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JTMON 11-30-2001 01:48 AM

I also find this odd since ALL vb admins have this ability and it's not in the default privacy statement

DarkReaper 11-30-2001 02:21 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JTMON
I also find this odd since ALL vb admins have this ability and it's not in the default privacy statement

bira 11-30-2001 02:27 AM

JTMON, consult a lawyer.

JTMON 11-30-2001 02:29 AM

Well that helps:rolleyes:

Did you happen to ask your lawyer the laws regarding this if the server isn't in the US, if I'm not in the US, etc etc....

bira 11-30-2001 02:33 AM

All known ISPs include the following notice in their terms of service.

Quote:

Our staff will not look at or read your email unless it is necessary to resolve a technical issue. In almost all cases, we will clearly inform you of the need to do so, and we will seek your permission before opening your mailbox on our servers.
Not only don't you have a notice like that on your website, but you now take it a step further and make it readily available to one or more admins to access and read a user's private communication without as much as asking a user's permission or even notifying him.

That is cause for lawsuit.

My source? this used to be my line of work :)

JTMON 11-30-2001 02:34 AM

Again I must say that unless just about every vb owner HAS this altered Privacy Statement currently, regardless of if this hack has been installed, then they are ALREADY would be in violation of the law since they ALREADY have this ability WITHOUT this hack.

bira 11-30-2001 02:36 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JTMON
Well that helps:rolleyes:

Did you happen to ask your lawyer the laws regarding this if the server isn't in the US, if I'm not in the US, etc etc....

JTMON 11-30-2001 02:37 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bira


If the service you provide is offered in the USA, even if the server or your company are not in the USA, then you can be charged in the USA as well -- same goes for COPPA if you didn't know.

Furthermore, the Privacy Act is also enforced by the EU (European Union), so if at least 5% of your traffic come from the USA or the EU, you face liability in the USA and any EU member country.

bira 11-30-2001 02:43 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JTMON
Again I must say that unless just about every vb owner HAS this altered Privacy Statement currently, regardless of if this hack has been installed, then they are ALREADY would be in violation of the law since they ALREADY have this ability WITHOUT this hack.

bira 11-30-2001 02:46 AM

Actually COPPA is also for general audience websites which may include kids, that collects information. In any event, that is not the point. The point was that even though COPPA is a USA act you as a service provider (assuming you fit the description of the law) are liable in the USA even if your company and server are outside the USA.


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