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Pulsorock 11-17-2006 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1119174)
Sure.

Great!

I will take this weekend to upgrade vB to the latest release and will install Zoints Local. Hopefully by Saturday/Sunday 1.0 Gold is released, right? ;)

Zoints 11-17-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rrr
Thanks (that's a neat way of pricing it :))!

Thanks. It was the fairest way we could think of implementing it. Why should the little guy always get screwed, right?

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Originally Posted by rrr
So just so I'm crystal clear: with the autonomous license and the branding free license, it would be totally separate from any zoints.com references and the social network would stay within the forum?

Correct.

amnesia623 11-17-2006 01:04 PM

For the autonomous version, can there be a zoints version that would follow the style set by the forum owner. I like zoints and what it offers, but to put 120 bucks out for a product that doesn't follow my style settings (page width, etc...) is a little discouraging.

Please don't mistake this as being a negative post because it isn't. I think zoints is a great addition to forums in need of a bigger, better networking system.

Can I control the page width and bring in my navbar into zoints now?

Pulsorock 11-17-2006 03:24 PM

Is there a way that I can set the Admin account to be default on everyones network? Like Tom is on everyones MySpace profile? hahaha :o

Harley77 11-17-2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by amnesia623 (Post 1119329)
For the autonomous version, can there be a zoints version that would follow the style set by the forum owner. I like zoints and what it offers, but to put 120 bucks out for a product that doesn't follow my style settings (page width, etc...) is a little discouraging.

Please don't mistake this as being a negative post because it isn't. I think zoints is a great addition to forums in need of a bigger, better networking system.

Can I control the page width and bring in my navbar into zoints now?


Zoints doesn't seem to grab the vars that are in VB with the exception of user data. Considering the level of complexity and customization ability in zoints, I don't think its even feasible to pull across header or navbar code. Zoints doesn't seem to have been designed to intertwine with VB, but act as a separate entity with various connection points.

You best bet is to take your header and footer code, work out all the VB vars and make it work as a standalone page, then paste it into the Header and Footer boxes in the Zoints Admin page.

Zoints 11-17-2006 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pulsorock
Hopefully by Saturday/Sunday 1.0 Gold is released, right? ;)

That's our hope. :)

Zoints 11-17-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pulsorock (Post 1119377)
Is there a way that I can set the Admin account to be default on everyones network? Like Tom is on everyones MySpace profile? hahaha :o

Not yet, but we'll add that into a later build. Tom is going to have nothing on you, my friend ;)

Zoints 11-17-2006 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Harley77 (Post 1119512)
Zoints doesn't seem to grab the vars that are in VB with the exception of user data. Considering the level of complexity and customization ability in zoints, I don't think its even feasible to pull across header or navbar code. Zoints doesn't seem to have been designed to intertwine with VB, but act as a separate entity with various connection points.

You best bet is to take your header and footer code, work out all the VB vars and make it work as a standalone page, then paste it into the Header and Footer boxes in the Zoints Admin page.

You are correct.

But in subsequent releases of Zoints Local, we will provide MUCH more functionality and intertwining with boardware. We're nearing release of 1.0 and we already pack all kinds of cool stuff into this system. Just think what it'll be like by 1.2 or 1.5 as we work to make the lives of admin and members that much easier :cool:

Neutral Singh 11-17-2006 11:34 PM

You are my heroes: to all Zoints dev Team!!

Pulsorock 11-18-2006 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1119643)
That's our hope. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1119644)
Not yet, but we'll add that into a later build. Tom is going to have nothing on you, my friend ;)

Wohooooooooooooo

You guys Rock!

;)

Pulsorock 11-18-2006 06:46 AM

I was testing the Zoints Local demo and noticed that I cannot see what is displayed on this screenshot on the description of the app.

Quote:

Social Networking - Forget just friends, Zoints Local allows your members to create as many "Groups" as they want. We all have friends, family, colleagues, forum friends, and various other people in our lives.


I did not saw the "Invite Your Friends" in the Zonits Local demo, but I did saw it on the centralized Zoints. Is this option available on the Zoints Local also?

Zoints 11-18-2006 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pulsorock (Post 1119914)
I did not saw the "Invite Your Friends" in the Zonits Local demo, but I did saw it on the centralized Zoints. Is this option available on the Zoints Local also?

We ended up having to cut that out because it was a 3rd party app we purchased and couldn't strike a distribution deal with the owner. If anyone has a good, usable invite script, please let us know and we'll integrate it.

Zoints 11-18-2006 06:53 AM

We're working on the gold build right now. I thought I'd let you guys know about a few enhancements that will be seen:

1. Forum avatars will be used. No more having two sets of avatars.

2. The entire default profile is being pulled and will be displayable in its own page. Think: My Homepage | My Profile | My vB Profile | Blog | ... That way all functionality there will still be easily accessible.

