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almannai 03-23-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabs1980 (Post 2008702)
Thanks...

For whatever reason I couldn't get it to work on the homepage...

Anyway if you have the same problem I hacked the plugin sidebar_forumhome_complete to do nothing and enabled the vbulletin "standard" sidebar..

Not perfect but works great for me.. :)

as long as it works it is perfect :)

guvner 03-24-2010 06:31 PM

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Love the hack - many thanks! :up:

I'm another one with the extra wide quick reply box - see attached.

I've had a lot of members report it - but it appears to only happen with IE8 - FF is fine.

Until I can sort it out I've had to remove a couple of my blocks because quite a few users complained that if their post took up a full line using QR, they lost sight of what they were typing behind the sidebar block.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling but no luck - did you manage to figure out what's causing it?

I'd also like to add my voice for the option to using different block for different pages. My forum home is pretty long due to the number of forums I have, so when I have my widgets and ad blocks taking up the full height it looks OK. But then when we move to shorter pages it looks pretty bad having the sidebar create all the extra white space above the footer.

To be able to turn off some blocks on specific pages would make this just about the best hack at VB.org for me.

Mike :)

almannai 03-25-2010 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guvner (Post 2009554)
Love the hack - many thanks! :up:

I'm another one with the extra wide quick reply box - see attached.

I've had a lot of members report it - but it appears to only happen with IE8 - FF is fine.

Until I can sort it out I've had to remove a couple of my blocks because quite a few users complained that if their post took up a full line using QR, they lost sight of what they were typing behind the sidebar block.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling but no luck - did you manage to figure out what's causing it?

I'd also like to add my voice for the option to using different block for different pages. My forum home is pretty long due to the number of forums I have, so when I have my widgets and ad blocks taking up the full height it looks OK. But then when we move to shorter pages it looks pretty bad having the sidebar create all the extra white space above the footer.

To be able to turn off some blocks on specific pages would make this just about the best hack at VB.org for me.

Mike :)

Hello Mike

We have discused this bug before. It is not related to this mod it is a bug in vbulletin.
It is only happening to members not admins in ie8. Did you try to uninstall the mod and check with your members if the bug persist.

Also please report it to vbulletin bugs if it is due to vbulletin

guvner 03-25-2010 05:09 PM

I understand - however the problem isn't there with the hack uninstalled or disabled and it does affects me (admin : IE8).

I'm more than happy to report the bug over at VB - but because VB.com don't want to know about problems if we have modifications installed - if a VB bug affects a modification but isn't visible without the mod (like my installation), that's a bit like a "chicken & egg" problem - how can I demonstrate there's a bug if it's really only visible when a modification is installed?

Still I'll give it a go - do you have any details about, or a link to the bug please? - they still have so many over there. :rolleyes:

Mike :)

almannai 03-25-2010 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guvner (Post 2010165)
I understand - however the problem isn't there with the hack uninstalled or disabled and it does affects me (admin : IE8).

I'm more than happy to report the bug over at VB - but because VB.com don't want to know about problems if we have modifications installed - if a VB bug affects a modification but isn't visible without the mod (like my installation), that's a bit like a "chicken & egg" problem - how can I demonstrate there's a bug if it's really only visible when a modification is installed?

Still I'll give it a go - do you have any details about, or a link to the bug please? - they still have so many over there. :rolleyes:

Mike :)

As I remember this bug was visible to me if I login as a member not admin with disabling the mod. Maybe i've done something wrong when i test it but it was visible only when i login as user.

Nevertheless you could try my other mod where it will replace the quick reply with the full advanced reply. Also there is similar mod's like replace quickreply you can try them if you didn't liked mine.

When I have sometime I'll have a nother look at the mod to see if anything can be done.

Last thing did you tried it on ie9?

Khalid

kingMOB 03-30-2010 11:32 AM

Thanks for the mod almannai, very useful.

