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bashy 06-04-2006 07:48 PM

Yeah i think most have this issue...i also would love to know how to enable a censor option :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mano1.com
that's the one... It was on my previous server which was slow so maybe that was just it.

BTW off-topic but how do you enable censorship on vBshout 2.0??? People can post any word they want right now and I am a bit puzzled...

THANKS!


Boofo 06-04-2006 07:58 PM

vBShout is also very server intensive, but then I think that was already mentioned in here.

sambah 06-05-2006 01:36 AM

vBPager seems to hit my quad cpu machine a little

bairy 06-11-2006 11:21 AM

I've just skimmed the entire thread and there's one thing I didn't see anyone mention though I may simply have missed it:

As well as cpu load, hundreds of plugins will also increase memory load a LOT.
1. The datastore caches all the plugins and the datastore is loaded per pageload.
2. The templates cached will take more memory.


Bashy I don't know if you're still reading this thread but if you are may I give you some fresh advice based on how it looks right now...

The portal is cute. I do like the icons. But:
- Live help? Help for what?
- There's a clock. I have a clock in the bottom right on the taskbar so I'm not sure why that's there. Just unnecessary bandwidth and clutter IMHO
- You might want to get rid of the TAZ review off the front page, it's months old and not really relevant.
- The description of the site is good. Not sure about the need for italics though tbh.
- For some reason it's telling me what my browser is. Is that in case I've forgotten?


Going into the forum itself:
Lets start with the time and size:
vB says: Page generated in 0.61149 seconds with 31 queries
MKPortal says: Page generated in 0.03834 seconds with 6 queries
So that's 0.64 secs on 37 queries.

Including images the index is 168kb big. That's 40 secs on 56k. I hope you have gzip on.

I don't know how many are online. If it's a low number and takes 0.64, lets hope you never get a high number!

Also, it took 18 seconds to actually download and render the index page on the browser, not including graphics.
I don't know if that's down to page complexity or a slow upload pipe. I can download the data for the page in about half a second.
18 seconds on any website is a lifetime. And that's on a 2800+ processor and firefox. Anyone still on a 1.*ghz processor could be waiting up to a minute.
Even Opera (which is uber fast at rendering) takes 14 secs.



Again you have live help and a clock on the left. Screen clutter.

Upon loading the page the very first thing I see is blue bolded comic sans scrolling text.
Yes. I don't see the navbar, the lastest threads info box or anything else. I see scrolling text, and on a scale of 1-10 annoying, it's an 8. And I'm not even sure what's scrolling across. It looks like a list of all the threads...

There's also a second scroller which is telling me something about referring people. Two things:
1. Scrollers are hard to read because they move several pixels in every frame. Buggered if I know why the browsers didn't smooth that out.
2. Why would I refer someone to the site before I'd even seen it myself. If it has to be there, make it a members only fad.


I don't know why people put latest threads and stats at the top. If you really must have it at the top, have it there for members only. Guests don't generally care what the latest threads are before they've seen the forum list.

It's nearly an entire pagedrop to the actual forums and it's 3-4 more to view them all. That's a lot. I appreciate that you have the moderators on and you have vertical subforums and they're making the cell heights taller, but 4 is still a long way down.

The red "warning text" looks horrible on the blue, it's hard to read.


The style's quite pleasant and things are laid out okay. Though I'm really not sure why the page has been mounted inside the MKPortal wrapper, the left bar only goes a third of the way down and is a bit pointless really. I know the intro says there are more side blocks on registration - I hope they're useful.

The lounge looks relatively busy, lets open that:
MKP: Page generated in 0.03706 seconds with 6 queries
Page generated in 0.43833 seconds with 24 queries
Render time: 10 secs.

Loading the countdown thread:
0.7 secs generation
13 secs download + render, and 491k downloaded, including images. I'm glad I'm not bandwidth restricted!

The postbits are HUGE, I mean really really big. And because you have 6 pets too you're post takes up nearly two browser pages. Holy crap!


To give you an accurate idea, even the error page takes 5 secs to render, and there's hardly anything to it! I think it's the MKPortal wrapper TBH.


