If some members make an official complaint (report post/detailed PM to a Staff member) with proof, we will always investigate the report and take action if needed.

Ok, thanks. I thought someone already did. At least they mentioned it in this thread. I thought an investigation would be initiated without a member having to take the first step.

BTW, Brad. Logically one of your comments I don't really get. You single out one rule.

The rules as posted are like this...

I presume someone trolling, etc would not disqualify them from HOTM. ;)

Brad merely highlighted one rule - That doesn't mean that the other rules may not apply to this or any other case...

Chris

As the HotM rules currently seem to be based on the General site rules I would really not like to hazzard a guess at how many HotM contenders over the last 4 years may well have been in breach of these rules, I would guess the majority. It would really depend on how you want to interpret each "general" rule. It could be seen by some that v3arcade is as much in breech of the self promotion rule #2 in Site wide rules.

As they say whats good for the goose is good for the gander and it really depends on 1 interpretation and 2 how much to the letter the rules are to be followed in their current vague form.

I have no beef with either arcade. v3 was great at one time and still has that potential, Im still a fan of both products. The way the rules are currently applied are just a no goer.

How come my invites system isn't in the list? ;P
How are hacks nominated, anyway?

it's done automatcially based on the number of installations.

Oh, I see... :(

Holly cow! I didn't even know my crappy little hack was in this poll. Up against the words "game" and "Google" none the less. Sure to fail in that fight. :D Figures it would be there when conspiracy theories and espionage rule the day. Oh well, such is life.

I guess it would be a good idea to email hack authors whenever a hack of theirs ends up in this little backstage show here. And in that email could be a little update on the rules and guidlines that a good little coder should follow when their prized toys are dancing on this stage. That would pretty much solve everything. And the bonus is, they might even get to know their hack is involved.

Is it ok if we vote for our own? :D

Are you serious? I think there may be a little more important things for staff to do then to remind everyone that should care enough to check, that their hack is in the running.

With that said though, I am going to vote for you as I like underdogs... :)

GOODLUCK!

Sorry, I meant as an automated process, and mostly to stipulate the rules. I was being facetious with the notification part. Since it seems that election to the poll is automated also. Why not just add another process. It's called CYA where I come from. So yes, I am serious.

You do know that the staff here are really Alice bots right?

ok where are the hanging chads? Instead of taking votes away the Supreme Court (vb.org command central) chose to remove the candidate. what a mess. just like the election process in the US I remember seeing all over the place to vote for VBSEO sitemap. that didn't make me vote for them I voted for another script. I think this is a rotten deal. no one put a GUN to another users head telling them to vote for ibpro. if it wasn't a hack to the voting system or mass spamming I believe your justification just plainly stinks. i never received a PM

THIS IS A MESS

I had my suspicions. :smoke:

They seem to miss the point that by punishing the author they are inadvertently punishing the voters.
The least they can do is let us vote for something else. (WITHOUT HAVING TO PM SOMEONE!)

I am sure those "someone' would prefer you not to pm them either. :ninja:

We have given you a way to change your vote yet you choose not to PM anyone to get it done - Therefore the problem is on your end, not ours...

Chris

Then can you mass pm the people who voted for ibproarcade to revote again? Not! :D

I strongly disagree. It's the least you can do for your customers. I problem is squarely on the staff and attitudes like that paint a negative picture. Wow, I need to actually do some work and solve everyones problem in one shot as opposed to 200 people PMing you. I would also mass PM everyone whos votes you tossed out and inform them kindly that you are sorry for the inconvenience and that they can vote again.
That's the right company/customer attitude to have!

Did you paypal Chris or something. Since when did the feature list at vb.com include voting for hotm at vb.org?

I want to change my vote to PIE!

in a democratic vote process. if we find that a rule is fraudulent you throw it out. you don't throw out the candidate. you throw out the votes.

v3Arcade


I feel sorry for ibpro though :(

My prediction is, this thread will be closed at midnite. :D

And well it should be.

Since the poll runs from the 15th of each month to the 15th of the next month, my prediction is that you are wrong. ;)

ah, didn't know that. Oh well, on it goes then.

Forums are not run on democracy, they are under dictarorship with some elements of social equality. :nervous:

v3 Arcade - Games Arcade System for 3.5.1

i think the guys at vb.org don't like invision boards. that could be another reason for executing ibproarcade off the ballot.

And I am to do that how Jenta? :rolleyes:

"Attitudes like that" - Er, I gave you a way to do get your vote changed, the only way I can actually do it, and you don't like that option - There is little else I can do for you in that respect...

