Chris it's not a personal issue. I have no connection with Paul M's site in any way (other than being a member there), nor any problem with Peterska2.

By labelling my post as deleted/edited due to 'bringing personal issues' in, you're giving people the impression that I came into this thread and moaned at someone, which I did not. What I did was to disclose a material fact that has a bearing on the viewpoint of a particular poster. Not to get anyone into trouble, but to put the vociferous claims for the banning of Paul M into some sort of context.

It is so much *not* a personal issue that it didn't even occur to me at first, otherwise I'd obviously have mentioned it earlier.

Nonetheless, you're the boss, if you don't want it brought up then fine. But I'd appreciate it if the wording in my now-edited post could be amended as it grossly misrepresents what was said.

I'm sorry, but 'the entire modification is doing stuff the end user never knew about and auto clicking the install button' (WHEN THEY WERE FREAKING INSTALLING IT) is about as malicious as
As a lot of users assume clicking the install button actually installs the modification for you, I doubt anyone is filing with Data Protection over something so trivial. After all, don't you think the user would realize something was up when they say Installed in front of the thread title?
I installed a style once. It had a wc3 image at the bottom that clearly didn't come with the style. Freaky stuff ill tell you.

If you download my work but don't install it, what the hell are you doing with it? It plays a lousy game of Parcheesi. I didn't even know you could download 400 hacks from here.

I think a simple word to the offender would have sufficed instead of having it seem that clicking an install button was akin to cannibalism.

I have re-worded my edit :)

Chris

Many thanks Chris, I appreciate that.

This is not about "one person". This "problem" is bigger than some may think.

It always starts innocent, but then becomes malicious. I'm sure you don't someone else who is just a coder here tracking your activities. What is to stop this happening if this is nipped in the bud now?

The install button wording has been addressed and new buttons are present in some styles and will arriving soon in the other styles.

You would be surprized how many vB3.5 mods alone there are.

Having a simple word to the current offending coders would not stop anyone else doing it. What is to stop you, or someone else from looking at a hack with a high install count, seeing how they have coded the install button click, and then adding it to your own hacks? It would become a cycle. Better to break the cycle publically now than to let the issue continue just with different coders as some are told about it privately and others pick up the practice.

Seconded. The issue here is quite widespread, hence it being addressed before it goes any further.

The point I am trying to make is that it isn't malicious regardless of if 1 person does it or if 1000 people do it.
If the thread says 'if you install this, click install' then you NOT clicking it is a violation of the terms set forth by the coder :P

My point is that if its regarding clicking the install button - you guys have turned a mountain out of a (non malicious) molehill.

If its about something greater than that - then focus the debate on that! :D

Huh ?

Just exactly what am I searching for ways out of ?? I PM'd you and asked if this thread was about my code and you flatly refused to answer. Even now it's not actually been stated anywhere that this is about my auto install link code, it's been left to us to work it out. You avoid and bluster like a politician when asked to confirm a simple question - was this about my code or not.

Do you see me deny that that I included this in a few hacks last month ? No. Did it break any rules, No. In fact, had it worked 100% correctly the only thing it would do is make the install count a little more accurate, since it only got called if you installed it (not downloaded it) - and it clicked uninstall if you removed it (how many people do that manually ?)

You state that you have been discussing this for weeks (it's only existed for five weeks !) yet no one once actually bothered to contact me once - instead you wait a few weeks and post a massive thread which has a tone like the end of the world has just arrived. Talk of nonsense like loopholes, security threats, and the like - none of which has any relevance to my two lines of code.

This is nothing new - I recall seeing that in other older hacks/mods - even in vb2. Also, when I was with wbb (before converting to vb 2.x.x) I noticed most of theirs had that as well as other board systems.

I personally see nothing wrong with this as long as its function is stated in the install/readme file.

However, I can also see where this could potientially(msp?) be a major issue if left alone and unaddressed.

I am glad this was noticed so the proper action could be taken.

:)

I agree. I see nothing wrong with it if it was STATED to the user. But, that's not the case here.