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mokonzi 06-04-2010 08:22 PM

Thanks for the responses, and I like what I'm seeing so far, but a question or two:

Why is it that the Like/Thank isn't integrated into the standard post controls (Blog this article, etc.)?

Second, the styling doesn't seem to naturally absorb the standards across the normal styles, to get mine to reflect the styles of the regular controls buttons (moderation menu at the foot of the thread) I had to adjust this template:

Template: dbtech_thanks_postbit_entries

Code:

<vb:if condition="$show[dbtech_thanks_thanks]"><span id="dbtech_thanks_thanks_{vb:var post.postid}" class="navpopupmenu popupmenu nohovermenu"><a href="javascript://" onclick="Thanks{vb:var post.postid}.ajax_call('thanks');" class="textcontrol" style="border-radius:5px;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px;padding-left:23px;float:left:clear:right;"><img src="dbtech/thanks/images/thanks.png" alt="{vb:rawphrase dbtech_thanks_thanks}" /> {vb:rawphrase dbtech_thank_this_post}</a></span></vb:if>
                               
                                <vb:if condition="$show[dbtech_thanks_like]"><span id="dbtech_thanks_like_{vb:var post.postid}" class="navpopupmenu popupmenu nohovermenu"><a href="javascript://" onclick="Thanks{vb:var post.postid}.ajax_call('like');" class="textcontrol" style="border-radius:5px;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px;padding-left:23px;float:left:clear:right;"><img src="dbtech/thanks/images/like.png" alt="{vb:rawphrase dbtech_thanks_like}" /> {vb:rawphrase dbtech_like_this_post}</a></span></vb:if>

@ SnapOff Racing

To unbold it (not sure about the other question) you can go to the template called dbtech_thanks_postbit and then change:

Code:

<dd class="collapse" style="font-weight:bold;">
to

Code:

<dd class="collapse">

DragonByte Tech 06-04-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnapOff Racing (Post 2047761)
LOVE this hack, and it works great, but I have 2 simple things I'd like to do with it:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2010/06/34.png

I'd like to move where it says thanks to the BOTTOM line of the postbit, as well as unbold it if possible to match the rest of them.

if anyone can help me with this, I'd greatly appreciate it!

It's really only designed to be positioned where it is atm, though we'll look into making them more movable in the future :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokonzi (Post 2048423)
Why is it that the Like/Thank isn't integrated into the standard post controls (Blog this article, etc.)?

Wouldn't it look odd on lower resolution skins though? Having two, or three in the pro version, extra controls?
We don't have any narrow width skins to test with, you see...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokonzi (Post 2048423)
Second, the styling doesn't seem to naturally absorb the standards across the normal styles, to get mine to reflect the styles of the regular controls buttons (moderation menu at the foot of the thread) I had to adjust this template:

It does, some skin coders just don't correctly clear out the contents of a certain stylevar, instead they just remove the CSS attribute =/

SnapOff Racing 06-04-2010 08:48 PM

there has to be a way to move it...i've done it with other hacks before...what is the name of the code and where is it placed so i can figure it out myself...im not wanting to have you make it movable within the hack, i'd like to shift the code myself.

mokonzi 06-04-2010 09:15 PM

It's using a hook location, so you'd have to adjust the plugins/files to relocate that section, or completely move the hook, but that would then move and break any other mods and extensions you have, such as the blog.

Quote:

It does, some skin coders just don't correctly clear out the contents of a certain stylevar, instead they just remove the CSS attribute =/
I'm using the default skin just adjusting the stylevars, which is why I mentioned it. It is frustrating how things don't completely integrate fully with vB4 (that is vB4 generally, not this hack). :)

War.Frog 06-04-2010 09:59 PM

Does anyone know if VSA's Advanced Forum Statistics would pick these number(s) up? At least total Thanks and Dislikes. It currently picks up Abe's automatically.

Edit: Also, Paul M's advanced forum notifications tells me immediately when I receive Thanks. Same thing?

vauge 06-04-2010 11:39 PM

Still can't get this product to work. I am sure a newer version might, for now - removed from test forum.

Also, if I can't move it around within my templates, that is bad - the little carrot thing looks very ugly and was the first thing I was looking forward to removing. Now, I hear we can't adjust any of it.

Postbit footer:
How about a dropdown within the postbit footer for thanks/likes/dislikes? This would only use 1 space in the postbit footer and still look ok in lower resolutions. Currently the extra bar is cartoonish with the icons and takes up WAY too much space.

The thanks notifications take up *too much space* as well. You should consider doing something like (in order):
===
Users below thank/like/dislike this post:
Thanks: joe1, job3, marylamb42, joesmama Likes: sally, tom42, walmartlover96 Dislikes: user4, unclejoe5
===
Use horizontal space as much as you can. You are wasting a ton of valuable real estate.

