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rknight111 12-01-2008 11:51 AM

Is there a way to completely flush all the info out of the shoutbox and start from scratch.

jerx 12-01-2008 11:57 AM

Do you have so many shouts? I would set the "Number of days before automatic chats removal" to 1. Then you will only have messages from the last day. You probably need to wait one day until the shouts are deleted. The rest can be deleted manually by going into the archive.

VBDev 12-01-2008 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1676331)
The "Add Template Name in HTML Comments" is set to no. I have turned it on, but then the shoutbox will even be empty on iso encoding. Therefore I turned it off again.

With current version you must not activate that option ! It is corrected in next version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rknight111 (Post 1676396)
Is there a way to completely flush all the info out of the shoutbox and start from scratch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1676401)
Do you have so many shouts? I would set the "Number of days before automatic chats removal" to 1. Then you will only have messages from the last day. You probably need to wait one day until the shouts are deleted. The rest can be deleted manually by going into the archive.

Yes you can export chats from the archive and remove all chats either in the archives with the tick boxes or using the del command "/del all" (activate it before).

zstewart 12-02-2008 03:31 PM

Has the double chat posting been fixed? I see it was taken off the fixed list but I have yet heard anything about it.

VBDev 12-02-2008 03:33 PM

I think the next version should fix it yeah :)

Ranger187 12-02-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VBDev (Post 1675317)
After some thoughts and discussions, I am not sure this is really needed.

What would be the need for such feature as soon as the backward compatibility is in the chatbox ?

I'm looking at it from a backup/restore standpoint. I know a lot of users on here don't backup their database (bad practice but lets not go there) and when they do something without reading and wipe it, restoring that would be nice. Provided they didn't bunk their main db to begin with.

Having it as an option to just export and being able to restore it puts a lot at ease as the main discussions are right in the chat.

thedark1 12-02-2008 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedark1 View Post

chatbox timeout is no longer working after i upgraded to 1.1.0. also some of the new database tables weren't created during the upgrade so I had to do them manually. Is the timeout also related to a missing database table?

Hum you mean the inactive function ? I have tested it recently and it does (on the current up-to-be-released version).
nope, the inactive function doesn't work anymore.... were there any database table changes from 0.4 for this setting specifically?

Angel-Wings 12-03-2008 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger187 (Post 1677181)
Having it as an option to just export and being able to restore it puts a lot at ease as the main discussions are right in the chat.

Well - won't you agree that people who don't backup their DB even won't use a backup function, if provided ?
And if they backup their DB, such a backup function isn't needed at all.

Or ?

VBDev 12-03-2008 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger187 (Post 1677181)
I'm looking at it from a backup/restore standpoint. I know a lot of users on here don't backup their database (bad practice but lets not go there) and when they do something without reading and wipe it, restoring that would be nice. Provided they didn't bunk their main db to begin with.

Having it as an option to just export and being able to restore it puts a lot at ease as the main discussions are right in the chat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel-Wings (Post 1677537)
Well - won't you agree that people who don't backup their DB even won't use a backup function, if provided ?
And if they backup their DB, such a backup function isn't needed at all.

Or ?

Yes that's the thing ! I don't see the need in backuping the chat table if users save their database.

I am not supposed to make admin jobs :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedark1 (Post 1677404)
nope, the inactive function doesn't work anymore.... were there any database table changes from 0.4 for this setting specifically?

How have you upgraded from 0.4 to 1.1.0 ??

jerx 12-03-2008 07:56 AM

I don' t see any need for a backup feature, too. It is just a chat, where you talk about unimportant subjects. Loosing that would not do any harm.

And as already been said, everyone who care about data would backup everything, everyone who does not care, won' t need that feature.

Angel-Wings 12-03-2008 08:43 AM

Hmm - related to the smiley retrival problem - dunno but it works fine until I set up more than 1 category - then both categories get mixed.

