This is something I can't stand on this site. This guy has the audacity to tell people to read the rules when he himself was provoking a situation and tossing out some name calling yesterday. (Which the thread ended up closed.) THAT is also getting old and I wish something would be done about it.
I TRY to avoid situations where I can but as of late, this site has more kindling for flames than the campsites I visit.

It's in the water... or the air... or something...

Oh, you just had to quote the guy didn't you? Now I can see his text (mental note: need to improve ignore to include quotes). He's just angry because I told him what he could do with his "advice" when he felt a need to sent me a rather nasty PM. What else can one expect when trying to wrestle with the Big Dog?

Seriously, go back and see who was doing the name calling. Guilty of poking angry kittens with sticks, sure, but I am above name calling. It's so much more entertaining to watch people go into meltdown mode without having to resort to calling people, oh, I don't know - dumbasses?

New day, new priorities. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other if people want to throw temper tantrums in an effort to get some attention; in the end it's up to the Admins to sort it all out and figure out the best path going forward. (Which I am sure they will do.)

problem is its vb.org that makes vbulletin what it is.. tbh the software is ok, it could be ALOT better.. but its hacks and the vb.org commuinity which make me some times stay up all night just messing about with me forums.. =-/

if the coders from vb.org go on strike or remove all hacks..

vbulletin will die?..

My suggestion... before you all rush out to create, modify, code, re-program, arrange, calculate, compile, compute, design, draft, edit, process, or whatever you normally want to do to vBorg...

Elect, through registered members' vote, a Board of Advisors. Create Advisory Committee(s) within the Board.

Set up ad hoc committees (for example hack DB deployment) as needed, then disband once the project is completed.

Allocate space on the Board for non-coders, coders, designers and whatever the flavor of names call today. Get a reasonable cross-section of the community.

Allow the Board and the advisory committees to provide a concise and specific feedback to vBorg direction. vBorg should respond why or why not implementing the feedbacks/direction to the whole community.

There is no reason vBorg cannot run herself as thousands of non-profits do.

Add some structure to how things happen at vBorg, and the majority of displeasures will fade.

I appreciate all the coders here and would pay a subscription if I had to, to get the hack info.

Hmmm... I'm not sure I'd want a site to profit from my work without some form of compensation.

vb.org is owned by vb.com. You can't post here or download hacks without a license. You pay $150 for that license, and $30 or so to keep it every year. You already subscribe to this site.

Sorta true. You pay 30$ a year for VB updates not vb.org / vb.com access or right to keep the software.

Sorry, I have to post it:

Its one thing to be a man and admit when you are incorrect, its another to lie. On the board you had to be warned by Floris and your response to my PM telling you to grow up started with "Livewire is a pu$$y". If that isn't name calling, then I don't know what is. Yes, that was a PM. It wasn't on the board. The fact is though, you apparently aren't above name calling so please don't try to put up a facade for the members to believe you are something you are not.

Your a great coder but you have some serious growing up to do bud.



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Are you sure that's true? If I don't pay my $30 I can still download from vb.org? Of course, even if it is, as soon as there is an upgrade and all the hacks start converting I'd be screwed anyway.

Once you are licensed, you are licensed I believe. I don't think you will lose support here so long as you have an owned license.

Come on Kids ... Lets have a Sing Along !

:bunny:

Who has my big red rubberball ?


[high]* Zachariah goes back to his code cave.[/high]

Back to reality - good news Erwin - I hope things will have changed when I return full time in mid June. :)

Not true.

You are licenced for a year, then you have to pay the $30.

You DO lose your vb.org priviledges, I did when my first licence expired.

Not if you have an owned licence.

I did not renew my support when it expired until the next version of vb was released - there was no point.

As far as I know this is only true for the leased license. If you have an owned license your access to the support forums (including vBulletin.org) won't expire. The only thing you do lose, is the ability to download new versions of vBulletin.

The offtopic point still being though - this is already a subscription forum. Now what where we arguing about? ;)

I don't think we're arguing anymore. That was so yesterday.

I could not disagree with that more! And I have no idea why!

Are we having pot luck tonight, Amy? :)

I'll bring the pie.

man this whole thread sounds like a bunch of women at a femist ralley who are going through PMS and just found out their lesbian lovers were really men.

dude you crack me up. :knockedout:

Ooooooo. lesbians.... much better than hot camels....

I agree with you that vB.org modifications is the heartbeat of what makes vBulletin the best. At the moment, the heart is not that healthy.

In any case, the Admins are discussing restructuring staff here to get more people involved especially the coders.

FYI, we are moving ahead with a Paid Mod directory, and discussing the best way forward with the Hack database as well. So things are happening.

That is fantastic news!

Great news. Thank you.

That will make The Geek happy ;)

i just love when I'm sandwiched between too beautiful large breasted lesbian lovers who want to know more about God :confused:

Could be interesting.

I'll be watching how this pans out.

A Paid Mod directory? I agree with everything that you said, peterska2. :)

Thank you - I see communication is improving as well :)

That's great, it sounds to me like this will all work out for the best.

I know that many people have wanted this. Many coders/designers start here in hopes of getting noticed and starting their own sites to commercial sites..... vBAdvanced for example... ;)

I hope the authors have an "Opening Sale" :banana:

oh, quit a - brown - nosin', geek lol :)

We are discussing the best way to implement it - to facilitate time, we'll probably not code our own and use an existing script. We're looking.

Come On give vB some time, they have do us good and serve the community a great deal!!... Have Faith! Have Faith!

Sounds good Erwin!

Nothing happens over night, I sure understand that! :)