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vbresults 06-20-2011 12:27 PM

2.0 is out!!!111!!eleven

stained, 2.0 addresses the no permission screen problem.

On another note, man, we are getting crushed in the polls..! :x

stained 06-20-2011 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2210387)
2.0 is out!!!111!!eleven

stained, 2.0 addresses the no permission screen problem.

On another note, man, we are getting crushed in the polls..! :x

You nailed it :) Working perfectly in 4.1.4. Thanks very much for the update :up:


Edit: voted :up:

BadgerDog 06-20-2011 01:16 PM

Installed 2.0 for testing on 4.13 development board .... :up:

This mod gets better and more user definable with each release ... thanks for your efforts .. :)

We aren't using it as a spam filter, as much as an opportunity to perhaps gain incremental revenue early in the sign up process, to help off-set the costs of operating our not-for-profit site.

For that purpose alone, this mod has some excellent potential which when we go live, we'll share our "before" and "after" experiences here in using it.

Regards,
Doug

ps: BTW, we voted and nominated it, as well as rated it at the top ....

pss: great idea to add the user option to position the FREE sign-up option to the top. We were going to ask for that as well.

Mark4865 06-20-2011 01:32 PM

Genius as always, appreciate the great effort and fantastic support

Manoel J?nior 06-20-2011 11:16 PM

Bro':

File Type: product-lancerforhire_paid_registration-1.3-legacy.xml

Please, update for vB3.8

Thanks

BadgerDog 06-21-2011 09:28 PM

This seems to test fine, so we're getting ready to move this from development forum to our 4.1.3 "live" forums ... ;)

Anyone have any feedback on 2.0 with lots of real world live users registering?

Regards,
Doug

HouseAddict 06-22-2011 02:48 AM

I don't get one thing - why does the registration template page go back to default VB style (the out of the box one) with this mod enabled?

How do I get this plugin to NOT overwrite my customized style ("header" template, additional.css, etc) with the default one?

This is really annoying...

stained 06-22-2011 06:58 AM

I'm getting emails entitled "Mail Delivery System - Mail Failure - Malformed Recipient Address" like the one below after someone hits the Paid Option button at registration (the free registration option is working perfectly):

A message that you sent contained one or more recipient addresses that were
incorrectly constructed:

DO NOT EDIT THIS USER: missing or malformed local part (expected word or "<")

This address has been ignored. There were no other addresses in your
message, and so no attempt at delivery was possible.

------ This is a copy of your message, including all the headers. ------

To: DO NOT EDIT THIS USER
Subject: Action Required to Activate Membership for xxxxxx Forum
From: "xxxxxx Forum" <webmaster@xxxxxx.com>
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
Return-Path: webmaster@xxxxxx.com
Message-ID: <20110621230434.0274644a24fd@www.xxxxxx.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: vBulletin Mail via PHP
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:04:34 +0100

Dear Pending Subscription 3,

Thank you for registering at the xxxxxx Forum. Before we can activate your account one last step must be taken to complete your registration.

Please note - you must complete this last step to become a registered member. You will only need to visit this URL once to activate your account.

To complete your registration, please visit this URL:
http://www.xxxxxx.com/forum/register...0&i=xxxxxxxxxx

<a href="http://www.xxxxxx.com/forum/register.php?a=act&u=1320&i=xxxxxxxxxx">America Online Users Please Visit Here to be Activated</a>

**** Does The Above URL Not Work? ****
If the above URL does not work, please use your Web browser to go to:
http://www.xxxxxx.com/forum/register.php?a=ver

Please be sure not to add extra spaces. You will need to type in your username and activation number on the page that appears when you visit the URL.

Your Username is: Pending Subscription 3
Your Activation ID is: xxxxxxxxxx

If you are still having problems signing up please contact a member of our support staff at webmaster@xxxxxx.com

All the best,
xxxxxx Forum


This is the third so far. Any ideas? I put the 'xxxxx' everywhere by the way. The original emails all have the full activation codes/email addresses obviously.

