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TheLastSuperman 08-29-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkyirishman (Post 2441899)
Ok total noobie question

Have Spam o matic installed and was directed here also to install this but in what folder do I load the xml into:o

Thanks

/includes/xml/

Otherwise in product manager simply click to "Browse" and locate the product.xml file in the folder on your computer to upload that way.

Also nice mod kh99, added to the list :D https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=276547

funkyirishman 08-30-2013 06:03 PM

Thanks

vb-forum 09-04-2013 08:51 AM

Hello!

Good plugin.. thanks!

Now I'm using it with Spam-O-Matic (my first Bot filter).
Is it possibile to take action to "Spambot Stopper" after Spam-O-Matic and not before as default?

Thanks

kh99 09-04-2013 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vb-forum (Post 2443091)
Hello!

Good plugin.. thanks!

Now I'm using it with Spam-O-Matic (my first Bot filter).
Is it possibile to take action to "Spambot Stopper" after Spam-O-Matic and not before as default?

Thanks

I think it might be possible to do that by adjusting the "execution order" fields of the plugins on one or the other of the mods, but unfortunately I don't have time to test it. If you do decide to try it, maybe increase all the plugins for this mod by a fixed amount (which will make them run later than other plugins on the same hooks), so that they stay the same order relative to each other (I hope that makes sense). It may or may not work depending on which hook locations are used by Spam-O-Matic.

vb-forum 09-05-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kh99 (Post 2443257)
I think it might be possible to do that by adjusting the "execution order" fields of the plugins on one or the other of the mods, but unfortunately I don't have time to test it. If you do decide to try it, maybe increase all the plugins for this mod by a fixed amount (which will make them run later than other plugins on the same hooks), so that they stay the same order relative to each other (I hope that makes sense). It may or may not work depending on which hook locations are used by Spam-O-Matic.

Hello kh99,
thanks for the tip... but it did not solve the problem :(

I've also seen a possible bug (after the execution order change and after reset).
In case of "bad" captcha, the user will retry to reinsert it (+password).
For this operation he takes little time (<20 sec)
In this case here the result:

Code:

...a registration attempt was rejected because:
- Form submission time less than 20 second(s) (12 seconds).


kh99 09-05-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vb-forum (Post 2443379)
Hello kh99,
thanks for the tip... but it did not solve the problem :(


The problem you're referring to is that if this mod catches someone registering too fast, it doesn't go through Spam-O-Matic?


Quote:

I've also seen a possible bug (after the execution order change and after reset).
In case of "bad" captcha, the user will retry to reinsert it (+password).
For this operation he takes little time (<20 sec)
In this case here the result:

Code:

...a registration attempt was rejected because:
- Form submission time less than 20 second(s) (12 seconds).



I could look in to that if I get a chance. It could be that no one's mentioned that yet because spambots are getting by captcha, so people aren't using it.

vb-forum 09-05-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kh99 (Post 2443415)
The problem you're referring to is that if this mod catches someone registering too fast, it doesn't go through Spam-O-Matic?

I was referring to Spam-O-Matic priority (before this plugin).
No effect with your tip about "order".



Quote:

Originally Posted by kh99 (Post 2443415)
I could look in to that if I get a chance. It could be that no one's mentioned that yet because spambots are getting by captcha, so people aren't using it.

it could be a reason....

CharlieDelta 09-06-2013 02:34 PM

kh99 do you think there may be a problem with runnin this mod and yours?

I was using a similar mod to yours and was having a conflict.
See here. https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....&postcount=515

kh99 09-06-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieDelta (Post 2443740)
kh99 do you think there may be a problem with runnin this mod and yours?


It's quite possible, but I haven't tested them together. When it comes down to it, any other mod that deals with registrations has a chance of conflicting with this mod, but all I can really do is try to deal with issues people report (and I don't even have a lot of time for that these days).

Are you having a problem with this mod conflicting with the db tech mod, or did you just want to let me know about the possibility?

CharlieDelta 09-06-2013 05:18 PM

I wanted to let you know but even more importantly I would like to use your mod as it is a great weapon in keeping away spam registrations. :)

shaneweddle 09-16-2013 04:35 PM

Hello,

Installed Spambot Stopper via:
Plugin & Products \ Add/Import Product \ upload the XML

It now shows up under "Plugin & Products"...
But I don't see it listed under "settings \ Options" ??? what to do ???

Running VB 4.2.1
Screenshot of it listed in Add/Import Product
http://screencast.com/t/WvMNDkL2bA

Any help is appreciated, Thanks!
/Shane

kh99 09-16-2013 04:57 PM

I don't know why it wouldn't be there. It should be all the way at the bottom (or near the bottom) of the list of option categories.

shaneweddle 09-16-2013 05:26 PM

Hi kh99, Thanks for the fast reply, very cool!

