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Dan_UPC 10-06-2003 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Erwin
I uninstalled this hack in the end at my private forums, basically because some members using IE for some reason got really wide threads. Don't ask me why. :)
I've also found and documented this.

Dan_UPC 10-07-2003 06:38 AM
With GZIP enabled, this hack is almost redundant ... the savings equate to about 1% or so over and above a GZIPPED page. The reported savings on a GZIP Enabled board are also bogus because it reports the size difference before being put thru GZIP.

Logician 10-07-2003 07:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan_UPC
With GZIP enabled, this hack is almost redundant ... the savings equate to about 1% or so over and above a GZIPPED page. The reported savings on a GZIP Enabled board are also bogus because it reports the size difference before being put thru GZIP.
The hack is effective even with GZIP enabled. The hack is removing certain characters from your source code so making it smaller in size. Since your hacked page's source code is now smaller, the gzipped outcome of it will be smaller then the gzipped outcome of unhacked page. The hack is using completely a different algorithm than GZIP to save bandwidth so you can not say it is redundant with GZIP.

If you ZIPed a Microsoft Word document, would it be redundant to remove a few pages of the original document just because you ZIPed? If you remove some pages before the compression, the ZIPed outcome will become smaller, it is simple aritmetic.

But you don't agree, please uninstall it. It is not mandatory to use it..

Dan_UPC 10-07-2003 10:28 AM
Logician,

I'm not saying that it is 100% redundant but it makes very little difference if you've got gzip turned on ... I tested with gzip on with and without this and the difference is extremely small. It also has bugs that make it a big pain to use on some pages. I'm not complaining, just trying to give a bit of constructive criticism as with a bit of tweaking I can see this being of use to some people.

Erwin 10-07-2003 11:18 AM
I still can't explain why some threads become wide. Any ideas? The only one I can think of is carriage breaks caused by spaces in HTML are removed.

Dan_UPC 10-07-2003 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erwin
I still can't explain why some threads become wide. Any ideas? The only one I can think of is carriage breaks caused by spaces in HTML are removed.
I'm investigating it at the moment ... should have an answer for you by the end of the week.

Logician 10-07-2003 01:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erwin
I still can't explain why some threads become wide. Any ideas? The only one I can think of is carriage breaks caused by spaces in HTML are removed.
Erwin, I guess it should be possible to find the cause when you check the source code of such threads with and without the hack.

I'm not able to track/debug it because I have never experienced such a problem in the boards I have installed the hack. The only display problem I witnessed and reported in the FAQ is the page split links getting closer to eachother.

Logician 10-07-2003 01:44 PM
BTW. please note I have never tested it in VB3 which may be the reason of your problem..

Dan_UPC 10-07-2003 02:28 PM
Ok, I've worked out what was causing the really wide tables in my case. I'll post a fix in the next 48hrs.

Red Blaze 10-07-2003 05:10 PM
whoa! Damn it does load faster! =o

Thanks for the hack. ^__^


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