Modifying the mgc_cb_evo.php file and the SQL statement:

Quote:

$getsmilies = $vbulletin->db->query_read ("SELECT * FROM " . TABLE_PREFIX . "smilie ORDER BY displayorder ASC");
Quote:

$getsmilies = $vbulletin->db->query_read ("SELECT * FROM " . TABLE_PREFIX . "smilie ORDER BY imagecategoryid, displayorder ASC");
Would display the smilies, sorted by category. Still sorting the categories like set, dunno - seems there's an additional query needed to read from the "imagecategory" table the imagetype and the ID's :(

VBDev 12-03-2008 10:11 AM

I think I already modified the sql query some time ago so that it takes into account the category.

I will have a look.

By the way, Next version will embed importers from most of the chatbox mods that exists :)

thedark1 12-03-2008 07:08 PM

Quote:

How have you upgraded from 0.4 to 1.1.0 ??
uninstalled, then re-installed (just like a fresh install). I noticed though that some database tables were not created .... even tried to uninstall then install again 1.1.0 ... same problem, so finally i just had to create them manually. I still think this is very weird though, and i noticed that a couple of other people had similar issues.

If you have the time i can pm you my board cp to have a look around.

thanks

update: ok now this is really weird .... i just installed xcache, edited config.php so that the datastore would also use xcache, and now the inactive function works again .... i don't get it, this is really strange ...

damienlyter 12-03-2008 09:48 PM

I'm not able to use Chanel images not sure why it's not displaying it as I did what was described in the admin CP I see in firefox the word that I typed for the name of the channel in IE i see a box with a red X can you please tell me what to do to correct this issue?

lostguy 12-04-2008 01:25 AM

This work with Vb3.7.4 ?

Greenskull 12-04-2008 05:06 AM

I've been trying forever to get it to work in Arcade and it just won't show. I've done everything I was told. What could be wrong.

jerx 12-04-2008 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostguy (Post 1678181)
This work with Vb3.7.4 ?

I used it on vb 3.7.3 and now using it on vb 3.8 rc1 without any problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskull (Post 1678259)
I've been trying forever to get it to work in Arcade and it just won't show. I've done everything I was told. What could be wrong.

I don' t think vbdev is a psychic. You should post what "everything" means. I think you had problems displaying it on vbadvanced, are those solved?

VBDev 12-04-2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedark1 (Post 1677959)
uninstalled, then re-installed (just like a fresh install). I noticed though that some database tables were not created .... even tried to uninstall then install again 1.1.0 ... same problem, so finally i just had to create them manually. I still think this is very weird though, and i noticed that a couple of other people had similar issues.

If you have the time i can pm you my board cp to have a look around.

thanks

update: ok now this is really weird .... i just installed xcache, edited config.php so that the datastore would also use xcache, and now the inactive function works again .... i don't get it, this is really strange ...

Yes clearly ! Perhaps it was a cache problem and installing the new version fixed that :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1678282)
I don' t think vbdev is a psychic. You should post what "everything" means. I think you had problems displaying it on vbadvanced, are those solved?

Lol yes I am clearly not a psychic !

RedDevil 12-04-2008 02:25 PM

I updated shoutbox to 1.1.0 and i have same arcade problem wouldnt work no matter what i tried, I have downgraded again to 1.0.0 and all is working fine arcade included, is there a known fix for this yet?

Running 3.7.4 VB

Deimos 12-04-2008 02:26 PM

I'm running the latest version of VB, have installed the latest version of this chatbox and several things don't work properly.

When I click on the manage commands link, there's 7 entries, but they're all blank
If I try to edit them, I get a missing table error
I added the table manually, but it still doesn't show anything, I assume because the table is empty

Clicking manage channels brings up

Invalid SQL:

SELECT ch.*,co.syntax,co.title AS cotitle
FROM mgc_cb_evo_channel AS ch
LEFT JOIN mgc_cb_evo_command AS co ON (ch.cid=co.cid)
ORDER BY chanorder ASC;

MySQL Error : Unknown column 'co.syntax' in 'field list'

I had an issue whereby a stickied chat message dissapeared, so I Wanted to find out who'd deleted it, but, the "View logs" page brings up a blank page and the log table is empty.

thedark1 12-04-2008 03:31 PM

Quote:

Yes clearly ! Perhaps it was a cache problem and installing the new version fixed that
um....nope.... i didn't have any sort of caching at all previously, and 0.4 was working .... i installed a fresh version of xcache (not an upgrade to anything).
I don't think this has anything to do with caching though, i think it has more to do with the datastore options in config.php .... i was using filecache before, so maybe that's what the problem was.

zelnik 12-04-2008 05:43 PM

Hi, Been using this great chatbox for a while now..