I had another look and no such luck (see screen shot)
http://screencast.com/t/x14Tx0rnq

- Is there any code to place in the "Add New Product Dependency"
- How About settings of "Product Dependency"?
Again with the screen shot: http://screencast.com/t/zNWsyzdUI7

I maybe a noob at Vbulletin but I'm col with looking over xml or PHP files and settings as well as looking in the DB if needed to debug... just point me in the right direction.

Thanks!
Shane

kh99 09-16-2013 05:40 PM

I think what you've done is to create a new product instead of importing mine. The Add / Import Product screen is a little confusing until you get used to it. If you're importing a product xml file, you only want to look at the top part of that page. You only need to Browse to find the xml file, then press the "Import" button, and ignore the "Add New Product" section under that.

So if I'm right, you can fix it by using "Manage Products" to uninstall that product, then try again using the Add/Import Product link.

shaneweddle 09-16-2013 06:10 PM

Yes.. I think your are right...
I did select file but instead of clicking "import" I jumped down to the lower form and populated the fields under "Add New Product" then clicked [save]

Part of being a n00b...
Thanks for the rockstar help!

/Shane

shaneweddle 09-16-2013 06:22 PM

Hi kh99, Thanks for the fast reply, very cool!

I had another look and no such luck (see screen shot)
http://screencast.com/t/x14Tx0rnq

- Is there any code to place in the "Add New Product Dependency"
- How About settings of "Product Dependency"?
Again with the screen shot: http://screencast.com/t/zNWsyzdUI7

I maybe a noob at Vbulletin but I'm col with looking over xml or PHP files and settings as well as looking in the DB if needed to debug... just point me in the right direction.

Thanks!
Shane

kh99 09-16-2013 07:11 PM

I can't see the top of the page on that screen shot, so I don't know which product you're editing, but you shouldn't be editing a product at all. You should only need to use the "Import Product" form on the "Add /Import New Product" page, and you should only need to use the Browse button to find the file on your pc, then press Import.

ForceHSS 09-16-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneweddle (Post 2446020)
Hi kh99, Thanks for the fast reply, very cool!

I had another look and no such luck (see screen shot)
http://screencast.com/t/x14Tx0rnq

- Is there any code to place in the "Add New Product Dependency"
- How About settings of "Product Dependency"?
Again with the screen shot: http://screencast.com/t/zNWsyzdUI7

I maybe a noob at Vbulletin but I'm col with looking over xml or PHP files and settings as well as looking in the DB if needed to debug... just point me in the right direction.

Thanks!
Shane

Your in the wrong screen by the look of it

Terrablade 11-03-2013 06:28 AM

Hey kh99.. Any word on if you are going to add the stats option to show on the forum kind of like how Spam Hammer Series 3 does it? Spam hammer series 3 is nice but 97 usd a year is just pushing the limits. thanks :D

Terrablade 11-03-2013 06:30 AM

Darn it. not compatible with vb 3.8.7... Can you code it for us vb3 users? thanks.

kh99 11-03-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrablade (Post 2457966)
Hey kh99.. Any word on if you are going to add the stats option to show on the forum kind of like how Spam Hammer Series 3 does it? Spam hammer series 3 is nice but 97 usd a year is just pushing the limits. thanks :D

I don't have any any immediate plans to work on this, but I may in the future. I'm not familiar with the paid version of that other product, and it's not my intention to provide free versions of things people are trying to sell. But I did have plans to add logging of attempts to this product, and then it would be fairly easy to add stats.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrablade (Post 2457967)
Darn it. not compatible with vb 3.8.7... Can you code it for us vb3 users? thanks.

vb3 version is here: https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=294651 but I don't think it's quite up to date with the vb4 version.

mdawg 11-25-2013 02:36 PM

I installed Glowhost Spam O Matic onto my 4.2.2 site.

Is it okay to install this mod of yours as well?

kh99 11-25-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdawg (Post 2463611)
I installed Glowhost Spam O Matic onto my 4.2.2 site.

Is it okay to install this mod of yours as well?


I haven't tried it. I had someone tell me a while back in this thread that a feature of spam-o-matic was stopping the "post registration attempts to a thread" feature of this mod from working. I talked to a spam-o-matic guy about making a change to their mod to solve the problem, which they did, but the person who first complained about it said it still didn't work, and I never tried it. So, this mod should work with spam-o-matic, except possibly if you want to have this mod post to a thread and you use the spam-o-matic feature that stops spammers from posting, then you might not see the posts from this mod.

I hope that makes sense. If you decide to try it, let us know if things work ok.

ForceHSS 11-25-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdawg (Post 2463611)
I installed Glowhost Spam O Matic onto my 4.2.2 site.

Is it okay to install this mod of yours as well?

