open forum - closed
now managed to shoot :D

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2009/10/11.png

http://s43.radikal.ru/i102/0910/2f/6ce27b3e3204.jpg

Whoa looking great :)

Agreed. This is extremely unprofessional. You would think a company as large as IB would have known beforehand that the new installation would not seamlessly interact with their current system.

I'm an I.T. admin. If I upgraded a system at our office and took over 24 hours for what should be 1 to 2 hours I would be fired.

looks good indeed
all the fuzz about the url and best software name ,well for years vb is a outstanding product
and will do so for many more years ,i just dont get it ,why some people like to see heads rolling .
those guys are proud on there product there using a funky url and so what !
there proud and so should we be ,they work hard enough for it :(

I have used vB forum software for years. They set the standard for what can be done.

Lets look at the facts:
1. They boasted they have a better product coming which looks similar to IP product.
2. They ask us to purchase in *advance* a product we have never seen.
3. They are losing developers.
4. They stop the China group.
5. A "simple" upgrade has been down now for well over 24 hours.

This looks very bad for perception on the leadership. I am personally considering not upgrading. It makes me wonder if their core philosophy of quality over quantity has changed. There are other software for forums. Especially if I can no longer use 3.8 when my license "runs out". It also makes me wonder if the new product looks and feels like another product on the market if vB is actually innovating or simply re-skinning the old stuff.

I'm not trying to kick them while they are down, but that is my take.

Based on the fact that they said 'the morning' - that allows them up to noon :)

The problem is, there isn't really any alternatives...

I'm not so sure about IPB; and all the free ones are horrible...

And my take is that the forums are getting re-skinned along with the start of the re-factoring of the entire codebase. Given the time it's taken to get this far without doing that, I'm glad that they're only doing what's necessary just now otherwise who knows when we'd get the fully re-worked suite.

vB4 is just the start of things - IMO, vB5 will be the first full new incarnation of the vB product.

seems a bit strange the site is not back yet, i hope they ain't done a runner.

I agree. I had to use a free one on a site earlier this year as they wouldn't pay for one and it was crap. Crap to use, crap to style - you get what you pay for.