But I'm hoping to be able to move it to a different location..

In a perfect scenario I would like it on the menu but also open in its own window and with none of the vB menus above it like when you use : mgc_cb_evo.php?do=view_chatbox

is this possible?

Greenskull 12-04-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1678282)
I used it on vb 3.7.3 and now using it on vb 3.8 rc1 without any problem.



I don' t think vbdev is a psychic. You should post what "everything" means. I think you had problems displaying it on vbadvanced, are those solved?

neither is solved. For the Arcade thing I did exactly as instructed. Still doesn't show

Ranger187 12-04-2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel-Wings (Post 1677537)
Well - won't you agree that people who don't backup their DB even won't use a backup function, if provided ?
And if they backup their DB, such a backup function isn't needed at all.

Or ?

What I do, and what others do is an assumption. Does everyone use smilies in this chat? No, Does everyone use the PM function? No. But having it as an option is not a drawback in any form. Why? I see things differently. ;) 1 being say a full backup of a database is 100+ megs. You tell me you've never had a large dB timeout exporting, importing etc. Would you rather export / import a 1 meg file, or 100 meg file? Whether the people do their admin functions is not my concern. Having a useful function is. This to me is. Let me know when you use shared hosting, and you have to have THEM do the import because you can't due to limitations etc. There is a reason for this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1677619)
I don' t see any need for a backup feature, too. It is just a chat, where you talk about unimportant subjects. Loosing that would not do any harm.

And as already been said, everyone who care about data would backup everything, everyone who does not care, won' t need that feature.

Data loss to you is not any harm? That's what your reply implies. I know it's a chat, but I've also heard this god knows how many times... "I had something in the chat I needed." We all have done it. Just like you wipe your home computer, without fully ghosting it or backing up, thinking you pulled everything when OH CRAP..... That 1 file you didn't grab is gone. That's my only critical factor.

Ask yourself this, which is worse? Never being able to reproduce data, or being able to. If you lost 1 crucial document or the like, you will understand my reason. Other then that. Fdisk. ;)

jerx 12-05-2008 02:25 AM

I think sounds for new chatbox messages have been declined, haven' t they? I did not miss this feature before, but after I have seen someone asking another user for msn (because there you have alerts for incoming messages), I changed my mind. And to be honest I sometimes miss that feature, too.

I think it will help keeping the chatbox active. There are times, when there is no activity at all. But I know that some users just wait for other users to chat to. Those users often reply shortly after someone else posted a chat. Although I doubt that they are permanently active on my site, I think they have it open in a browser tab and check it every few minutes.

Of course the majority of users will not monitor the chatbox and will leave the site if they don' t get an anser quickly. These won' t need the sound, but the sound would help turning some of these users into regular chatbox users. Why? Because the sound gives the chabox "monitors" the chance to reply instantly instead of with a delay of some minutes.

Therefore I ask for sound for incoming chatbox messages. Users should be able to turn sound off and a profile setting would be good, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskull (Post 1678697)
neither is solved. For the Arcade thing I did exactly as instructed. Still doesn't show

If you haven' t even solved the vbadvanced issue, you should not even think about integrating it somewhere else. There is a vbadvanced module and although it is made for an older chatbox version, it should work without any problem with the newest version. I have succesfully integrated the chatbox into vbadvanced and I think many others, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger187 (Post 1678714)
Data loss to you is not any harm? That's what your reply implies. I know it's a chat, but I've also heard this god knows how many times... "I had something in the chat I needed." We all have done it. Just like you wipe your home computer, without fully ghosting it or backing up, thinking you pulled everything when OH CRAP..... That 1 file you didn't grab is gone. That's my only critical factor.

