Anyone else bother reading the vb TOS ? I dont believe something like this can be hosted/centralized without violating the vb TOS. Im not sure about other message board systems. Getting Jelsoft to agree on this could be possible but I dont think it would be possible for them to agree to let this run with other message board systems.

It definaetly needs a bit of research :D

Our legal team is 100% certain our system in no way violates any TOS. Our code is written from scratch. There's just a small product that installed on your forum that redirects the profile to our system.

I'm not screaming anything. I'm simply stating I would pay without a second thought $500 or more for the work they have done in a stand-alone version. I got to see it in action last night and it is very impressive.

I know all about scriptlance, findacoder, etc, etc.. How many of them are hard-core vB programmers? They might be able to install vb, modify templates and install hacks/mods, but I would not trust them to code us a system like this that would interact with the userdb and permissions system of my forums. Then you would need people to update and support it over time. Would they be the one? Maybe for you but not me.

I have looked into getting someone to build a myspace clone, and there are even at least two companies I know of that offer pre-made clone scripts like this, but forum members have to register into a separate system to use it. The only system I am going to want is one that integrates with my vB system, and not one that is just patched together to work.

Well, in the (hopefully temporary) absence of the "big thread", at least there's some useful dialogue going on...

Hell, I'd like to see the "naysayers" consulted further, they can only make the product better.

Yup, if this system can do this and we could buy a sort of liscence for it, or else we have your ads or a image link or something. :D

i like the watered down free non centralized version myself, and the option for a full blown noncenrtalized version ( pay ), and then a full blown centralized version ( pay ) and a free version of the hacks that can be used by themselves, for example just a comments system.

so a lite, premium, and professional versions.

Hmm, interesting concept :)

The question isn't whether your product violates the TOS/License agreement of vBulletin, it's whether or not the development of a commercial product on vBulletin.org violates the TOS of vBulletin.org, which it clearly does.

No matter which way you flip it, this is a commercial product. It doesn't matter that the download will be free. The fact of the matter is that the network you envision will not exist without this modification, whether it be for vB boards or other board products, and the network is a commercial endeavor.

I believe that you are intending to use this as a product to help communities grow. Our opinions differ greatly in what end result will be, but that's irrelevant. You are using these boards to help develop a commercial product, and to recruit Beta testers for your commercial product. That's what the debate about the TOS violation revolves around.

Ok, so that is what it is worth to me :) , and you are right, it would probably be more financially sound to sell more quantity at a lower cost than few at a higher one.

There could always be additional modules for sale covering blogging, galleries, and more? Dunno, but it sounds like David and the rest of the team are now at least considering this. I don't think it is a threat at all to their original business model, which I am very confident will be successful on a large scale once fully implemented. I do think however with this option they will cover just about everyone else that wouldn't use the primary system.

People have hyped & love the big hacks/mods such as vBArcade, vBSEO, vBAdvanced, and many other paid and free hacks.. Well, I think (and with all due respect to those coders) something like this would eclipse them in usage in a very big way. The previous "vbSpace" thread that is now MIA clearly proved that, and at the speed this one is growing, I think it is clear how badly people want a serious social networking addition to their communities.. I have done polls in my largest community and they are hot for it along with blogs and the rest of the features.. I've lost out to myspace for too long and so has everyone else with a community.

One way or another, I am pretty sure we will have both options in the very near future.. I know where the central one is coming from and it is sweet... Not sure yet on the stand-alone, but I hope it will be similar and I know of at least two different people (or groups) that have now jumped into gear on bring that to life.


Great news!
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