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ChrisLM2001 11-25-2004 09:18 AM

That did the trick, I didn't add these details....

Code:

Varname: messagetag
Setting Group: Site Name / URL / Contact Details
Title: Message Tag
Description: Tag to be appended at the front of the subject line in messages send by the forums.
Option Code: (blank)
Default: (blank)
Display Order: 35

Now it displays perfectly. :)

Chris

sv1cec 11-25-2004 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisLM2001
That did the trick, I didn't add these details....

Code:

Varname: messagetag
Setting Group: Site Name / URL / Contact Details
Title: Message Tag
Description: Tag to be appended at the front of the subject line in messages send by the forums.
Option Code: (blank)
Default: (blank)
Display Order: 35

Now it displays perfectly. :)

Chris

Glad you have it OK now.

Keep in mind, that if you want, you may use this tag in other messages as well. For example, I have added in every e-mail send out by my forums, the registration e-mail, the welcome e-mail etc. Then your members can filter on that tag, and move all their forums messages in a folder of their choice. I know they can do it with the e-mail address too, but what if the admin wants to e-mail someone for some reason? If you are filtering with the e-mail address the admin's e-mail will end up in the Forums folder and might not be seen.

Just a thought!

mcyates 11-25-2004 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sv1cec
Glad you have it OK now.

Keep in mind, that if you want, you may use this tag in other messages as well. For example, I have added in every e-mail send out by my forums, the registration e-mail, the welcome e-mail etc. Then your members can filter on that tag, and move all their forums messages in a folder of their choice. I know they can do it with the e-mail address too, but what if the admin wants to e-mail someone for some reason? If you are filtering with the e-mail address the admin's e-mail will end up in the Forums folder and might not be seen.

Just a thought!

Its the Number Of Days Members Are Banned which is messing things up.

1st warning (4 points) issued on 01/01/01 (ends on 11/01/01)
2nd warning (2 points) issued on 07/01/01 (ends on 18/01/01)
3rd warning (6 points) issued on 09/01/01 (ends on 20/01/01)

The member will only be banned for 2 days (after he received the 3rd warning) untill the 1st warning has expired. Its better to remove the "Number Of Days Members Are Banned" and just let the warnings work on their own, like the above one did. If they go over the warning limit, then they just have to wait untill one of the warnings have expired which will make them unbanned.

Is there anyway I can disable the Number Of Days Members Are Banned on my forum?

It is a great hack btw i already banned someone lol!!

SamirDarji 11-25-2004 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sv1cec
The question is...Do you still keep his warning points after he is banned, or do you erase them and let him start from scratch when he is unbanned?

I think that the warnings themselves define whether a user should start with a blank slate or not. For example:

A user is warned with a warning that has a duration of 5 days
The same user is warned with a warning that has a duration of 90 days (serious offense)
The same user is warned with another warning that has a duration of 10 days. This warning causes the user to be banned for 30 days.

Now, once the user is unbanned, the lessor offense warnings have expired, so the points don't count anymore. But the more serious offense is still on record, so another few minor offenses or one major one can get them banned again.

I think it is important for them to not have a clean slate because some things are too serious to give them a completely fresh start.

sv1cec 11-25-2004 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcyates
Its the Number Of Days Members Are Banned which is messing things up.

1st warning (4 points) issued on 01/01/01 (ends on 11/01/01)
2nd warning (2 points) issued on 07/01/01 (ends on 18/01/01)
3rd warning (6 points) issued on 09/01/01 (ends on 20/01/01)

The member will only be banned for 2 days (after he received the 3rd warning) untill the 1st warning has expired. Its better to remove the "Number Of Days Members Are Banned" and just let the warnings work on their own, like the above one did. If they go over the warning limit, then they just have to wait untill one of the warnings have expired which will make them unbanned.

Is there anyway I can disable the Number Of Days Members Are Banned on my forum?

It is a great hack btw i already banned someone lol!!


What you are asking is not the simplest thing to do, with just a parameter. It requires logic change, the unbanning method is now based on the standard algorithm provided by vB. If I were to implement your way, we had to have a different algorithm, which would check the warning points of the banned members versus the maximum number of points, and if below, it will unban them.