BadgerDog 06-22-2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stained (Post 2211206)
I'm getting emails entitled "Mail Delivery System - Mail Failure - Malformed Recipient Address" like the one below after someone hits the Paid Option button at registration (the free registration option is working perfectly):

Before we go "live" with 2.0, can anyone confirm this as a general problem, or something unique to stained's site? :confused:

Since we've not been able to test our development board with someone actually using the PayPal setup to completion, we can't try and duplicate this...

Thanks .. :)

Regards,
Doug

vbresults 06-22-2011 12:08 PM

The issue stained has encountered is a bug in the product, but it is harmless. vB is trying to send the ghost user an activation email but the ghost user does not have a real email address, so you end up with this. It does not change functionality in any way, that is why I said it is harmless. That said, the issue is being fixed in the next version which is being released later on today.

BadgerDog 06-22-2011 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2211267)
The issue stained has encountered is a bug in the product, but it is harmless. vB is trying to send the ghost user an activation email but the ghost user does not have a real email address, so you end up with this. It does not change functionality in any way, that is why I said it is harmless. That said, the issue is being fixed in the next version which is being released later on today.

Thanks ... :up:

We just installed and turned v2.0 on with "live" 4.1.3 site .... :)

We normally get 16+ registrations per day, so we have out fingers crossed nothing blows up ... :D

Regards,
Doug

stained 06-22-2011 01:41 PM

That's reassuring to know Lancer. Thanks :up: Just so that I fully understand how a paid registration works (in case anyone on my forum contacts me to say that he/she is having problems) is this how it functions?:

they click on the paid option at registration and are forwarded directly to Paypal (this happens on my forum - the user is not prompted to enter any details but is forwarded straight to Paypal). Once payment is complete they are then automatically returned(?) to the forum where they then continue with the registration process. They then wait for the activation email (if that option is set in vb admincp) and after activating their account they then change from being 'Pending Subscription' to their selected username and can begin to use the forum.

I only ask because if I don't have auto-return set in my Paypal account how does the user continue with registration when he presses the back button to get back to the forum? He won't necessarily know what to do next and how will the forum know that he is the person who just paid? Or to put it another way, how does he tell the forum that he just paid and wishes now to continue with registration?

If I have auto-return on which URL should I set to take the user back to where he was so that he can continue with registration? Also, if I set a URL sending the payer back to registration it will totally confuse any members who are simply upgrading their accounts through 'settings' ==> 'paid subscriptions'.

I'm confused but I'm sure you'll have a logical answer :)

vbresults 06-22-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stained (Post 2211299)
That's reassuring to know Lancer. Thanks :up: Just so that I fully understand how a paid registration works (in case anyone on my forum contacts me to say that he/she is having problems) is this how it functions?:

they click on the paid option at registration and are forwarded directly to Paypal (this happens on my forum - the user is not prompted to enter any details but is forwarded straight to Paypal). Once payment is complete they are then automatically returned(?) to the forum where they then continue with the registration process. They then wait for the activation email (if that option is set in vb admincp) and after activating their account they then change from being 'Pending Subscription' to their selected username and can begin to use the forum.

I only ask because if I don't have auto-return set in my Paypal account how does the user continue with registration when he presses the back button to get back to the forum? He won't necessarily know what to do next and how will the forum know that he is the person who just paid? Or to put it another way, how does he tell the forum that he just paid and wishes now to continue with registration?

If I have auto-return on which URL should I set to take the user back to where he was so that he can continue with registration? Also, if I set a URL sending the payer back to registration it will totally confuse any members who are simply upgrading their accounts through 'settings' ==> 'paid subscriptions'.

I'm confused but I'm sure you'll have a logical answer :)

There is no activation email; the reason for this has been explained in the last question in the FAQ. Aside from that, you have it down.

I am not sure what auto return setting you are talking about; the script sets a page to return to automatically. The next visit to the forum will automatically take the visitor to the registration form where they can fill out their username, password, email, etc.