But, for some reason it is just using the stylevar options from vBulletin. Here I have lots of custom css in the additional.css file. Is there a way to make the mod work with this .css files?

hoathinh 04-03-2010 02:54 AM

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error templates Version 4.0.2

almannai 04-03-2010 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingMOB (Post 2012802)
Thanks for the mod almannai, very useful.

But, for some reason it is just using the stylevar options from vBulletin. Here I have lots of custom css in the additional.css file. Is there a way to make the mod work with this .css files?

I see what you mean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoathinh (Post 2014953)
error templates Version 4.0.2

What is the problem?

guvner 04-04-2010 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almannai (Post 2010174)
When I have sometime I'll have a nother look at the mod to see if anything can be done.

I've fixed the problem - at least for my forum.

It was a CSS issue - the current editor.css had the following:

Code:

.editor_textbox.quickreply textarea {
        height:100px;
}

.editor_textbox.quickreply iframe {
        height:106px;
}

I changed that to:

Code:

.editor_textbox textarea {
        height:100px;
}
.quickreply textarea {
                height:100px;
                width: 80%;
}

.editor_textbox.quickreply iframe {
        height:106px;
}

and now my quick edit box no longer disappears behind the sidebar.

Mike :)

almannai 04-04-2010 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guvner (Post 2015452)
I've fixed the problem - at least for my forum.

It was a CSS issue - the current editor.css had the following:

Code:

.editor_textbox.quickreply textarea {
        height:100px;
}

.editor_textbox.quickreply iframe {
        height:106px;
}

I changed that to:

Code:

.editor_textbox textarea {
        height:100px;
}
.quickreply textarea {
                height:100px;
                width: 80%;
}

.editor_textbox.quickreply iframe {
        height:106px;
}

and now my quick edit box no longer disappears behind the sidebar.

Mike :)

Nice work Mike

Thank you for sharing it
:)

chiptz 04-04-2010 03:36 PM

Good product!

Quick ideas to make it better:

- disable collapsing sidebar (if you want to place ads on it you don't want users to hide it, did it manually)
- ability to place it everywhere except on thread display --> already exists, my fault
- ability to expand posts when viewing a thread after sidebar ents, ie, to remove the white gap after all blocks end

almannai 04-04-2010 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiptz (Post 2015662)
Good product!

Quick ideas to make it better:

- disable collapsing sidebar (if you want to place ads on it you don't want users to hide it, did it manually)
- ability to place it everywhere except on thread display
- ability to expand posts when viewing a thread after sidebar ents, ie, to remove the white gap after all blocks end

Nice input man

For 2'nd it is in the mod options

texasteamplayer 04-04-2010 04:40 PM

yeah. seems like a lot of improvements.

Again, would really like the ability to have dual sidebars.

also, ability to prevent sidebar from being collapsed (vertically and horizantally).

For vertical collapsing of blocks, I'd like to be able to create a block and then select whether it can or can not be collapsed (so some menu's or other blocks users can close, but ad blocks, or mandatory blocks they can not).

where do we modify the block options (for usergroups and such?)

texasteamplayer 04-04-2010 04:42 PM

yeah....it would be good to have user group specific blocks, like ads. So, if you have a site subscription, that removes all ads, it doesn't remove all the side blocks we need.

Again, I'm more than willing to pay you for this. pm me, and we can talk about what we need specifically, and what you can add to your mod. You can still host it here, and everyone can have it, but we'll pay you for your trouble in making the mod what we need it to be.

texasteamplayer 04-04-2010 04:49 PM

found the mod options. So, yeah..... I'd like it to be per block, so each block has it's own user permissions (or perhaps groups that are allowed to see it, by group number...pretty easy since a lot of forum functions use this).

And then, sidebar on both sides (meaning you'll have to specify when you create a block which side it will be on (left, right).

