The ban looks stupid to me why is it when nuns walk around nothing happens yes there is more backward muslim wearing the burkha in france than nuns.. But it always islam that in the news or the papers. Okay there is some noobish radical muslims but there not muslims there a disgrace to islam. I'm starting to hate the media always be anti-islam i hope soon the radical muslims are in a room and nuked :). so that others muslims can live in peace, back to topic :D. There was first the hijab that wasnt allowed then muslims in france started using burkhas instead.. and soon lets see what else they wear..

Allah Says:
They aim to extinguish God's light with their utterances: [9] but God has willed to spread His light in all its fullness, however hateful this may be to all who deny the truth

And
O followers of the Bible! Now there has come unto you Our Apostle, to make clear unto you much of what you have been concealing [from yourselves) of the Bible, [28] and to pardon much. Now there has come unto you from God a light, and a clear divine writ,


one day you will hear Sarkozy says
Borkha is compulsory in France
cause thousands of French converted to islam every year.

do you know why?

Read what French Professor (Bocay Morris) Says in his book (the Koran and the Torah and the Bible and Science)
you will know why French ppl converted to islam !

Democracy HERE Says 53.33% Disagreed

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God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The parable of His light is, as it were, [50] that of a niche containing a lamp; the lamp is [enclosed] in glass, the glass [shining] like a radiant star: [51] [a lamp] lit from a blessed tree - an olive-tree that is neither of the east nor of the west [52] the oil whereof [is so bright that it] would well-nigh give light [of itself] even though fire had not touched it: light upon light! [53] God guides unto His light him that wills [to be guided]; [54] and [to this end] God propounds parables unto men, since God [alone] has full knowledge of all things. [55]

It may be about force Jacquii, But mainly National Security i dare say. Either way the guy don't want it, why can't people respect the law of the land??

They only Stone women to death in Islamic countries, not france :rolleyes:

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Hi bela-meaad

Thanks for your response :)

I'm not saying that people do not convert to islam, Thats Great its their right to do it but, the Burkha is mainly an Arab costume and not worn by every single muslim convert.

In Fact there is only a small tiny minority of Muslims in Europe that Wear the burkha, and the ones that do are mainly imigrants from the strict arab countries which they've escaped from.

In Saudi Arabia, women wear the burkha, But if your a muslim in a western country your more than likely to wear western clothes, even in Iraq and iran, a simple head scarf is more than enough, Even Muslim countries have Banned the Burkha, like Turkey.

As a Muslim yourself, do you regard Muslims in western countries as Bad Muslims because they don't wear the Burkha, and if you could say to a Western Woman Muslim she must wear a burkha, what reason would you give as the Koran simply states that the woman must cover up modestly.

;)

it is not matter of Burkha
its matter of islam.

Even Muslim countries have Banned the Burkha, like Turkey.
Thats not true
scarf was only prevented in UNI
and that was prevented in secular system time
but not any more
so don`t poke the poison in food and mix up everything.


what if the oboriginals in Australia
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1246473577
Force Australian women
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1246473577
to take off her cloths and be naked as they are

Allah Bless you

Not sure why you seem to go on about naked women, The debate is about a countries refusal to allow the burkha to be worn, Nothing about naked women :confused:

Wrong again, The Debate is is about wearing the Burkha, Nothing to do with religion or islam, If Christians and Jews wore the Burkha it would apply for them too.

Their are lots of things that we do in the west, that you cannot do in Saudi arabia and vise versa, We each need to RESPECT each countries laws, Why won't you respect it??

^^ I don't quite understand why you keep on repeating 'respecting other countries law'.
The ban on headgear and burkha will mostly effect French citizens only.

It won't affect french Citizens as they don't wear the Burkha.

Let me explain

When you go to a different country you have to go by their laws - Agree ??

Like when people from other countries visit your countries they respect your laws - Agree??

And if a country deems its unacceptable then you must accept that countrys rights.

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No because Our countries are civilised.
Lets discuss how our women must cover up when they go to certain countries,or not even be allowed to kiss or cuddle or show affection for one another in public regardless if married or not.
Maybe we should try and force our views on these countries like they try to do with ours

Ah! Now we get to the truth of the situation. National Security eh? Funny.
But why make all the false arguments, purporting to give a damn about the debasement of women when "national security" is at issue? For me - that just goes to show that there is a secret, hidden agenda behind the whole farcical "no burkha" legislation. And for this reason alone - I think the no-burkha law is despicable. There's a way to do things, and I would dare say the anti-muslim stance shrouded in the lie of "empowering woman" is no different than covering oneself up in a burkha.

Jacquii.

ps - I was actually serious about the statement I made - what is the said penalty if a woman is caught wearing a burkha, thus breaking that ridiculous French law? And yes - I know that in some islamic-premised countries there is stoning; sometimes I think such stringent punishments would fair well in western countries ala the thief gets his hands cut off hahaha...

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Ah! Are we talking about "getting even" with these evil Muslim countries or are we talking about actually having the best interest of oppressed woman at heart?

Looking at this purely from an unemotional and unbiased stance - I would say that you guys are being bigots: "Those people are bad so let's take away their rights to wear what they want to wear."

Jacquii.

So when i say Muslims are more than happy to wear the burkha no one wants to listen to me?? The problem is when they enter a different country, Mainly a non islamic country.

The Laws of different countries are not made my me or anyone else, they are decide via a democratic process.

There are reasons of National Security where Terrorist and criminals have commited crimes and escaped wearing Burkha's, so that too has an element of fact.

Imagine Jacquii, you went to Saudi Arabia and was told to cover your head, and you refused,on the principal that you feel you can wear what your want. What do you think would happen, will they say, its ok, we're cool or will the Religious Police, (yes there are such things) come and arresst you??

There is also the Public safety Element, where you can't identify the person in a Burkha, Not sure what happens in the States, but in the UK when you Enter a Bank or Shop theres often as sign asking people to remove their Motorcycle Crash helmets. So that they can be Identified on the CCTV camera's.

Its so easy to debate something that dosesn't effect your personally but you need to look at the question from all angles.