You do not have to turn anything on. :)

stained 06-22-2011 03:01 PM

There's that logical answer :) Thanks very much. I'm on tenterhooks actually. I had a member join 20 minutes ago who went for the paid option but I don't know whether he went through your mod to pay or whether he upgraded through 'settings' ==> 'paid subscriptions'. Sitting here now waiting for him to get back to me.

PS: by 'activation email' I mean the one a user receives from vb if I set 'verify email address during registration'

vbresults 06-22-2011 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stained (Post 2211345)
There's that logical answer :) Thanks very much. I'm on tenterhooks actually. I had a member join 20 minutes ago who went for the paid option but I don't know whether he went through your mod to pay or whether he upgraded through 'settings' ==> 'paid subscriptions'. Sitting here now waiting for him to get back to me.

PS: by 'activation email' I mean the one a user receives from vb if I set 'verify email address during registration'

Yes, I know what you mean by activation email and there is none if you sign up with paid registration. If you can make a payment with whatever payment processor is used, it is safe to assume that your account is legitimate.

stained 06-22-2011 03:53 PM

Okay thanks. That makes perfect sense.

BadgerDog 06-22-2011 04:21 PM

Well, so far I've had no registrations, free or otherwise, since I installed 2.0 .... :p

What's that old expression ... "a watched kettle never boils" ... :D

Regards,
Doug

HouseAddict 06-22-2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HouseAddict (Post 2211152)
I don't get one thing - why does the registration template page go back to default VB style (the out of the box one) with this mod enabled?

How do I get this plugin to NOT overwrite my customized style ("header" template, additional.css, etc) with the default one?

This is really annoying...

anyone?

why does this plugin, when activated, reset my header template to default?

vbresults 06-22-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HouseAddict (Post 2211404)
anyone?

why does this plugin, when activated, reset my header template to default?

Url? If you don't want to post it here, PM me. :)

BadgerDog 06-23-2011 10:39 AM

Well, we've been running live now for about 24 hours ? :up:

In that period, we've had one successful registration, which was of the FREE type. I assume that validates that the FREE registration process we've always used (vBulletin default) is still working as the user would have had to fill in the registration form and then acknowledge the Activate Membership email he would have automatically received from our vBulletin 4.1.3 setup?

What I find suprising is the drop in registration activity. Up until we installed the mod, we were getting over 16 FREE registrations every 24 hours, so to drop to 1 is startling. I wonder if the fact that there's a "pay" option appearing at the top of the new registration screen above the FREE option is scaring off people? Perhaps they don't take the time to read past that option down to the free registration sign-up at the bottom underneath it?

Anyway, I think I'll give it a few more days and then I might try to move the free registration to the top and change the wording slightly.

Something else that I thought of, which I was hoping someone here could help with.

Over the years we get a lot of people who register, but never validate the email, so end up sitting in the "Awaiting Email Confirmation" usergroup status for long periods of time. We used to MANUALLY go into the "prune" function and delete any members of that usergroup who were over 14 days without having acknowledged the validation emails, then we found and implemented the following mod to do it every night via a cron job automatically.

Users Cleanup

My question involves the "Ghost Users" aspect of this mod. Is the Users Cleanup mod going to screw up anything if it's automatically deleting members of the Awaiting Email Confirmation" usergroup who haven't responded in over 14 days?

Thanks for any feedback ?. :)

Regards,
Doug

BadgerDog 06-23-2011 11:52 AM

Edit: Never mind ... :rolleyes:

I had altered the vBulletin phrase "cost" to bring clarity to that area, which in-turn created confusion as to how it appears when used by this mod. Sorry about that .... :D


Decided to move the FREE registration to the top to see if it increased the number of people who went forward with registering. During that process, I noticed an anomaly. (see pic)

Why is the phrase "Contributing Member" (which is what we call people who donate), appearing under BOTH the FREE and SUBSCRIBER sections. A person who signs up for free is not a "Contributing Member" to us. I notice this anomaly regardless of whether the FREE sign-up section is plced before or after the subscriber section. :confused:

Anyone else notice this?