Ask yourself this, which is worse? Never being able to reproduce data, or being able to. If you lost 1 crucial document or the like, you will understand my reason. Other then that. Fdisk. ;)

In my opinion no mod should have its own backup option. What is it worth beeing able to restore the mod data, if you cannot restore your forum? Therefore everyone who cares about his data should do a full backup.

It does not matter if you are on shared hosting or how long a full backup takes. It is mandatory to do so. If your hosting package cannot handle it, you might need to move to a bigger package anyway.

For me it is just a chat box. Of course there will be valuable information from time to time, but it is still no reason to backup the messages. Most of the time it is just small talk without any deeper meaning or any importance. But this might be different for other sites. If a company misuses it as a conference room, the situation completely changes.

In my opinion there are other things to do first before developing a backup feature. Anyways, this is not up to me. I am not the developer. vbdev must decide whether he wants to invest his time to code that feature.

Ranger187 12-05-2008 02:41 AM

The backup/restore is easy. I've done it many times for the chatbox. It's 2 tables I think. But then again I know what I'm doing and how to do it. You have to realize a lot of people learn from their mistakes.

I doubt the sound option will be added, but he can now add it as a plugin/option if he wants with the new re-write.

VBDev 12-05-2008 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1678800)
In my opinion there are other things to do first before developing a backup feature. Anyways, this is not up to me. I am not the developer. vbdev must decide whether he wants to invest his time to code that feature.

lol Yep lots of my free time :D

Anyway you know the sound thing would in fact that hard to implement. Lots more easy than making a backup tool ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger187 (Post 1678809)
The backup/restore is easy. I've done it many times for the chatbox. It's 2 tables I think. But then again I know what I'm doing and how to do it. You have to realize a lot of people learn from their mistakes.

I doubt the sound option will be added, but he can now add it as a plugin/option if he wants with the new re-write.

The problem with the backup is that exporting to a file would make a hugeeeeee file for somes forums. But exporting is not a problem, it's already done through the export feature in the archives.

However the import is what's causing problems coz of php timeout.

What I can say is that no I won't do it right now ! But why not in the future. It will depends of how the chatbox evolves, how I want to implement things and so on.

You know I develop the chatbox kinda only for fun but takes a huge amount aof time ! I don't own a forum at all, vB coding is just "a game" for me.

LCN2007 12-05-2008 02:26 PM

Anyone else have this error? It send me a error about evey 10 mins if the chat is activly being used.

Code:

Database error in vBulletin 3.7.2:

Invalid SQL:

        SELECT DISTINCT u.username,u.displaygroupid,u.userid,s.userid AS suserid,u.usergroupid
                      (u.options & 512) AS invisible
        FROM mgc_cb_evo_session AS cbs
        LEFT JOIN user AS u ON (cbs.userid=u.userid)
        LEFT JOIN session AS s ON (cbs.userid=s.userid)
        WHERE cbs.dateline>='1228493779' AND cbs.userid!=0;

MySQL Error  : FUNCTION u.usergroupid does not exist
Error Number  : 1305
Request Date  : Friday, December 5th 2008 @ 10:19:19 AM
Error Date    : Friday, December 5th 2008 @ 10:19:19 AM
Script        : http://www.sitename.net/forum/mgc_cb_evo_ajax.php
Referrer      : http://www.sitename.net/forum/index.php
IP Address    : 70.164.246.238
Username      : UserName
Classname    : vB_Database
MySQL Version : 5.0.51a-community


VBDev 12-05-2008 06:06 PM

Fix here : https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=2760

LCN2007 12-05-2008 06:23 PM

Thank you sir much appreciated im sure it was in this thread but after reading a ton of pages i just had to ask. I will apply the fix tonight when i get home.

Great chat thanks for your hard work.

zelnik 12-05-2008 08:35 PM

Hi vBDEV,

Could you take a look at this please?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=3182

Unfortunately the chatbox has been so successful that it has taken away a lot of posting to the forum so I'm going to have to move it elsewhere to somewhere more out of the way and also if it opens a new window then people can chat and check the forum at the same time.

Thanks for your time.