It's not a bad idea, but it is a totally different method of handling the problem.

Maybe in release 2.0, I 'll build in different scenarios, and let the admin select which one he/she likes to use. Until now, I have three in my mind, the existing one, another one where the warning points and the warnings of a banned member are deleted and yours. The second one can be easily implemented with a conditional and a Warning Option, in the code, as it is today. Yours needs more work, but hey if the twins allow me, I'll do it.

Rgds
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John

sv1cec 11-25-2004 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamirDarji
I think that the warnings themselves define whether a user should start with a blank slate or not. For example:

A user is warned with a warning that has a duration of 5 days
The same user is warned with a warning that has a duration of 90 days (serious offense)
The same user is warned with another warning that has a duration of 10 days. This warning causes the user to be banned for 30 days.

Now, once the user is unbanned, the lessor offense warnings have expired, so the points don't count anymore. But the more serious offense is still on record, so another few minor offenses or one major one can get them banned again.

I think it is important for them to not have a clean slate because some things are too serious to give them a completely fresh start.

I tend to agree with you.

The only problem is, that with the system as it is now, when a member reaches the maximum points and he is banned, his total warning points get reset to the maximum warning points. When the lesser warnings start getting removed, he artificially ends up with fewer points than he should have. In your example above, and assuming that the first offense was worth 2 points, the second 7 and the third 5, when the user was banned, he had 14 points, but the moment he gets banned he is left with 10 (let's assume the limit is 10). When the two minor warnings expire, (2+5) he is left with only 3 points.

I think that this is something I should address, by not resetting his total points to 10, but leaving them at whatever they were the moment he got banned, i.e. 14 in this case. In that way, even when the minor offenses are removed, he still has the 7 points from the major one, and with 3 more he gets banned again.

What do you people think?

------------

John

Shack Networks 11-25-2004 07:45 PM

The problem that I have is my added groups can not be warned/banned by Mods.

I have 2 user groups VIP and VIP+ and the mods can not see any way of warning them as the links do not show up for this group.

They can only warn/ban the default registered user group.

Admin can warn/ban all groups..

Any work around for this or will they be immune to being warned forever...

H

Shack Networks 11-25-2004 07:47 PM

ALSO

Can this be adapted so say for instance a member types a banned word or link to a website that is in a banned list he is automaticaly added a set amount of points with no mod intervention needed ?

If this feature could be added this hack would be 101% fantastic as aposed to 100% it is at the moment...

H

mcyates 11-25-2004 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sv1cec
I tend to agree with you.

The only problem is, that with the system as it is now, when a member reaches the maximum points and he is banned, his total warning points get reset to the maximum warning points. When the lesser warnings start getting removed, he artificially ends up with fewer points than he should have. In your example above, and assuming that the first offense was worth 2 points, the second 7 and the third 5, when the user was banned, he had 14 points, but the moment he gets banned he is left with 10 (let's assume the limit is 10). When the two minor warnings expire, (2+5) he is left with only 3 points.

I think that this is something I should address, by not resetting his total points to 10, but leaving them at whatever they were the moment he got banned, i.e. 14 in this case. In that way, even when the minor offenses are removed, he still has the 7 points from the major one, and with 3 more he gets banned again.

What do you people think?

------------

John

I think that this is something I should address, by not resetting his total points to 10, but leaving them at whatever they were the moment he got banned, i.e. 14 in this case. In that way, even when the minor offenses are removed, he still has the 7 points from the major one, and with 3 more he gets banned again.

What do you people think?

That would be better, just let the points warning do the job. and when one warning is removed and the points go below the banned limit he is unbanned

sv1cec 11-25-2004 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shack Networks
The problem that I have is my added groups can not be warned/banned by Mods.

I have 2 user groups VIP and VIP+ and the mods can not see any way of warning them as the links do not show up for this group.

They can only warn/ban the default registered user group.

Admin can warn/ban all groups..

Any work around for this or will they be immune to being warned forever...

H

I'll see what I can do about your VIPs, as for the list, this needs more investigation. I have to see how the forbidden words are handled, and see if this can be incorporated in the hack. Possibly somewhere in the postbit or when you post a new post.

And I was planning to do some chores tomorrow morning.....

Rgds
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John


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