3. Much better control over pages. As a forum owner you will be able to lock pages on a page by page basis from editing.

4. Control over how much disk space each member gets.

Pulsorock 11-18-2006 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1119916)
We ended up having to cut that out because it was a 3rd party app we purchased and couldn't strike a distribution deal with the owner. If anyone has a good, usable invite script, please let us know and we'll integrate it.

ohhh... :(
Too bad... it looked pretty good. Hopefully there's other that can be used. :)

Pulsorock 11-18-2006 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1119917)
We're working on the gold build right now. I thought I'd let you guys know about a few enhancements that will be seen:

1. Forum avatars will be used. No more having two sets of avatars.

2. The entire default profile is being pulled and will be displayable in its own page. Think: My Homepage | My Profile | My vB Profile | Blog | ... That way all functionality there will still be easily accessible.

3. Much better control over pages. As a forum owner you will be able to lock pages on a page by page basis from editing.

4. Control over how much disk space each member gets.

great! that's awesome.... can't wait to install it. :D

pokerie 11-18-2006 08:57 AM

Will these new features be available in both the version for 120 and this free local one? So basically, you could test it out on the free local one and if you're happy with it and want to remove all the nav bars and connections with zoints, you can pay 120 and you wont lose any functionality etc?

vprp 11-18-2006 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1119644)
Not yet, but we'll add that into a later build. Tom is going to have nothing on you, my friend ;)

I requested the Admin being everyone's friend feature on the Zoints forum but I have to add something to the request. Instead of having the admin default to this, I think we should be given the opportunity to input the userid of someone(s) to designate in this position. For example, a forum might have multiple admins but only one would utilize this or a forum admin might want to designate someone else for this.

Zoints 11-18-2006 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerie (Post 1119945)
Will these new features be available in both the version for 120 and this free local one? So basically, you could test it out on the free local one and if you're happy with it and want to remove all the nav bars and connections with zoints, you can pay 120 and you wont lose any functionality etc?

All features are the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vprp (Post 1120143)
I requested the Admin being everyone's friend feature on the Zoints forum but I have to add something to the request. Instead of having the admin default to this, I think we should be given the opportunity to input the userid of someone(s) to designate in this position. For example, a forum might have multiple admins but only one would utilize this or a forum admin might want to designate someone else for this.

Agreed. That's how we'd do it.

gothicuser 11-19-2006 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1119917)
We're working on the gold build right now. I thought I'd let you guys know about a few enhancements that will be seen:

1. Forum avatars will be used. No more having two sets of avatars.

2. The entire default profile is being pulled and will be displayable in its own page. Think: My Homepage | My Profile | My vB Profile | Blog | ... That way all functionality there will still be easily accessible.

3. Much better control over pages. As a forum owner you will be able to lock pages on a page by page basis from editing.

4. Control over how much disk space each member gets.

I don't see mention for an option to store files (images) in database for 'safe-mode=on' admins.
Any plans to incorporate this by gold please?

Because I have had to manually create the folders and then CHMOD them I have had to limit the number of members using it (no intention of sitting for many hours recreating the convoluted directory system needed :( ).

Zoints 11-19-2006 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gothicuser (Post 1120485)
I don't see mention for an option to store files (images) in database for 'safe-mode=on' admins.
Any plans to incorporate this by gold please?

Because I have had to manually create the folders and then CHMOD them I have had to limit the number of members using it (no intention of sitting for many hours recreating the convoluted directory system needed :( ).

Hi Tony,

We don't have support for safe mode at this time and it's not going to make it into gold, sorry. It'll be built into a later release. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Zoints 11-19-2006 06:18 AM

We're going to delay gold for a couple days to resolve the two major complaints community owners have at this time:

1. The navbar/header/footer will be able to automatically be added.

2. We're going to rework the "Communities" link in the header. Instead of pointing to http://zoints.com/communities, we are instead going to create a system where forum owners can network with each other. "Subnetworks". For example, if you own an auto detailing forum, it would be in your interest to network with a honda and a toyota forum that don't have auto detailing subforums. Then, when you or your members click on the Communities link, instead of being taken to Zoints, a dropdown appears with links to those communities you are networked with. Yes, if you're a forum owner with 5 forums, you can network with yourself.

Thank you for your continued feedback so that we can improve Zoints Local. It is greatly appreciated :)

gothicuser 11-19-2006 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1120553)
Hi Tony,

We don't have support for safe mode at this time and it's not going to make it into gold, sorry. It'll be built into a later release. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Many thanks for the reply, it is still useable, but holy Mother, what a pain when I do one of my 'total' forum backups https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

FFW 11-19-2006 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1120555)
1. The navbar/header/footer will be able to automatically be added.

Great news :) That would be my only real complaint with this so far. Nice to see it being rectified.

Zoints 11-19-2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gothicuser (Post 1120580)
Many thanks for the reply, it is still useable, but holy Mother, what a pain when I do one of my 'total' forum backups.

Can you please elaborate on what the issue is when you do that? Thanks.

mustangchris 11-19-2006 11:49 PM

I installed this on my forum...and it replaced the normal Profile for users? How do I get the standard profile back on VB 3.6.3?

Zoints 11-20-2006 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mustangchris (Post 1121183)
I installed this on my forum...and it replaced the normal Profile for users? How do I get the standard profile back on VB 3.6.3?