VBDev 12-05-2008 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelnik (Post 1679278)
Hi vBDEV,

Could you take a look at this please?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=3182

Unfortunately the chatbox has been so successful that it has taken away a lot of posting to the forum so I'm going to have to move it elsewhere to somewhere more out of the way and also if it opens a new window then people can chat and check the forum at the same time.

Thanks for your time.

I don't understand what you mean in the first post. You try do add the chatbox in a menu to make it open in the view_chatbox full page ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCN2007 (Post 1679209)
Thank you sir much appreciated im sure it was in this thread but after reading a ton of pages i just had to ask. I will apply the fix tonight when i get home.

Great chat thanks for your hard work.

I can understand, this thread is getting far too big for users to not get lost ...

Anyway I'll soon be launching a forum with a partner for the chatbox and my other (non free mods), I hope it'll help support to get easier than here in that single huge thread.

VBDev 12-05-2008 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel-Wings (Post 1677647)
Hmm - related to the smiley retrival problem - dunno but it works fine until I set up more than 1 category - then both categories get mixed.

Modifying the mgc_cb_evo.php file and the SQL statement:

Would display the smilies, sorted by category. Still sorting the categories like set, dunno - seems there's an additional query needed to read from the "imagecategory" table the imagetype and the ID's :(

Here is a fix that should work :
PHP Code:

            $smilies $vbulletin->db->query_read("
              SELECT s.smilieid, s.smilietext, s.smiliepath, s.title
              FROM " 
TABLE_PREFIX "smilie AS s
              LEFT JOIN " 
TABLE_PREFIX "imagecategory AS cat ON (s.imagecategoryid=cat.imagecategoryid)
              ORDER BY cat.displayorder ASC,s.displayorder ASC
              LIMIT " 
$vbulletin->options['mgc_cb_evo_editor_nbsmileys']
                                                  ); 

Please can you try ?

zelnik 12-06-2008 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VBDev (Post 1679335)
I don't understand what you mean in the first post. You try do add the chatbox in a menu to make it open in the view_chatbox full page ?.

Sorry VBDev I know how busy you are.

Basically what I want to do is have your chatbox load from selecting it in the quick links menu.

But when it loads I want it to open in full display mode but in its own window and without the vB menus or anything like that..

So pretty much click a link and chatbox alone loads with nothing else in its own window.

Hope I'm being more clear now?

Thanks, much appreciated.

VBDev 12-06-2008 09:15 PM

Oh yes I see what you mean.

That's a too custom sorry I won't do it in a default release. I could do it for you but as a custom work.

Greenskull 12-07-2008 04:55 AM

screw it, I can't get it o work on vbadvanced, which I can live with, but I NEEEEEEEED it to appear in the Arcade, which it still doesn't. Please someone help.

Ranger187 12-07-2008 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenskull (Post 1680052)
screw it, I can't get it o work on vbadvanced, which I can live with, but I NEEEEEEEED it to appear in the Arcade, which it still doesn't. Please someone help.

Green, I can help you troubleshoot it later today (Sunday). I just got my daughter to goto bed finally and I am too. Anytime after 5pm I'm free.

If you could make me a temp account with admin rights or enough to view templates and a ftp account I can help ya out. Just pm me the info. I'll be around on yahoo/aim as well then.

I think Noobsalad or another forum I run had this issue and it had to do with Vbadcanced and something else. We can probably get it working on the vbanced part too.....

I'm audi for now. I'll be back later in the day.

Greenskull 12-07-2008 05:51 AM

got it, sent you a pm

Suenee 12-07-2008 06:07 AM

I uninstalled this product. I removed the files from my directory and uninstalled the MGC Chatbox Evo product via the uninstall code, per the instructions in the read me file. It is still showing in my usergroups therefore I can not update any usergroups. How do I get this out of the user groups.

Ranger187 12-07-2008 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suenee (Post 1680065)
I uninstalled this product. I removed the files from my directory and uninstalled the MGC Chatbox Evo product via the uninstall code, per the instructions in the read me file. It is still showing in my usergroups therefore I can not update any usergroups. How do I get this out of the user groups.

You forgot an xml file or something. Or it was from an upgrade and one set remains. I can look tomorrow too. Just read a few posts up my reply to green....

Green, replying, they head to pillow.


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