Suggestion for next update:

One thing that I would like to see added is a notification email to the user recieving the feedback. Not only does this let them know someone else submitted a feedback for them but it will also encourage that person to complete a feedback as well so that both parties gets a feedback. To many times only one party takes the time to submit a feedback. Many simply forget so the email could also act as a reminder.

Another thing would be a listing page that would show all the users with lets say above 25 points, 15 points, etc.

OK, well, just for argument's sake I ran the upgrade script even though I had run the newest clean install script from scratch, and low and behold, both profiles and the ratings pages now work. Well, except I still can't view either my own profile or my own rating (but I know that's OK not to it's just being unable to see my entire profile that has me scratching my head). But, my being able to view others' profiles and ratings now is an improvement from where I was last week, so I'm still happy. LOL.

The only thing still not working at all is Currently Active Users Online. Any ideas for that one?

Still getting my problems above if anyone can help me out

I am thinking about installing this script but unsure if i should do this because I am on VB 3.0.3. Does Trader Ratings v1.1.0 work with VB 3.0.3?

I would appreciate the answer.

Thanks

Yes it works with 3.0.3

It seems that after I installed this whenever I try to make a New Thread it does not show up in the post count but If I reply to that thread or any thread it will count toward the post count. I think it might have something to do with the Post bit template or something that i changed, I do have the trader rating below the post count so i think that might be the problem

odd, it seems to be working now. nvmd

On the feedback page the text on the right ...warning etc is there any way to move this say underneath or all together as my board is a fixed width and this ruins it

Yeah, just adjust the tratings_feedback template to your liking... I've seen some smaller fixed width forums stick the text above or below the main feedback box.

I'm still having my problems, too.


Can anyone please help me out??? I'm running 3.0.3

If you have installed other hacks that modify either of those, then I'm sorry but I can't help you out there. My hack is very simplistic and uses default vB variables for generatig most of the data.

{sigh} :( I was afraid you were gonna say that. Oh well, I guess I'll have to uninstall/revert back. Thanks anyway!

Is there anyway to click under the username or something to actually leave feedback, the only way I been doing it is by clicking on the users trader rating number. Hoping to put like an icon or summit somewhere.

And how what file do I edit to add it so they need to enter a URL when doing a trade/sale. And can I speify that it has to come from a specific Forum

Watson

very nice.

You will have to be more specific when you say "click under their username to leave feedback". What page are you talking about? A screenshot would help. The reason I have the "leave feedback" info on the TR page is so that people see the rest of the info on the page too.

As for making URLs required, there is only one php file to edit (traderratings.php), just change (in two places):

to

Also you might want to edit the template to show that it is a requried field. However keep in mind that right now I don't do any URL checking, so they could enter totally bogus info and it wouldn't know any better.

Thanks for that mate :D

The bit I am meaning is the bit highlighted here mate. Its the only way a user can leave feedback for my other users is by clicking on that. Is there any way to add an add feedback bit somewhere.

Also, how do I make it for a certain user group only.

Watson

Sure you can make a "leave feedback" link anywhere... Just look at the URL structure in the TR template and put it wherever you please...

For a specific usergroup, look in the included TXT file, there is a function called is_member_of() or something similar.

Is there some kind of stats page, where you can view people with top ratings and things like thats?

No, that will be in the next update though. However right now I'm in the process of trying to find a job, so I have put all my projects like this on hold.

BTW, this has been asked and answered several times before, please use the "search this thread" option at the top, most people are starting to get really repetitive in their questions.

my bad. Good luck on finding a job though :)

Hello

this is a wonderful hack. :)

I would like to ask a question and I hope this is not stupid to ask ... but is there a way that I can delete the buyer/seller columns? I just ask because we don't buy or sell, just trade and this system would be perfect for us. If you or anyone can tell me how I can modify the hack to achieve a trades only function, I'd be overly happy. :)

Thank you in advance for any help :)

Well there are several things you can remove if you want to make it the most efficient, however to keep it simple (and make upgrades easier), I would just modify the template where you submit a new rating, remove the buy/sell/trade dropdown and make trade a hidden form field. You can also modify the display template to remove the extra buy/sell stuff.

Jason, in your templates.txt you wrote:

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NOTE: If you only want specific user groups to use the ratings, you will also
need to modify the traderratings.php code to prevent users from getting
to the feedback page through manual URLs (unlikely, but possible). This feature will be fully implemented in the next version (if you don't want to modify the php file).
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would you please be so kind and explain me how to do that exactly, if possible in "find: x and replace with: y style" and tell me how to do that for one usergroup as well as for several usergroups.

I didn't manage to restrict access to traderratings in the postbit and memberinfo templates to one or several usergroups only. so we helped us out in limiting access to user profiles for these groups and adding the link to traderratings only in the memberinfo template.

Seems like I'm not the only one who didn't understand how to do that...thanks for explaining us!

Yeah I am hoping just for a forum to be used for my ratings, and not a usergroup. so they have to do it that way.

Also Jason mate, I aint exactly sure, but how would I put in a leave Feedback image or something in the Postbit?

This is a little off topic but I think we should all discuss this.

As you all know, this script is a honor based system, so there is no way to know if the rating is valid unless we can somehow track the transaction. So I would like to throw in the topic of Verification. Lets give your best shot.

