Crap, I'm an idiot. I just found this part:

Still nothing but errors...I reluctantly put this one away...I had the lines above added FW, ($button values)

and that is what was giving the errors. I took them out, everything worked fine..put them back in, and it wiped out my acutal vb buttons...so, this pain in the ass hack is being put to pasture with its lackluster documentation.

Again, I thank you for your patience and help FW, i really do

I'm sorry we didn't get it to work. It's frustrating. I do know I have to get some sleep.

very frusterating.....
i cannot tell you in words how many times i have tried to get this thing to work, so there comes a time when you just have to say "fuc* it" lol...

ok, catch ya later, and again, thanks for the help.

Sleep....sounds like a good idea..