I haven't gone into the content of the forums or threads any of that, I'm just commenting on the way it looks. If I was visiting your forum, the scrolly text, the enormous scroll on the index page and the relatively slow pageload and very slow render times would make me say "ouch, my eyes hurt and my browser is crying. I'm not visiting here again".


Sorry dude, I applaud your stamina but daaaamn your site is slow :(

lazytown 08-15-2006 02:00 AM

The "thankyou" mod killed my server. He updated it to improve perfomance, but it's still very intensive.

-vissa

Mudvayne 08-17-2006 07:05 AM

I like this thread.. Have some thing to learned.. Newayz here is my portal n forumhome.. I wud like to request Zachery to comments on it :)

vBA Porta: http://www.golpo.net
Quote:

Page generated in 0.43495 seconds with 19 queries [Server Loads: 1.16 0.88 : 0.93]
[Output: 58.94 Kb. compressed to 57.97 Kb. by saving 0.97 Kb. (1.64%)]
Forum: http://www.golpo.net/forum
Quote:

Page generated in 1.25667 seconds with 22 queries [Server Loads: 0.62 0.89 : 1.06]
[Output: 96.75 Kb. compressed to 92.91 Kb. by saving 3.84 Kb. (3.97%)]
I have installed near abt 100 hackes on my site before.. Then the query was 23.. Now may b I'm using 75+ hacks in my site.. I have disable signature view for guests.. I have TopXStats installed but disabled for guest.. I have made every change in my site myself.. Please make ur comments.. Any suggestion 'll gladly accepted :).. I never installed vB pager or vB shoutbox.. Even not for admin.. Thats why we hav Staff Lounge ;).. N I beleive in forum shoutbox can decrease user's activities.. I don't like the post thank you hack.. Thats why we have default reputation comments system.. Just removed vBGooglemap few dayz ago as I found none of my members r inrterested on it.. I have vBPlaza installed on my site.. But I removed gifts n ribbons from postbit as user can view these from their profile :).. Also have installed ibProArcade n again removed games n tournament chap news from postbit as user can view it in arcade home :p..

Edit: I just use 301 redirect my root to my forum root ;).. So no cmps available right now..

syrus.xl 09-03-2006 12:16 PM

Just noticed on bashy's website an animated advert - nice advert if it the effect was done in flash, the file size would be much smaller.

But as it stands its nearly a 500k GIF file!!:confused: :speechless:

Zachery 09-03-2006 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy
I like this thread.. Have some thing to learned.. Newayz here is my portal n forumhome.. I wud like to request Zachery to comments on it :)

vBA Porta: http://www.golpo.net

Forum: http://www.golpo.net/forum

I have installed near abt 100 hackes on my site before.. Then the query was 23.. Now may b I'm using 75+ hacks in my site.. I have disable signature view for guests.. I have TopXStats installed but disabled for guest.. I have made every change in my site myself.. Please make ur comments.. Any suggestion 'll gladly accepted :).. I never installed vB pager or vB shoutbox.. Even not for admin.. Thats why we hav Staff Lounge ;).. N I beleive in forum shoutbox can decrease user's activities.. I don't like the post thank you hack.. Thats why we have default reputation comments system.. Just removed vBGooglemap few dayz ago as I found none of my members r inrterested on it.. I have vBPlaza installed on my site.. But I removed gifts n ribbons from postbit as user can view these from their profile :).. Also have installed ibProArcade n again removed games n tournament chap news from postbit as user can view it in arcade home :p..

Edit: I just use 301 redirect my root to my forum root ;).. So no cmps available right now..

Get rid of that stupid page compression hack, thats what gzips for, let it do its job.

Code Monkey 09-03-2006 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachery
Get rid of that stupid page compression hack, thats what gzips for, let it do its job.

Yeah, those are such a waste of resources to do something that is already done better.

People don't realize what gzip or mod_deflate do because the browser recodes it back to its original code. But trust me, they send the data without all the spaces and such.

Mudvayne 09-03-2006 05:15 PM

I do not use any page compression hack.. I just use Orban's plugin based template cache.. Also I've installed mod_gzip on my server.. The addons is just awesome.. Saving 77% minimum :D:D:D..


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