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Strike3ForumsMH 02-12-2008 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWL (Post 1441650)
I have a question, and I would appreciate some very serious and honest answers


How well does this really work and does it really improve site visits and crawling?

My personal observation is it looks ascetically unappealing with all those tags at the base of your forum, but that is just me.

I am trying to start a new site and really am bent to know end to get of off the ground and search able. So I am really wondering if this is simple "Snake Oil" No offense is intended

www.gotrackday.com

I think "snake oil" is a bit harsh. But it does help some with crawling, depending on your setup and how well indexed you already are.... and for some like Loco it does not. Just like any option regarding SEO improvements, it's not one size fits all or a guaranteed traffic boom and love fest with Google (many who use vBSEO can attest to that) but for many it does help some or else we wouldn't have the number of installs we do have. I personally can't say whether or not it would be for you, but if you desire it just for SEO purposes and dislike many aspects of it, it might not be the best solution for you. While SEO is a component it is not the sole component as thread tagging is also really geared at connecting threads for users with the whole web 2.0 search concept in mind.

- Reid

JWL 02-12-2008 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loco.M (Post 1441675)
when I had zoints tags installed all it did was add tons of duplicate content in the search engine results :(
I got little to zero traffic from the zoints network.

Thanks so much for the answer, :up: I figured as much :o

Unfortunatly, there is so much out there to give your the "IMPRESSION" of such claims, I have determined that it is indeed, it is not something I will invest any time or money in. I have seen some time determined results with as you satated Zero Traffic.

Strike3ForumsMH
I make no apology for the use of snake oil, i stated very clearly "No offense is intended" I totally understand how you may take that as an attack, but that is not my issue. My issue is the question I posed, does it work? I appreciate your candid reply and hope the best with your efforts on the product and the best of luck to who ever buys the product.

Mark.B 02-12-2008 10:29 PM

If you're looking for tons of traffic from the Zoints network, in my experience that simply doesn't happen. I don't think Zoints is big enough yet.

If you are not currently very well indexed, then the tags can certainly help. They also provide a potentially more efficient means of searching the forums, depending on how well you use them.

I have stuck with them into 3.7, despite 3.7 having a built in tags system, because this one has the ability to auto-tag threads based on the thread titles....vital if, like me, you have members who would probably never tag their own threads.

JWL 02-12-2008 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 1441812)
If you're looking for tons of traffic from the Zoints network, in my experience that simply doesn't happen. I don't think Zoints is big enough yet.

If you are not currently very well indexed, then the tags can certainly help. They also provide a potentially more efficient means of searching the forums, depending on how well you use them.

I have stuck with them into 3.7, despite 3.7 having a built in tags system, because this one has the ability to auto-tag threads based on the thread titles....vital if, like me, you have members who would probably never tag their own threads.

This site is brand new, I have others that have faired well, This is the one I believ will be a contender. I have site mapped it, started pushing it and linking it, adding content and as stated just started.

The good old fashion way is content, content and more content, along with word of mouth and making it know at aother sites.

I do not believe for one moment that any one peice is the golden egg. Zoints can be a good thing, so can vbseo, I am just not convinced yet. I went as far as spednign the $300 with yahoo on another site (I guess thats hwy they call it yahoo) yahoo's like me :eek:

It takes time to build a site, time and ultamatly commitment

rinkrat 02-12-2008 11:13 PM

I am getting tons of errors even though I uninstalled this. How can I stop these errors?

THanks


Invalid SQL:



SELECT * FROM zoints_tag WHERE threadid = 73194 ORDER BY tag;



MySQL Error : Table 'vb.zoints_tag' doesn't exist

Error Number : 1146

Date : Tuesday, February 12th 2008 @ 05:01:25 PM

Script : http://www.letsgokings.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=73194

Referrer : http://www.letsgokings.com/bbs/index.php

IP Address :

Username :

Classname : vb_database

MySQL Version : 4.1.20

================================================== =

Strike3ForumsMH 02-12-2008 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWL (Post 1441805)
Thanks so much for the answer, :up: I figured as much :o

Unfortunatly, there is so much out there to give your the "IMPRESSION" of such claims, I have determined that it is indeed, it is not something I will invest any time or money in. I have seen some time determined results with as you satated Zero Traffic.