Our next version will allow for that automatically. The current version does not make them accessible. You may want to turn off the admincp > vbulletin options > zoints profile options until the next version is ready if it is bothering your members (sorry for the wait).

Zoints 11-20-2006 02:02 AM

I thought I'd give a quick update on the progress we're making with automatically pulling the header and footer. As to be honest I'm rather excited because it makes everything look much cleaner when going from forum to profile. The below screenshots are from a page where everything is at a static 800 pixel width (thus the 2nd row of pages).

Profile header:
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress1.png



Forum header
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress2.png



Profile footer:
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress4.png



Forum footer:
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress3.png

We still have some work to do to get the navbar working as desired. And because of this new code, you're able to now set fixed widths via the vbulletin style options. But that breaks a few things with our style editor so we need to figure that out. Overall, progress has been fantastic though. And it's all thanks to the feedback you folks have provided. :cool:


*edit* Updated screenshots with the navbar:

Profile
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/


Forum
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

lsatblu 11-20-2006 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1120555)
We're going to delay gold for a couple days to resolve the two major complaints community owners have at this time.

Will the QA Team be receiving a copy soon for testing? Sorry, I'm anxious. :)

gothicuser 11-20-2006 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1121066)
Can you please elaborate on what the issue is when you do that? Thanks.

:) not an issue, more me being old fashioned lol
I do have automatic backups enabled and yes they are quite satisfactory, but I still like to manually download my site once a week to keep a 'hard copy' so to speak, and all those embedded directories in the user folder just seem to double the time this all takes.
Am really looking forward to the update. Thanks.

pokerie 11-20-2006 08:11 AM

One thing I don't think that's been answered, if I get the paid version for $120, can I make the URLs www.sitename.com/username instead of www.sitename.com/z/username (removing the z) ? This would be a big plus.

Ascor 11-20-2006 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1118436)
Some people have asked this: for those who do NOT want to be interconnected with other forums, we DO provide an "Autonomy License". PM dchapman (me) on http://network.zoints.com/ for details. But this is the FREE version of this modification

olala this is a very big new's :cool:
I was waiting the new release of phpfox begin 2007 but now i must reconsiderin a lot of think.
Thank you for finaly give people what people want, and the best is that the price is not to heavy :cool:

kewl1uk 11-20-2006 10:14 AM

Already installed yesterday from the download from the Zoints forum but I clicked installed here too. The install was a breeze and my members love it :)

Alfa1 11-20-2006 10:22 AM

Zoints seems very interesting, but one thing that bothers me is that the navbar on my zoints profiles will be completely out of sync with the rest of my site. Is there a work around?

Zoints 11-20-2006 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfa1 (Post 1121420)
Zoints seems very interesting, but one thing that bothers me is that the navbar on my zoints profiles will be completely out of sync with the rest of my site. Is there a work around?

The next build will remedy this. Two screenshots of what we're working on (pay no attention to the different links in the navbar, they will be the same by the time we're done)

Profile
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress5.png


Forum
http://network.zoints.com/images/t/progress6.png


The system will automatically do this. No more cut and paste of code.

mustangchris 11-20-2006 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DChapman (Post 1121249)
Our next version will allow for that automatically. The current version does not make them accessible. You may want to turn off the admincp > vbulletin options > zoints profile options until the next version is ready if it is bothering your members (sorry for the wait).


No worries :) I got it to where at least the admins/mods can see. It was a just general wondering I had :)

dirtycrow 11-20-2006 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionel (Post 1112108)
ok, my community is a foreign community and zoints will not mean anything to them, so I never joined. I understand I need to join to install this hack. How ould I affect my members? Would they know that they also belong to a larger community which is meaningless to them?

i have a similar circumstance. my forum is a private one set up for my fraternity. i rather not have my forums tie to anything outside of it. is that possible?

amnesia623 11-20-2006 07:57 PM

DChapman -

Kudos on bringing in the header, navbar, and footer into zoints. I have to say that this was a huge concern for me, but now, once things get worked out, I will be buying zoints.

I am again excited about this. Thanks!

Abhean 11-20-2006 08:44 PM

Looks like this is going to be a very promising idea. I have put it up and only a few difficulties so far.

pokerie 11-20-2006 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerie (Post 1121376)
One thing I don't think that's been answered, if I get the paid version for $120, can I make the URLs www.sitename.com/username instead of www.sitename.com/z/username (removing the z) ? This would be a big plus.

Would appreciate if you could clear this up DChapman:)

Zoints 11-20-2006 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerie (Post 1121376)
One thing I don't think that's been answered, if I get the paid version for $120, can I make the URLs www.sitename.com/username instead of www.sitename.com/z/username (removing the z) ? This would be a big plus.

Those with autonomous licenses could rename /z/ to /somethingelse/ but removing the subdirectory altogether would cause problems.

With that said, no more questions regarding the autonomous license will be answered here at vBulletin.org. This thread is for the free version of this modification. If you have any questions about the licensing, please take it to http://network.zoints.com

vBulletin.org is for free modifications and we as forum owners and coders need to respect that.

Thanks! :)


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