My idea would be:

1. To some how have a Credit card verification included in the script. Something like what has been used in the adult sites to verify age. This verificaiton will be used for people who want to participate in the rating system. This way you have a way of telling if the rater is not a fictitous person because some people may abuse the system to make themselves look better than the others by getting multiple id's. If you have a verification built in, one person can rate only rate others not himself.

2. What do you think about verifying a transaction by asking a few questions to verify transaction did take place. Like the amount of transaction. Now, if asking the buyer the transaction amount found and asking the seller transaction amount found do not match, it will be seen as a fictitious transaction and will not be allowed to record the "RATING".

I think verification is the only way to do this. As a matter of fact, AMAZON.com just announced that they are going to implement the credit card verification to make sure the reviewr of their products are the people they say they are.

Lets discuss.

hasan2k - I'm not going to do CC verification, there are even ways around that, but also it would remove a large portion of younger people who don't have a CC, and also a lot of people who wouldn't feel comfortable submitting that info to a smaller site. I trust Amazon and do have my CC on file there for purchases, but I wouldn't trust Joe Bob's Fishing Forum to hold my CC info because I don't know how secure their software is, nor do I trust what they might do with it.

I was considering doing some sort of PayPal verification thing, however all my attempts in talking to PayPal about any sort of API to query if a person is PayPal verified have been returned with extremely unhelpful canned responses.

User / Transaction verification has been discussed before several times in this thread (try sifting through the pages or searching, I don't remember what post #'s they were). There was even discussion about linking users to a thread (by creating a buy/sell button) and then only letting them rate each other. But a lot of "what if" issues were brought up that would make the hack so complicated that it was determined that it would just make more sense to write a hack from the ground up that did what people wanted... an auction/classifieds add-on.

So that's what I'm doing. Well, actually two things. I'm working on a cross-forum capable version of Trader Ratings, and also the auction/classified system (that of course ties into trader ratings). This will bring about a "verifiable deal" in the sense that you have an actual page to view who the buyer & seller and item and price and whatnot were, but also allow "unverifiable" transactions based on good faith (like the current TR operates now). But all this will take some time as I've only got two hands and very little spare time at the moment.

This hack was intended to be simple and solve a common dilemma. I'm not big into hacking up 20 vBulletin files, only to have to re-do it all every time there is a new release. I prefer to keep things separate and minimal.

This hack solved the common issue I've seen a lot of forums do where they just had a thread that a person had to maintain where they listed who dealt with who... It was archiac and not really that informative. My hack (in its current state) is by no means perfect, but it is a step in the right direction by having an automated system that is user friendly.

Problem: the trader ratings thing goes outside of my template edge. (Here is a link: http://www.dsites.net/vb/traderratings.php?u=1 ). Is there any way to make it go inside the template edges?

Thanks for your answer. Either way this is a great hack. BUT, if you do get the time to put the verification in place somehow, there will be a commercial prospect to this script. I know I will be first in line to pay.

Problem just some table withs conflicting with your custom design... There's only 3 TR templates... ;) Feel free to fidgit with the HTML...

I didn't see any HTML tables in the traderratings.php file.

Templates are not in the PHP file... They are in the AdminCP under whatever style you installed them as...

tratings_display
tratings_feedback
tratings_listbits

I just changed the 100% to 80% on all three, and the only thing that happened was that it shrunk the table directly under the navbar, not the entire thing.

Hello Jason. I finally installed this great hack. First, thank you for providing this to the community.

I have modified it for my needs as we don't allow buying or selling. We only allow free trading. So, I have modified it but now have a small problem left.

I would like to remove the "From" table row from the feedback tables. It should only display the date but now the date is in the FROM table for some reason. Below I attached a screenshot. It would be great if you could point me to where I can do this. I know this is an extra wish since I deleted a few options. but I hope you don't mind. Thanks a ton! :)

Look in the tratings_display template... There is actually a pretty extensive if/else structure because of how it was handling all the various feedback views so you can probably tidey it up some since you removed the buying/selling.

However, if you remove the "from" field, how will a person know who rated them? IMO you might want to double think about removing it.

I would tidy it up if I knew anything about php which I don't. lol

I'd love to keep the "From" field, but I must have messed up the code that is needed to display the "from". I have no clue where to change this. :(

THis is great,but shouldn't it be with some store or auction hack?
What are you guys using with it.

My forums B/S/T section.

I had version 1.0.0 of this installed with vB 3.0.1.
I upgraded to vB 3.0.3, uploaded the new traderratings.php and ran the upgrade script. Clicke a couple of 'proceed type' buttons and got
I've tried re-running the script but it crashes out with another error.
Is my system fooked?

I made a few little template additions to my site to help better promote the trade rating system, you can see them in action at www.scubaboard.com/forumdisplay.php?f=213 (view any thread). To add this to your site you need to make just two small changes.

1) modify your phpinclude_start template by adding the following code (each number is the ID of a classified forum)

2) modify your postbit or postbit_legacy template by finding

before this add
This will show the user's trade rating status in the default colors with a link to leave them feedback. If you make any improvements please post them back here. Also, I did not use language phrases to keep this simple, if you want to add them yourself it's not hard but I can help if you need.

This is an amazing addon and I can't wait to see what comes of it... thank you!

good hack!

one thing tho, how could i make it so if someone has a rating of 0 with no ratings for negative or positive then in the post bit the trader ratings isnt there?

i have a ton of members and not that many really trade