I like the Social Networking features... :cool: Why are people complaining? Isn't Social Networking the goal of forums? :confused:

Why would you pay $60 a year for less features?I do admit User Privacy and Full Admin Control should be the Administrator's call. :)

Seems like vBulletin is in a Kobayashi Maru (no-win situation) with some of their customers. When new features are added, on the one hand you have those that think the addition of those features are useless or just not necessary. And on the other you have those that think vB is stealing the good ideas of mod developers (because I guess they think they're in competition with them or something).

we thought that about the blog as well ;)

speaking of upgrades, howcome vbulletin.org is still using 3.6x ?

The challenge for a sizable segment of vBulletin Customers are those of us who run "Big Boards" (which I define as more than 1,000,000 posts, and thousands of users, with hundreds of concurrent connections at peak), because the addition of optional features often are done at a premium cost of depreciating overall performance. With a sub-par search system that lags the competition badly, vBulletin should make it a priority to invest in a completely redesigned, scalable, high-performance search solution for its forum software. When free solutions, like phpBB, have a fully supported Sphinx Search integration, but the best that vBulletin can hope for is a patchwork of guesstimates by its (very loyal) userbase, there is a huge problem of scalability that makes vBulletin a less-than-ideal solution for sites that are beginning to outgrow dual-server configurations. It becomes a real client value proposition at that point: why stick with vBulletin over the competition?

Having been with vBulletin for the past decade, I am holding on to the hope that they will rise to the challenge that matches performance and scalability with new features and functionality the way that CommunityBulletin, OpenTopic, and LiquidFusion do.

Search the site feedback forum.

What a nightmare for those of us just want a solid, basic & secure forum. We don't use, reputation, ratings, infractions, social groups, tags, reason for edit message, advertising etc. A global 'feature rich' on/off button or a script to revert to 36 would be the go. Great forum, don't need the rest.

Being that everyone's needs are going to particular and specific, it would impossible to choose which features to group as "feature rich". That's kind of the point of having a feature rich forum to begin with. You get to decide what you don't want and what you do based on your specific needs.

does this mean we as customers dont recieve the 3.8?

Why demonstrate the product?

Customers will not get an Alpha version, but will probably be able t download beta versions.

We are not demonstrating the product on vB.com but Alpha testing.