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Corriewf 05-31-2005 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Greebo
Well, if its *easier* to make modifications, then one could at least hope that the hacks for 3.5.0 would begin pouring out at a much faster pace, I would think.


I didn't say your hypothesis was wrong. I am saying that it *isn't* warranted to make any claim in the positive OR negative until there is some kind of survey.

I then followed up by showing what my own personal bias leans towards. I did not extend my bias to the majority with speculation about who would and would not switch. All my statement about my own position shows is that at least one person will be switching.
I believe most upgrade happy people probably will upgrade. What will matter is if the coders will. Object oriented programming is easier to code on a large-scale project but in the realm of an individual coder its more time consuming and adds complexity to a previously simplistic environment.

My opinion as a consumer was warranted the day the release was detailed from vbulletin pertaining to a product that I may or may not utilize.

Erwin 06-01-2005 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Greebo
People say that about every software upgrade.

Personally, I think its foolish to make such blanket statements when we don't even have a beta out yet to look at.
In fact, people said that when vB2 became vB3. But most sites upgraded.

Marco van Herwaarden 06-01-2005 07:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greebo
Well, if its *easier* to make modifications, then one could at least hope that the hacks for 3.5.0 would begin pouring out at a much faster pace, I would think.
Nobody said it would be easier to create hacks. It will only be easier to implement and administer hacks that are using the plugin hooks and the Data Manager.

Greebo 06-01-2005 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcoH64
Nobody said it would be easier to create hacks. It will only be easier to implement and administer hacks that are using the plugin hooks and the Data Manager.
I agree that it won't take any less skill to design robust modifications. But I think it probably *will* be somewhat easier to create the modifications for the hack makers because they'll have clearly defined access points to start from.

Coding against a well doc'd API is always easier to work with than trying to modify source code directly.

Of course, the trade-off is - you're limited to what the API lets you have access to if you stick to only the API.

Corriewf 06-01-2005 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greebo
I agree that it won't take any less skill to design robust modifications. But I think it probably *will* be somewhat easier to create the modifications for the hack makers because they'll have clearly defined access points to start from.

Coding against a well doc'd API is always easier to work with than trying to modify source code directly.

Of course, the trade-off is - you're limited to what the API lets you have access to if you stick to only the API.

The bottom line is that its changing the code structure and adding more rules to the way it can be inserted to comply with the plug in system.

Right now its coding into whatever however within ethical range defined by the community of vbulletin.

flstreetscene 06-07-2005 01:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony G
Love 3.5, best improvement is the javascript refresh when posting. It's such a smart idea, I wonder why it didn't come up sooner? ;)
What does that mean? New posts will be shown without refreshing?

yoyoyoyo 06-07-2005 02:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flstreetscene
What does that mean? New posts will be shown without refreshing?
check out this flash file that explains the javascript AJAX goodies that are going to be in the next version:

http://files.vbulletin.com/3.5/ajax.html

Corriewf 06-07-2005 01:46 PM
I seen how they were double clicking on the box to edit the title. I have some java code installed that gives me the ability to click anywhere on the box to open a forum or thread. I guess that will be gone. :(

Dean C 06-07-2005 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flstreetscene
What does that mean? New posts will be shown without refreshing?
When making a new post it shows up instantly :)

mekro 06-07-2005 02:30 PM
Hi

Personally i look forward to the new upgrade with the new plugin system, after all remember when vb brought out 2-3 upgrades in 1-2 months period and everyone got upset that they had to upgrade then install mods again and again.

Basic fact is i would prefer it more just to overwrite the vb files instead of having to reinstall all mods again and again.

I guess as the saying goes you can't please everyone.


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