I would also advise:
Look at the history of successful vBulletin addons that sell pro versions. Give away the Abe converter/reports for free but make likes and dislikes part of the pro version. Go back to drawing board and you could make a ton of money before Abe gets his stats/dislikes working again. Replicate all his functions and reports from 3.8 version. If you keep reports/converter only pro version then we do not have the opportunity to test it on our test forums and switch it to our live with hundreds of thousands of thanks and millions of posts and we will be very apprehensive to purchase.

DragonByte Tech 06-04-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mokonzi (Post 2048463)
I'm using the default skin just adjusting the stylevars, which is why I mentioned it. It is frustrating how things don't completely integrate fully with vB4 (that is vB4 generally, not this hack). :)

Weird, because postbit_control_background stylevar is what controls the background of this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by War.Frog (Post 2048491)
Does anyone know if VSA's Advanced Forum Statistics would pick these number(s) up? At least total Thanks and Dislikes. It currently picks up Abe's automatically.

Edit: Also, Paul M's advanced forum notifications tells me immediately when I receive Thanks. Same thing?

I doubt vSA picks these up auto, he'll need to add support for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vauge (Post 2048521)
Still can't get this product to work. I am sure a newer version might, for now - removed from test forum.

Also, if I can't move it around within my templates, that is bad - the little carrot thing looks very ugly and was the first thing I was looking forward to removing. Now, I hear we can't adjust any of it.

Postbit footer:
How about a dropdown within the postbit footer for thanks/likes/dislikes? This would only use 1 space in the postbit footer and still look ok in lower resolutions. Currently the extra bar is cartoonish with the icons and takes up WAY too much space.

The thanks notifications take up *too much space* as well. You should consider doing something like (in order):
===
Users below thank/like/dislike this post:
Thanks: joe1, job3, marylamb42, joesmama Likes: sally, tom42, walmartlover96 Dislikes: user4, unclejoe5
===
Use horizontal space as much as you can. You are wasting a ton of valuable real estate.

I would also advise:
Look at the history of successful vBulletin addons that sell pro versions. Give away the Abe converter/reports for free but make likes and dislikes part of the pro version. Go back to drawing board and you could make a ton of money before Abe gets his stats/dislikes working again. Replicate all his functions and reports from 3.8 version. If you keep reports/converter only pro version then we do not have the opportunity to test it on our test forums and switch it to our live with hundreds of thousands of thanks and millions of posts and we will be very apprehensive to purchase.

Thanks for your suggestions, could I please ask you to post them on Project Tools on our site instead?
When it's time to evaluate new versions, we don't have time to look through general support requests to spot the individual suggestion ;)

As for your problems, what exactly didn't work with it?
And what do you mean, carrot thing?

War.Frog 06-04-2010 11:45 PM

That's my concern too. I can't see how the conversion function will work without spending money on the Pro version, and at $50 USD that's not a cheap test.

DragonByte Tech 06-05-2010 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by War.Frog (Post 2048525)
That's my concern too. I can't see how the conversion function will work without spending money on the Pro version, and at $50 USD that's not a cheap test.

=) The pro version starts at <$20 and even the most expensive option is less that $45, maybe you're looking at the wrong site?

If you need an example of how the conversion works, feel free to make a post on the forums, i'm sure one of our customers will be happy to let you know how it worked for them ^.^

Also Vague, thanks for the suggestions ^.^, We're not really in the business of copying other peoples mods though, we just work with our own ideas, and then add customer requests to it. Making tons of money isn't our primary motivation either ^^

Iain

vauge 06-05-2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech (Post 2048532)
Also Vague, thanks for the suggestions, We're not really in the business of copying other peoples mods though, we just work with our own ideas, and then add customer requests to it. Making tons of money isn't our primary motivation either.

Awesome. I can respect that your primary motivation is not about money.

Since, we seem to share the same philosophy - I will let you add my concerns to your product request system because you are *selling* an option I am needing. This thread is the hub for your product.

Abe's can already do what I need less the reports. That is why I am here - looking for additional reports ability. Even your current Pro reports do not have what we need.

I called it a carrot, but I meant the "collapse icon" in the postbit. If there is zero dislikes/thanks - don't even show dislikes or thanks. Again, waste of space.

However, if you sell a product that attempts to compete with a standard like Abe's thanks - you simply must have equal or better options for the same price. In this case: free. That could mean copying the same functions (not necessarily code) from another product you wish to compete with. Those functions (reports) are what I currently need. Your product and Abe's 4.0 product does not have them - YET. So for me, your current pro ($50) product is virtually the same as Abe's free version. Because I can guarantee someone will, very soon, create those reports we are asking for with the other mod.

Above all: I don't have a need for "dislikes". But, I have to admit - your "likes" ability is enticing.

Thanks for listening.


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