Regards,
Doug

vbresults 06-23-2011 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadgerDog (Post 2211728)
Edit: Never mind ... :rolleyes:

I had altered the vBulletin phrase "cost" to bring clarity to that area, which in-turn created confusion as to how it appears when used by this mod. Sorry about that .... :D


Decided to move the FREE registration to the top to see if it increased the number of people who went forward with registering. During that process, I noticed an anomaly. (see pic)

Why is the phrase "Contributing Member" (which is what we call people who donate), appearing under BOTH the FREE and SUBSCRIBER sections. A person who signs up for free is not a "Contributing Member" to us. I notice this anomaly regardless of whether the FREE sign-up section is plced before or after the subscriber section. :confused:

Anyone else notice this?

Regards,
Doug

The only thing that could cause that is a modification of the vBulletin phrase "Cost" (variable name: cost), which you seemed to have changed to "Contributing Member ...". You can alleviate the problem by doing one of the following:
  1. In the lancerforhire_paid_registration_subscription template, replace
    Code:

    {vb:phrase cost}:
    with
    Code:

    &nbsp;
    .
  2. Change the phrase back. The phase is called "cost" for a reason. :p

In the next version, I will remove the cost text for the free option so a template edit does not need to be done.

Manoel J?nior 06-23-2011 12:56 PM

Again:

Bro':

File Type: product-lancerforhire_paid_registration-1.3-legacy.xml

Please, update for vB3.8 - 2.0

Thanks

vbresults 06-23-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoel J?nior (Post 2211749)
Again:

Bro':

File Type: product-lancerforhire_paid_registration-1.3-legacy.xml

Please, update for vB3.8 - 2.0

Thanks

It will come out with the next 4.x version.

vbresults 06-23-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadgerDog (Post 2211712)
Users Cleanup

My question involves the "Ghost Users" aspect of this mod. Is the Users Cleanup mod going to screw up anything if it's automatically deleting members of the Awaiting Email Confirmation" usergroup who haven't responded in over 14 days?

Thanks for any feedback …. :)

Regards,
Doug

There is already a utility built into mod to do this for ghost users, and it defaults to 1 week. You can change it to 2 weeks if you'd like. :)

vbresults 06-24-2011 07:24 PM

2.1 for 4.x and 3.x is out!

BadgerDog 06-25-2011 10:13 AM

Thank you ... :up:

Installed 2.1 ....

Where can I find the place to change this to our own custom text that gets emailed?

"Implemented welcome emails for paid registrants."

We have a standard email we send when people subscribe to be "Contributing Members", but we have to do it manually now because the vBulletin system doesn't handle it.

Is there any way to be able to use part of your code to add that capability and send the same email regardless of whether the user subscribes before or after they register?

Regards,
Doug

vbresults 06-25-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadgerDog (Post 2212510)
Thank you ... :up:

Installed 2.1 ....

Where can I find the place to change this to our own custom text that gets emailed?

"Implemented welcome emails for paid registrants."

We have a standard email we send when people subscribe to be "Contributing Members", but we have to do it manually now because the vBulletin system doesn't handle it.

Is there any way to be able to use part of your code to add that capability and send the same email regardless of whether the user subscribes before or after they register?

Regards,
Doug

You are welcome. :)

I am confused; is the mod preventing your email system from working?

If not, it is out of scope for this mod; please send me a PM. :)

BadgerDog 06-25-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2212562)
You are welcome. :)

I am confused; is the mod preventing your email system from working?

Perhaps I'm confused .... :confused:

You indicate that in 2.1, you "Implemented welcome emails for paid registrants." ...

I assume that means when I user signs up with a paid subscription, your mod sends him an email acknowledging that?

All I want to do is put our own custom text into that email you send to them, so it's personalized and perhaps outlines the extra features they get for that paid subscription.

Am I misunderstanding what you've added?

Regards,
Doug

vbresults 06-25-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadgerDog (Post 2212577)
Perhaps I'm confused .... :confused:

You indicate that in 2.1, you "Implemented welcome emails for paid registrants." ...

