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Freesteyelz 05-29-2006 08:59 PM

Oooo. Daft Punks' "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" is the jam. Nice one, TruthElixirX. :) We can get to Chuck D later too. :classic:

*Speaking of Cat Stevens (Yusuf Islam), well he's not the best example of promoting positive music. He was after all banned from the U.S. for supporting terrorism and promoting anti-government activities.

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Originally Posted by smacklan
I think music is a reflection of society...

It is but like with anything else there are different ways to express it. Music is no different. For example!

Quote:

Just throw your hands in the air!
And wave 'em like you just don't care!
If you came to have a good time tonight,
somebody say 'Ohh yeah'!
A lot of rap artists used this bridge to move party goers. The lyrics had a positive message. While the song below was not the first rap song, it was the first rap song to hit the national scene:

Rapper's Delight (click to review the lyrics)

It was over a 15 minute of non-stop, partying record. The rhymes were dropped over the samples of Chic's "Good Times". The lyrics weren't the best but the vibe of the song made you want to get up and dance. It was feel good music...And this is how it all began.

There's much more to the Old School days and if continue onward we can tap into the era of the Conscience and Stop The Violence Movement.

TruthElixirX 05-29-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Freesteyelz
Oooo. Daft Punks' "Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger" is the jam. Nice one, TruthElixirX. :) We can get to Chuck D later too. :classic:

Don't get to excited, first and foremost I'm a metal head. :cool:

Freesteyelz 05-29-2006 09:44 PM

Satanist! Hehe. JK. :D

Scrolls 05-30-2006 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelle
Totally agreed ;)



You are wrong on that. I'm 20 and I love classic rock and many people I know that are 20 or even less do so too. ;)

A rap/hip-hop "song" even if it has good lyrics (which I highly doubt) it has terrible "music". Rock has both great lyrics AND music. ;)


ahaha, word. yea, i grew up around rap and hiphop...i lived in the ghetto as a very small child...lol. so, thats what i adapted to.....:).

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Originally Posted by KTBleeding
Wow.. obviously the majority of you guys aren't musicians.. yeesh.

actually i am. ;). ive been writing songs and bouncing them to beats since i was younger.

and no, not all rap is about promoting violence. will smith doesnt cuss in his lyrics, or attack anyone. hes a rapper. your thinking of "gangster rap" as freestyles stated. ice cube, nwa, etc....were trying to tell yall that not all rap is the same...alot of underground rappers bring alot of different stuff to the tables, not talking about burning a cat or drive-by shootings. and the people that live nextdoor to my work stand outside all day listening to rock and roll LOUD as can be and start trouble all the time...thats like saying if u watch a friday the 13th movie ur going to turn into jason and murder all. lol. ive listened to the hardest rap and im still the nicest kid....aint change me none. all rock is to me is a guy with loud music saying his girlfriends name over and over....lol. but i dont say that...dont hate on it if u dont understand the culture. period. :)

Boofo 05-30-2006 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TruthElixirX
Not all rap music glorifies violence. You're being very generic.

No, I'm not being generic. Most maintream Rap is vioent. Sure, there might be a few off-shoots from the mainstream, that don't advocate violence (although I have yet to here any that don't).

TruthElixirX 05-30-2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofo
No, I'm not being generic. Most maintream Rap is vioent. Sure, there might be a few off-shoots from the mainstream, that don't advocate violence (although I have yet to here any that don't).

No, just because it is main stream doesn't mean it is the largest branch. Popular != largest.

You want some? Check out J-5, Public Enemy, Fort Minor, Will Smith, The Roots, need I name more?

Boofo 05-30-2006 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TruthElixirX
No, just because it is main stream doesn't mean it is the largest branch. Popular != largest.

You want some? Check out J-5, Public Enemy, Fort Minor, Will Smith, The Roots, need I name more?

No, you go ahead. If I want to listen to talking, I'll just make a phone call. :)

Paul M 05-30-2006 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Freesteyelz
Rapping is a rhythmic flow of vocalization that overlays a 4/4 musical pattern similar to rock.

In other words, someone talking over a tune (or sort of tune) ........ :banana:

TruthElixirX 05-30-2006 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofo
No, you go ahead. If I want to listen to talking, I'll just make a phone call. :)

Exactly, I beat you on one front and instead of admiting it, you just switch to a completely different thing.

davidw 05-30-2006 10:36 PM

I've listened to most everything out there (almost every genre - including oldies ... no not 70s oldies, but 40s, and 50s oldies). I've listened every generation's style of what was considered "rock." I've listened to jazz, soul, rap, r&b, hip-hop, blues, country, bluegrass, instrumental, classical, rock, alternative, christian, gospel, most anything out there - I've listened to or at least sampled. I can't truly say that anything really stands out that has truly made an impact as a song by itself. However, when paired with an emotion, then we have a different outlook. Such as Wind of Change (Scorpions) when the wall came down, things of that nature - that's what makes an impact. It's not the music itself, but the association of the music to the emotion. I'm not an expert on music, but this is my opinion. ~Snarf lol


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