Strike3ForumsMH
I make no apology for the use of snake oil, i stated very clearly "No offense is intended" I totally understand how you may take that as an attack, but that is not my issue. My issue is the question I posed, does it work? I appreciate your candid reply and hope the best with your efforts on the product and the best of luck to who ever buys the product.

I know you meant no offense by it, but I stated my opinions regarding the comment as it is a free product that a lot of us believe in so I can't help but feel a little bias. Thanks the well wishes though, I wish nothing the best with the start of your new forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark.B (Post 1441812)
If you're looking for tons of traffic from the Zoints network, in my experience that simply doesn't happen. I don't think Zoints is big enough yet.

If you are not currently very well indexed, then the tags can certainly help. They also provide a potentially more efficient means of searching the forums, depending on how well you use them.

I have stuck with them into 3.7, despite 3.7 having a built in tags system, because this one has the ability to auto-tag threads based on the thread titles....vital if, like me, you have members who would probably never tag their own threads.

Mark makes some good points here. The traffic from Zoints.com will certainly vary, due to the size of the network itself and the popularity of the tags you have (for instance for my baseball forum, traffic rose in October from Zoints.com.) And tags are a really great way for members to search, if the forum threads are consistently and appropriately tagged of course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWL (Post 1441813)
This site is brand new, I have others that have faired well, This is the one I believ will be a contender. I have site mapped it, started pushing it and linking it, adding content and as stated just started.

The good old fashion way is content, content and more content, along with word of mouth and making it know at aother sites.

I do not believe for one moment that any one peice is the golden egg. Zoints can be a good thing, so can vbseo, I am just not convinced yet. I went as far as spednign the $300 with yahoo on another site (I guess thats hwy they call it yahoo) yahoo's like me :eek:

It takes time to build a site, time and ultamatly commitment

Yep, Zoints Thread Tags is certainly not the golden egg but for some it can help with SEO purposes and for all it can help with internal site search for the members. Whether you use Thread Tags or not, I hope you find a solution that is right for your forums JWL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rinkrat (Post 1441831)
I am getting tons of errors even though I uninstalled this. How can I stop these errors?

THanks


Invalid SQL:



SELECT * FROM zoints_tag WHERE threadid = 73194 ORDER BY tag;



MySQL Error : Table 'vb.zoints_tag' doesn't exist

Error Number : 1146

Date : Tuesday, February 12th 2008 @ 05:01:25 PM

Script : http://www.letsgokings.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=73194

Referrer : http://www.letsgokings.com/bbs/index.php

IP Address :

Username :

Classname : vb_database

MySQL Version : 4.1.20

================================================== =

I am a bit spaced right now due to too many exams and too much work, so I can't recall if there is a specific fix for that error number but if memory serves me right.... I believe those are due to the tags system still being indexed with search engines and those engines following up on now dead links.

- Reid

jeddahbikers 02-16-2008 12:10 PM

It was a great idea on 2006 , but for now i rather update to vB3.7

Thanks anyway,

yingzhou 02-16-2008 02:11 PM

this mod Character Replacements is not support "á à ả ã ạ" character? I cant convert those to "a"

Strike3ForumsMH 02-17-2008 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeddahbikers (Post 1444396)
It was a great idea on 2006 , but for now i rather update to vB3.7

Thanks anyway,

We did put out a security fix, still support the product and have plans for it's future so it's not a dead idea, but to each their own. You can continue using tags on vB 3.70 over their now included take on tags, but if you prefer to go with what comes with it I hope it meets your expectations jeddah.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yingzhou (Post 1444447)
this mod Character Replacements is not support "? ? ả ? ạ" character? I cant convert those to "a"

Could you please open a ticket so we can take a peak?

http://zoints.com/support.z

Thanks ying.

- Reid

GuaRRand 02-20-2008 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strike3ForumsMH (Post 1436661)
Hi there GuarRRand,

I can help you out, no problem. Let me know what step you are having trouble on or any specific things that confused you that I might be able to clarify.

- Reid

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuaRRand (Post 1436675)
Ok thanks alot.
I'm gonna give it a shot tomorrow evening. if i run into anything and dont knock myself out, i'll let you know.

Ok, with a bit of a delay, i installed it.

I got a question (which might already been answered, but its alot to read int his topic, so here goes)

1. when i enable the product, instead of the tags at the bottom of pages, i get my navbar, imagethumbnails (from photoplog) and such.
(see attached image)

If you could help me with this prob, i think it'll work fine.

thanks


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