Yes I have both running on my site and same version as yours

final kaoss 12-01-2013 01:34 AM

Interesting mod, any new features planned like a red herring spam trap? Instead of it being on a newreply/newthread area, try to make something similar for the registration?

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

Quote:

I ran across this little beauty a few days ago. The Comment Spam Trap is a WordPress plugin that is simple and easy to install. Once installed you just sit back and watch the spam disappear.

When I first installed the plugin I set up the plugin to email me the trapped comments. I wanted to make sure it wasn’t trapping and deleting comments I wanted. It doesn’t. It is very slick in how it works, getting the spam bots to fill in a field that isn’t visible to a regular commenter.

If that field is filled in, the trap is sprung and the spam bots little droppings are flushed from your site.

I’m still using Askimet on all the sites. Since putting the Comment Spam Trap into place I’ve only had one comment come through.

Yes, there are still some spammers that like to do it themselves, go figure. This is where Askimet comes in to put the final death grip on the slippery human touch spam.

kh99 12-01-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by final kaoss (Post 2464887)
Interesting mod, any new features planned like a red herring spam trap? Instead of it being on a newreply/newthread area, try to make something similar for the registration?

http://www.realestatebloglab.com/images/spam-trap.jpg


I might have time over the next couple months to work on it, but I'm not sure. I have a half finished version that has logging and is restructured to make it easy to add on features, so if I get that finished you or I or someone could probably add a feature like that.

So I guess it could work by allowing the spammer to register, putting them in a special usergroup, then anything they try to post would post in a special forum?

sv1cec 12-01-2013 11:06 AM

A feature I would be interested in seeing in this beauty (elegant simplicity, that's what this hack is), is to report the country, from which the spammer came. I have the code ready to check an ip2country table in my database, but I have no idea where to insert it and how to pass the value to the email message it sends me.

kh99 12-01-2013 12:20 PM

When I get a chance I'll look at the code and see how difficult it would be to add something like that.

sv1cec 12-01-2013 12:33 PM

I am sorry to report that I have an issue with this.

I had it installed and it was working perfectly , yesterday alone it stopped 340 spam registration attempts.

I tried to add my testing code, which by the way, I'll gladly provide to you, and I have stopped receiving emails for spammers attempts. So, I uninstalled the product, downloaded it again and re-install it, and still no emails. What can be the problem? I tested my email account and the ability of vbulletin to send emails and they both work just fine.

It appears that the program doesn't catch the spammers. I raised the minimum time to 120 sec and I registered a test user, the registration went through fine.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Further on this, what is strange, is that I do not appear to be bombed with spam registrations!!!!!

kh99 12-01-2013 01:37 PM

That is strange. I can't think of why that would happen. You didn't install any other mods in between?

sv1cec 12-01-2013 01:46 PM

I think I've found the reason. I have renamed my register.php file to something else. Your plugin refers to register.php in two locations. I've manually edited the xml file to point to that new file and I am awaiting to see the results.

sv1cec 12-01-2013 02:15 PM

Well still no email messages and no posts in the thread that I've specified, but at least I am not receiving any registrations by spambots. I do not know if it is your hack that stops them, or something else, but I sure miss those emails that I got, they made me feel safe.

kh99 12-01-2013 04:12 PM

I'm not sure why that would happen. I guess you probably double checked the email addresses you're sending to. Did you set "Limit Notifications By Registration Time" to anything?

sv1cec 12-01-2013 07:28 PM

Nope, that was not the problem.

I am dead right now, it is 10:30 pm and we just returned from the kids soccer match, but if you agree, I can PM you tomorrow morning with all the details. I think I have a pretty good idea of what was happening.

If you feel like it, I have some ideas on how to improve this hack, I used to have all these implemented in my vb 3.0.13 site and we had reduced spam to almost none.

The hack works fine now, so don't worry about it. Email addresses were fine, and no I didn't have anything in Limit Notifications.

More tomorrow.

kh99 12-01-2013 07:59 PM

Absolutely, if you think you've got info that will help me figure out your problem, send it to me. And send me any other ideas you have for the mod, although I can't promise anything right now.

webmastersitesi 12-31-2013 07:12 AM

can you integrate stopforumspam database api check

sv1cec 12-31-2013 07:31 AM

Just use this hack and also use vbStopForumSpam. They work fine together.

rhody401 12-31-2013 05:20 PM

This also works well beside spam-o-matic, which checks the db.

Max Taxable 12-31-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhody401 (Post 2471613)
This also works well beside spam-o-matic, which checks the db.

There's no conflict, that is true. But with this working, SoM will have little to do since it won't see autospam anymore.

rhody401 01-02-2014 04:17 PM

That is true. Very few spammers get as far as SOM, on our forum, with this installed. But I still like having that extra layer of security :)

Some of them are hiring students to physically create the accounts, at human speed.


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