I assume that means when I user signs up with a paid subscription, your mod sends him an email acknowledging that?

All I want to do is put our own custom text into that email you send to them, so it's personalized and perhaps outlines the extra features they get for that paid subscription.

Am I misunderstanding what you've added?

Regards,
Doug

Oh no, it does not do that. It sends the regular welcome email after the paid registration is completed; previously, it did not send anything.

BadgerDog 06-25-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2212580)
Oh no, it does not do that. It sends the regular welcome email after the paid registration is completed; previously, it did not send anything.

Ok, I think I understand ... :)

So, this phrase:

Quote:

Varname $vbphrase[lancerforhire_paid_registration_payment_received_w ith_transaction_id_x]

with default text as follows:

Text Payment received with Transaction ID {1}. Thank you!
... is sent by your mod after they pay and you're saying thank you to the user who subscribed?

If so, couldn't I elaborate in it and add custom content?

Regards,
Doug

vbresults 06-25-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadgerDog (Post 2212592)
Ok, I think I understand ... :)

So, this phrase:



... is sent by your mod after they pay and you're saying thank you to the user who subscribed?

If so, couldn't I elaborate in it and add custom content?

Regards,
Doug

That phrase is not sent. :p

The email I am talking about is the regular one, "Welcome to the X forums".

BadgerDog 06-25-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2212756)
That phrase is not sent. :p

The email I am talking about is the regular one, "Welcome to the X forums".

Roger that ... :up:

Regards,
Doug

vbresults 06-26-2011 07:52 PM

I'm going to add ID attributes to the headers of each subscription/package so they can be linked to externally. Any other ideas for the next release?

Manoel J?nior 06-27-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2213167)
I'm going to add ID attributes to the headers of each subscription/package so they can be linked to externally. Any other ideas for the next release?

I wish it had a system of discounts to be in-built. I had the product:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthrea...light=discount

But after I put your product, it no longer works, if you can add something, it would be very interesting, because I draw lots of discount coupons in my forum.

BadgerDog 06-27-2011 02:28 PM

I like the idea of an incentive via a discount to be earned if a user became a Contributing Member during sign-up, as opposed to waiting until after they registered. Not sure how that would implement, but it could be a simply % discount off whatever subscription level they chose, or perhaps a straightforward dollar amount that came off any subscription amount.

Also, some way of sending an automatic email to a user who subscribes during sign-up, with a copy to a pre-defined userID to keep track of, would be great !!!

Regards,
Doug

vbresults 06-27-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadgerDog (Post 2213551)
I like the idea of an incentive via a discount to be earned if a user became a Contributing Member during sign-up, as opposed to waiting until after they registered. Not sure how that would implement, but it could be a simply % discount off whatever subscription level they chose, or perhaps a straightforward dollar amount that came off any subscription amount.

Also, some way of sending an automatic email to a user who subscribes during sign-up, with a copy to a pre-defined userID to keep track of, would be great !!!

Regards,
Doug

The discount thing as I have told Manoel in the past is out of scope.

Regarding tracking, remember all of the paid registrants have a transaction for their registration in the transaction log, and their registration dates will be the same as the transaction date.

BadgerDog 06-27-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2213564)
The discount thing as I have told Manoel in the past is out of scope.

Roger that ... :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancerforhire (Post 2213564)
Regarding tracking, remember all of the paid registrants have a transaction for their registration in the transaction log, and their registration dates will be the same as the transaction date.

I wasn't so much thinking about tracking as a "thank you" marketing message email, that perhaps described the additional functions and features a Contributing Member received ...

Not a big deal... just responding to your request for ideas ... ;)

Regards,
Doug

Jake99 06-27-2011 05:27 PM

This Plugin does not work on the legacy. Followed all 3 steps as is and still nothing. Need support for vB3.8.

vbresults 06-27-2011 05:55 PM

As I told you in the PM, you did not follow the installation instructions; you could not get error 329865343 otherwise. There are other 3.x users that can vouch for this.


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