"Wow, I need to actually do some work and solve everyones problem in one shot as opposed to 200 people PMing you." - This kind of attitude by you shows that you really have no respect for me as a person, and ignoring the fact that I am not an Administrator (therefore unable to offer you any other avenue of achieving your goal personally), I offered the only way I could possibly change the votes of those who wished to re-vote - Next time, I won't be so generous as to take up my time to add a number to a vote count by editing the poll manually...

And aside from your beliefs, I again re-itterate that that is the only solution I can offer you...

You forget that I am a customer as well, probably at least 2 years before you were - While my moderator duties are representative of Jelsoft to a certain extent, what I offered, was a personal effort on my part to help users who wished to re-vote get their say...

As always, this post expresses my opinions and thoughts and not those of Jelsoft or the vBulletin.org staff...

Chris

or maybe the Queen of England said that Ibproarcade couldn't be voted for. Jelsoft is from England. I still trying to understand how an item of a ballet can be voided out.

Sitka,

I assure you there is no conspiracy behind this vote; the staff of vb.org has nothing against IPBProarcade. If you have a problem with the way things were handled you can contact one of the Admins, but you will just get the same answers that are found in this thread.

Actually, many of them are just run on anarchy. Which is why so many peeps are not accustomed to moderating their own behaviour in an online community.

I'm sure that doesn't apply to anyone here though. Everyone here is a webmaster that knows what it's like to deal with opposing demands and the pains and responsibilities of running a community, and making it thrive. Everyone here knows what it takes to make the best decision available and stick with it, right or wrong. Everyone here knows what it's like to spend much of your free time serving others only to have them slap you upside the head and publicly abuse you when they simply disagree. We're all in the same boat right?

maybe the New Year will bring better year on vb.org polls.

happy New Year!

ya know i been gone most of december untill january and come back to see alot of flaming and drama over these arcades the same thing that happened when they were launched, ya got one dude who keeps bringing up the paid support issue and then you got the iddue of zero pming someone. its hack of the month not like your gonna recieve a tin button and a gift certificate to dennys :P for winning. you hackers create these hacks for yourself and the community, and to all that install your work its appreciated, who really cares whos hack is th best for the month, Not i since i install everything that is fresh i dont prefer one arcade over another. or a google map over a rpg game. and so on, its all appreciated work. its getting cvhildish how most of the people who vote for ippro arcade criticise v3arcade when they make a comment. both creators and the other creators in this poll did good jobs. i am sorry to see a stupid rule as in spamming for votes disable a hack i care less if its 500 votes ahead or 500 behind, the point why shouldnt a hacker be able to tell the installers to vote for the hack if they like it ? or have it installed. this spam rule is Beyond retarded. i prefer v3arcade but i wouldnt complain if john or zero sent me a pm saying check out my hack or vote for it. its a free hack site theres a delete button and theres also a mind behind the vote. if zero sent me a pm saying dude my hack is the best of the best brotha and it needs a vote. that wont change my mind if i dont believe it is. i could see if in every post he made or he kept sending multi pms to everyone saying vote for me . but him sending 17 pms to people who helped him or even if they just installed it is no different then in there threads they had bold letters saying VOTE FOR ME. and no different then the members here seeing the poll and voting for who they prefer. Unless the admin and mods think everyone that come to this site are midless sheep who follow everything they read!!1

this poll is null and v3arcade now shouldnty even feal good about winning. its like the battle between fast food chains. Mcdonalds gets advertsing but now burgerking cant tell no one about there new bacon chedder whopper. but on busses you can see the Super big mac... by offering free stuff to this site and to the users they should have the right to pm the people who install there work. no matter the case, and there is no way u could stop john or anyone else for that matter from getting people to vote outside the site by aim yahoo websites or anything else.

the people who voted for ippro were not swayed by a pm. and therefore this poll is now garbage and mods are ruining more and more with there tripping on power.

spamming for proffit is one thing i shake my head at this decision and therefore care less about hack of the month from now on. not that it matters bvut it aint even worth having this type of stuff if your gonna shut down peoples hard work over a few emails pms or word of mouth,...

next presidential election just vote for the person who looks best dont listen to them dont read about them dont listen to the news since promoting a competition is not aloud

Thanks for starting it up again.

your welcome i didnt start anything up it be different if i came here when it started said something then came back and said more. but nope this is my first time seeing it its kinda sad no matter how u vote that one user who creates something gets disqualified .. specially unless i am missing something but there isnt a prize besides a graphic that says hack of the month winner

Have a read of post 101 and your answer may be there!

I pm you and you did not respond? Do not say pm anyone if you are not going to take or messages. It is your problem and not ours if you can not help those who ask then direct to who can... :laugh:

v3 Arcade - Games Arcade System for 3.5.1

I haven't recieved a PM from you...

Chris