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Shack Networks 11-25-2004 10:04 PM

Thanks Man I realy appreciate the reply, this hack is a god send and I have often wondered why a system like this was NEVER incorporated into vBull in the first place as it would of saved many Admins a lot of time and heartache.

I was thinking it would be a good idea to try and automate several of the warnings if possible... No idea how it would work but it would be fantastic if it could be pulled off..

Many thanks and heres to looking forward for a VIP fix lol

Ta

H

ChrisLM2001 11-25-2004 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcyates
I think that this is something I should address, by not resetting his total points to 10, but leaving them at whatever they were the moment he got banned, i.e. 14 in this case. In that way, even when the minor offenses are removed, he still has the 7 points from the major one, and with 3 more he gets banned again.

What do you people think?

That would be better, just let the points warning do the job. and when one warning is removed and the points go below the banned limit he is unbanned

That's a good suggestion. Try to make it as automatic as possible, too. Points come down, and the offender can get the green light to return. Would be nice if this hack can be written so after the points do come down, an Admin can choose which usergroup the offender can return too. Either his former one, or a moderated one. That's one less followup an Admin needs to do. Set it and forget it.

Sv1cec: thanks for the heads up about the email variations, too. :)

Chris

fpouk 11-26-2004 02:07 AM

Any way of setting this hack up where only admins or admins and mods can view the warnings of people. Dont really like the idea of other members being able to view others warning levels.

thanks

SamirDarji 11-26-2004 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sv1cec
I tend to agree with you.

The only problem is, that with the system as it is now, when a member reaches the maximum points and he is banned, his total warning points get reset to the maximum warning points. When the lesser warnings start getting removed, he artificially ends up with fewer points than he should have. In your example above, and assuming that the first offense was worth 2 points, the second 7 and the third 5, when the user was banned, he had 14 points, but the moment he gets banned he is left with 10 (let's assume the limit is 10). When the two minor warnings expire, (2+5) he is left with only 3 points.

I think that this is something I should address, by not resetting his total points to 10, but leaving them at whatever they were the moment he got banned, i.e. 14 in this case. In that way, even when the minor offenses are removed, he still has the 7 points from the major one, and with 3 more he gets banned again.

You know, when I first read how the system would reset the total to ban level, I thought that it shoud work differently. But at that time it really didn't affect too much, so it wasn't of much concern. Now it does affect the way warnings and bans would expire. I'm not sure how hard it would be to make it keep the total as opposed to resetting it, but if it is too hard, having the 3 points (in your example) would be better than 0. I'm sure whatever changes (if any) that need to be done will be positive.

And I think I need to say this as well. I have been working with vb extensively for a couple of months now on my site, and I have worked on all sorts issues and hacks/fixes. I need to say that the support for this hack (and everything John has done for this warning hack) is far beyond what I have seen even for pay solutions. Thank you John for dedicating this type of time and effort to the community. Your contribution means so much to so many of us. I vote this should be the hack of the month.

sv1cec 11-26-2004 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamirDarji
You know, when I first read how the system would reset the total to ban level, I thought that it shoud work differently. But at that time it really didn't affect too much, so it wasn't of much concern. Now it does affect the way warnings and bans would expire. I'm not sure how hard it would be to make it keep the total as opposed to resetting it, but if it is too hard, having the 3 points (in your example) would be better than 0. I'm sure whatever changes (if any) that need to be done will be positive.

And I think I need to say this as well. I have been working with vb extensively for a couple of months now on my site, and I have worked on all sorts issues and hacks/fixes. I need to say that the support for this hack (and everything John has done for this warning hack) is far beyond what I have seen even for pay solutions. Thank you John for dedicating this type of time and effort to the community. Your contribution means so much to so many of us. I vote this should be the hack of the month.

OK, let me try to answer some of the latest posts here:

1. I have to thank SamirDarji for the nice words, sincerely appreciated.

2. From next release, points would accumulate and not be reset to the maximum. Please be careful, I do not say that banned members will be unbanned, based on the expiration of the warnings, this is more involved and it might take some time. But if the warning points are not reset, then at least someone can always do the maths and come up with the right answers. As it is today, you may see 4 points, and wonder where are the rest of them, since the totals for the warnings one has received maybe 12 or 15.

3. Automating warnings: I'll check it out today and see how easy it is to implement it in a subversion, or if a new version would be required.

4. For ChrisLM2001, at the moment, the banned member is restored to his previous usergroup when he is unbanned. I can add a Warning Options, in which you could specify the user group in which the member is returned into. Would that help?

5. For fpouk, it can be done, you just have to enclose the part which shows the warning points and bans, in conditionals similar to the ones used for showing the "Warn XYZ" and "View XYZ's Warnings". The question is, if you are using hierarchical, then the Super Mods will be able to see the warning points of the mods. Do you want it that way? For your help, it's in the postbit template (or postbit_legacy).

6. For Shack Networks, if you do not use the hierarchical schema, I think your admins/supermods/mods can warn any other usergroup. I'll change it so that this works that way, even with hierarchical.

7. For Shack Networks, as for your list idea, I can check what it means to check the words against a list and add a warning automatically. As for the web sites list, I think this can wait, I am not sure I have the expertise to do it, so maybe in release... 12.0.0. LoL

OK, if you guys don't make me answer so many posts here I would have time to work more on the hack. See you later, I am going to make the "to do" list and start working.

Rgds
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John

sv1cec 11-26-2004 12:35 PM

OK folks, some of your wishes have become a reality.

I just uploaded version 1.3, which answers your requests for:

- Being able to warn users belonging to other usergroups than "registered users"
- Being able to define who can see the warning level and the number of bans of your members, in postbit (it's either "All" or "Mgm" which stands for management team)
- Being able to define a user group in which your banned users get restored, when they get unbanned. I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS THING, I DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO TEST IT, SO WHOVEVER ASKED FOR IT, TRY IT AND LET ME KNOW.

I also added a new report, in the AdminCP, which allows you to see which of your members have been warned.

I still need to check the issue about the restricted words.

Rgds
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John

mcyates 11-26-2004 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sv1cec
OK folks, some of your wishes have become a reality.

I just uploaded version 1.3, which answers your requests for:

- Being able to warn users belonging to other usergroups than "registered users"
- Being able to define who can see the warning level and the number of bans of your members, in postbit (it's either "All" or "Mgm" which stands for management team)
- Being able to define a user group in which your banned users get restored, when they get unbanned. I HAVE NOT TESTED THIS THING, I DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO TEST IT, SO WHOVEVER ASKED FOR IT, TRY IT AND LET ME KNOW.

I also added a new report, in the AdminCP, which allows you to see which of your members have been warned.

I still need to check the issue about the restricted words.

Rgds
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John

your the best!!!! Cheers

Updating it now.

mcyates 11-26-2004 02:23 PM

updated everything seems to be working fine.

One question, when peoples bans run out, they are automatically unbanned andthire warnings are reset to 0? Right? Or do the warnings stay untill they have done their course? Say the warning was for 30 days, would that we wiped or would it stay?

sv1cec 11-26-2004 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcyates
updated everything seems to be working fine.

One question, when peoples bans run out, they are automatically unbanned andthire warnings are reset to 0? Right? Or do the warnings stay untill they have done their course? Say the warning was for 30 days, would that we wiped or would it stay?

Warnings stay, they are not removed when the user gets unbanned.

Rgds
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John

mcyates 11-26-2004 02:37 PM

oh right, so i have to remove them manually then?


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