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Jessi 04-11-2007 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MicroHellas (Post 1224241)
Still waiting a responce to my request (https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....3&postcount=45), for a link to any installation to check the editor. Unfortunatelly I can't install the free version in my site as it will make conflists with my other installations.

ROFLMAO! I'm sorry, I thought you where joking. How can you tweak a product thats in Beta if you don't have a functioning copy? I am PMing you the info so you may see for yourself.

MaryTheG(r)eek 04-11-2007 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessi (Post 1224771)
ROFLMAO! I'm sorry, I thought you where joking. How can you tweak a product thats in Beta if you don't have a functioning copy? I am PMing you the info so you may see for yourself.

Simple, the product is not actual in Beta. It's already tested in commercial version. But as the free version is a reducted version, I placed "Beta" to have peace of my mind:D

MaryTheG(r)eek 04-11-2007 08:45 AM

Well, I apologize for the troubles on restrictions with HTML Editor, but I used in my life to trust what people are saying. When I did a deal with it's Author asking from him a special version to include in my Free mods, with only 3 restrictions, when he accepted it and delivered it to me, I didn't found a must to check it.

In any case I'll replace in 48h the Editor, with the same one but with the features that I promised enabled, or with another one, most probably TinyMCE.

Maria

Jessi 04-11-2007 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroHellas (Post 1224786)
Simple, the product is not actual in Beta. It's already tested in commercial version. But as the free version is a reducted version, I placed "Beta" to have peace of my mind:D

OK, That makes sense, I will wait for the fix then reinstall :-)

dizzy100 04-11-2007 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MicroHellas (Post 1223353)
Do I look like so rich to spend my money around without any special reason:confused: Hopefully not;) I asked vB.com if I can include vbEditor in my commercial mods without breaking the licence and they replied me "No, you can't". And please don't say me "why others do it?". It's their problem. I want to be legal, I asked and when I got the negative reply, I tried to find something else.

MMM thats weird as most use it. Its a module for vbulletin so how is that breaking their copyright by using their inbuilt editor ? Unless you wanted to modify their editor of course, which is entirely different.

It can't be used outside of vbulletin and integrates entirely and solely within vbulletin. Vbgeek uses the editor for instance and his stuff is entirely commercial.

Tulsa 04-11-2007 09:38 PM

I for one wish it would employ the vbulletin editor, you could have access to the bbcode that is sorely lacking in this products editor. The commercial editor handles html nicely enough but there is no way to block average joe from using html. Unless you block the entire user group from posting articles at all. A rather large security risk and setting the articles to force moderation is simply not practical with a large number of members.

ombossman 04-11-2007 10:56 PM

thanks mary we waiting vbDigiShop mod :)

MaryTheG(r)eek 04-12-2007 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzy100 (Post 1225321)
MMM thats weird as most use it. Its a module for vbulletin so how is that breaking their copyright by using their inbuilt editor ? Unless you wanted to modify their editor of course, which is entirely different.

It can't be used outside of vbulletin and integrates entirely and solely within vbulletin. Vbgeek uses the editor for instance and his stuff is entirely commercial.

Well, here are the details of Ticket: 594682 which I post at: Feb 08th '07 05:50am
........
Hello,
I want to know if using vb's internal editor in a commercial product for vBulletin (later I clarified that is an addon module), I'm breaking any rule of the licence.
Thanks
Maria Avlatzi

.........
and here is the reply that I got at: Feb 08th '07 06:53am
.........
Hello Maria,
Thank you for contacting vBulletin Support.
I am sorry but we can not allow for commercial re-use of our code-base.
All the best,
Marco van Herwaarden
Support Team, vBulletin
.........

So, no comments from my side. And if VbGeek or anybody esle is using it, it's up to them.

dizzy100 04-12-2007 06:08 AM

I think you need to clarify this openly in the vbulletin forums.

They may be under the assumption you are trying to do a fork or using the code for other projects as i really can't see why, using hooks, you couldn't use an editor that is already an intregal part of the system. Its the very reason hooks were created in the first place.

Your idea of using TinyMCE is a good one as its free and extensible, but i still would prefer to use the built in editor that comes with vbulletin. This editor is one of the many reasons i chose vb in the first place and using a third party to get the same job done is, in my book, a non starter.

This all sounds ungrateful mary and i assure you this isn't the case. Your mods are refreshing and new and fill a much needed gap. I like quite a few of them but will not purchase until a standard is set. To be honest with you, the editor your using now is just plain ugly and confusing for most of my members. Sure it will get the job done but sometimes approaching it from a different direction isn't what is required.

I'm sorry this third party has let you down with the editor but you've learned a lesson here that trusting people can only go so far. Also you really need to test both the free and commercial versions offline and keep both sets running so as to address issues reported like this. You can install apache pretty easy these days and most admins on here have a local copy of their system for testing mods etc.

Anyway i hope you can seek further clarity on using the vbulletin editor as i am very interested in some of your mods and would give them much further consideration if they could use a standard.

Good luck and keep them coming :)

One to consider BTW is a youtube type mod that allows you to locally show your videos with the option for members to upload their own.

Tulsa 04-12-2007 11:03 AM

Well I think you should push the issue with the vbulletin team. This mod would do much better with the built in editor that all of us have already purchased the rights to use in the first place. You're not selling their editor, you're simply making calls to it.


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