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Max Taxable 02-13-2015 09:06 PM

By the way the body count for The Spaminator across the five test sites is well over 8,000 kills, no wins by the spam, and no humans in any way interfered with or annoyed.
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Originally Posted by Spangle (Post 2537325)
Does it work with VB5 ?

To my knowledge that hasn't been explored yet. Certainly not at present, would have to be ported and that is IF it can be.

Right now it's working with 3.8.8 and 4.2.2

edgeless 02-13-2015 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2537333)
Has no effect on it whatsoever. And couldn't possibly. Tapatalk is enabled on two of the testing forums already for this, no issues at all.

So just to be clear, this means that on a forum with tapatalk's in-app member registration enabled, if Spaminator has been implemented and enabled as well, a tapatalk user will not be able to simply register and become a forum member via the in-app provision by merely entering a username, an email address and a password?

Max Taxable 02-13-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeless (Post 2537340)
So just to be clear, this means that on a forum with tapatalk's in-app member registration enabled, if Spaminator has been implemented and enabled as well, a tapatalk user will not be able to simply register and become a forum member via the in-app provision by merely entering a username, an email address and a password?

The Spaminator doesn't affect registration via Tapatalk in any way. With it or without it, no difference at all for the Tapatalk user.

Check it with your Tapatalk enabled phone, Here and Here.

IF the forum is set to where the TT user must use the vBulletin registration, there is no effect whatsoever, either.

edgeless 02-13-2015 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2537341)
The Spaminator doesn't affect registration via Tapatalk in any way. With it or without it, no difference at all for the Tapatalk user.

Then, despite the presence of Spaminator, what's to stop spammers from successfully registering via tapatalk's in-app forum registration and thus gaining thread creation/posting privileges? There must be something I'm not grasping here.

Max Taxable 02-13-2015 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeless (Post 2537342)
Then, despite the presence of Spaminator, what's to stop spammers from successfully registering via tapatalk's in-app forum registration and thus gaining thread creation/posting privileges? There must be something I'm not grasping here.

By default, TT uses StopForumSpam as a check on spammer registration via the app. So, let's say a spammer who isn't blacklisted by SFS does get through via TT. That is fine, the Human Spam moderation part of the Spaminator takes care of its spammy posts, if any.

IF the site has TT set to where the TT user must use the vBulletin registration form, same thing. If he is a human he will have no problems getting registered. Spaminator is designed to go totally unnoticed.

Because XRumer and other automated registration/posting systems allow IP and user agent spoofing, I am yet to see a actual spammer using a actual real mobile device, to spam. But, he's covered if he does - whether he gets registered via TT or by the native vB register form.

edgeless 02-14-2015 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2537343)
By default, TT uses StopForumSpam as a check on spammer registration via the app. So, let's say a spammer who isn't blacklisted by SFS does get through via TT. That is fine, the Human Spam moderation part of the Spaminator takes care of its spammy posts, if any.

IF the site has TT set to where the TT user must use the vBulletin registration form, same thing. If he is a human he will have no problems getting registered. Spaminator is designed to go totally unnoticed.

Because XRumer and other automated registration/posting systems allow IP and user agent spoofing, I am yet to see a actual spammer using a actual real mobile device, to spam. But, he's covered if he does - whether he gets registered via TT or by the native vB register form.

Okay. So there are currently no automated spamming apps (like XRumer) designed to register and commence spamming through mobile device plugins like tapatalk... And even if someone develops one, any attempted submission of a spam post after successful registration by such a bot would be acted upon by Spaminator forthwith. And any human, whether they have registered via vB or TT, would be similarly acted upon by Spaminator immediately upon an attempt at spam submission. So Spaminator apparently doesn't intervene on real humans (somehow it knows... via timing or whatever) at the member sign-up stage, but will in fact block attempted automatic registrations in addition to precluding any ability to submit spam posts. At least that's the way it sounds.

And yes, I've read that for a while now tapatalk has indeed been auto-checking email addys and IPs against the SFS database before granting registration. But if a spammer occasionally happens to acquire an unlogged IP and email address, and if said spammer happens to be a human who initially registers via TT's in-app system (perhaps uncommon but it could happen), that human spammer would obviously escape all of the vB sign-up screening measures. But never fear... Spaminator would still terminate that human's efforts to post any spam messages and presumably block them from any subsequent forum activities. I hope I'm understanding this correctly.

Thanks

Max Taxable 02-14-2015 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeless (Post 2537347)
Okay. So there are currently no automated spamming apps (like XRumer) designed to register and commence spamming through mobile device plugins like tapatalk... And even if someone develops one, any attempted submission of a spam post after successful registration by such a bot would be acted upon by Spaminator forthwith. And any human, whether they have registered via vB or TT, would be similarly acted upon by Spaminator immediately upon an attempt at spam submission. So Spaminator apparently doesn't intervene on real humans (somehow it knows... via timing or whatever) at the member sign-up stage, but will in fact block attempted automatic registrations in addition to precluding any ability to submit spam posts. At least that's the way it sounds.

And yes, I've read that for a while now tapatalk has indeed been auto-checking email addys and IPs against the SFS database before granting registration. But if a spammer occasionally happens to acquire an unlogged IP and email address, and if said spammer happens to be a human who initially registers via TT's in-app system (perhaps uncommon but it could happen), that human spammer would obviously escape all of the vB sign-up screening measures. But never fear... Spaminator would still terminate that human's efforts to post any spam messages and presumably block them from any subsequent forum activities. I hope I'm understanding this correctly.

Thanks

Other than, said human would never know it has been blocked or interfered with in any way, yeah.

ozzy47 02-14-2015 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spangle (Post 2537325)
Does it work with VB5 ?

Nope, no hooks.

Max Taxable 02-16-2015 11:12 PM

Spaminator broke the 10,000 kill mark with still, zero spam registration successes on the five testing sites and NO legitimate humans in any way annoyed or interfered with.

Still, not even a month operating.

ForceHSS 02-16-2015 11:53 PM

Still waiting for the pm dont see why it takes so long maybe I might just wait until the plugin is posted


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