <title>U.S. Geological Survey</title>

</head>

<body>

<table>
    <thead>
        <tr>
            <td>USGS</td>
            <td>Station</td>
            <td>Date</td>
            <td>Time</td>
            <td>Height</td>
            <td>CFS</td>
            <td>Temperature</td>
        </tr>
    </thead>

    <tbody>
<?php
$content=file("http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ny/nwis/uv?format=rdb&period=1&site_no=01427510"); 

foreach($content as $line)
{
    if( substr($line, 0, 4)=="USGS" )
    {
        echo "<tr>";
        $column = explode("\t", $line);
        echo "<td>".$column[0]."</td>";
        echo "<td>".$column[1]."</td>";        
        echo "<td>".date("j F Y" ,strtotime($column[2]))."</td>";    
        echo "<td>".date("H:i:s" ,strtotime($column[2]))."</td>";    
        echo "<td>".$column[3]."</td>";    
        echo "<td>".$column[4]."</td>";    
        echo "<td>".$column[5]."</td>";    
        echo "</tr>";
    }
}
?>
    </tbody>
</table>

</body>
</html>

morrow 07-12-2006 07:06 PM
anyone?

Kihon Kata 07-12-2006 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by morrow
anyone?
You're prolly gunna have to wait for Logician

orphan 07-17-2006 07:14 AM
will\need this mob be updated to work with v3.6 ?

-=Sniper=- 07-17-2006 10:07 AM
3.6 RC1 seems to be working

Kihon Kata 07-17-2006 01:07 PM
3.6 beta 1, works fine for me

drn 07-17-2006 09:09 PM
Hi,

First just a quick thanks for a neat add-on. Ideal for simple pages. I do have a problem with VBulletin Styles though.

My site has 2 areas - one area is branded in a particula style and includes some webtemplates. If I log in as the guest user - then the webtemplates are displayed in the default style for the whole site. Is there any way that alter the default style for the webtemplates rather than using the site default?

Ben

bhxtyrant 07-18-2006 02:04 AM
Hey guys,I was wondering does webtemplates have a "block" type layout like vBACMPS?and also does it have a place to create menu blocks for certain pages?I love the sound of this CMS over VBA but if it doesnt have those two options i dont think it will suit me.Thanks


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  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/modsystem_functions.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode_alt.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php 
Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • init_startup_session_setup_start
  • init_startup_session_setup_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • printthread_start
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • printthread_post
  • printthread_complete