And then, no more collapsing the side bars horizantally (so people can't turn off the ads/menus/whatever). That can be a global option, like most of your mod options now.

chiptz 04-04-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almannai (Post 2015698)
Nice input man

For 2'nd it is in the mod options

Correct, I completely forgot to remove it afterward, just upgraded to 4.0 and still a lot to do :)

Rukas 04-06-2010 01:49 AM

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Anyone else having Reply With Quote and MultiQuote disappear below the next post as they are forced onto a new line?

ps2wiz 04-06-2010 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukas (Post 2016565)
Anyone else having Reply With Quote and MultiQuote disappear below the next post as they are forced onto a new line?

Ugh, I just installed it and have the same exact problem. But, I have tested it with FireFox and Safari and it does not happen. It happens when using the browser on my Android phone. i have not tested it with Internet Explorer yet. But a good portion of my user base browses from their phones, so this is affecting my site...

reteep 04-11-2010 10:17 AM

<i>Unfortunately not compatible with vBulletin 4.0.3 :/</i>

EDIT: It works with v4.0.3. You just have to recreate the Blocks and be sure you got text in the content field, even if you use a custom template, otherwise it wont be displayed.

almannai 04-11-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukas (Post 2016565)
Anyone else having Reply With Quote and MultiQuote disappear below the next post as they are forced onto a new line?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps2wiz (Post 2016636)
Ugh, I just installed it and have the same exact problem. But, I have tested it with FireFox and Safari and it does not happen. It happens when using the browser on my Android phone. i have not tested it with Internet Explorer yet. But a good portion of my user base browses from their phones, so this is affecting my site...

I don't see this problem on ie. However you can disable sidebar for showthreed page from mod options.:)


Quote:

Originally Posted by reteep (Post 2019364)
Unfortunately not compatible with vBulletin 4.0.3 :/

EDIT: It works with v4.0.3. You just have to recreate the Blocks and be sure you got text in the content field, even if you use a custom template, otherwise it wont be displayed.

I don't see any problem with 4.0.3.

fluidswork 04-12-2010 03:41 AM

Awesome man !!!

gabs1980 04-12-2010 08:23 PM

Its now just started killing my "newthread" page :(

Its somehow is removing ALL permissions to anyone to create a new thread..

Reply, pm etc all work just newthread.php its working..

I was running 4.0.2 with the problem and now have 4.0.3 with the same problem..

Anyone found a work around ?

almannai 04-13-2010 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabs1980 (Post 2020129)
Its now just started killing my "newthread" page :(

Its somehow is removing ALL permissions to anyone to create a new thread..

Reply, pm etc all work just newthread.php its working..

I was running 4.0.2 with the problem and now have 4.0.3 with the same problem..

Anyone found a work around ?

Noway that your problem is related to this mod. This mod is not changing permissions of any sort.

ps2wiz 04-13-2010 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rukas (Post 2016565)
Anyone else having Reply With Quote and MultiQuote disappear below the next post as they are forced onto a new line?

I confirm that I have the identical issue.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/

I am not sure if it is a coincidence, but it started doing so as soon as I upgraded to 4.0.3 and it even happens in FireFox.

Mind you that it does not occur on my 24" monitor which uses a large resolution but it does occur on my 15" laptop which uses a lower resolution.

Any fix please?

ThorstenA 04-13-2010 11:18 AM

Suggestion to correct the forumdisplay issue and display the sidebar there really next to the left forum content. On plugin hook sidebar_fdispaly change
Code:

$sidebarext_search = '<div id="pagetitle" class="pagetitle">';
To
Code:

$sidebarext_search = '<div id="above_threadlist" class="above_threadlist">';

almannai 04-13-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ps2wiz (Post 2020421)
I confirm that I have the identical issue.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/2...0413at533d.png

I am not sure if it is a coincidence, but it started doing so as soon as I upgraded to 4.0.3 and it even happens in FireFox.

Mind you that it does not occur on my 24" monitor which uses a large resolution but it does occur on my 15" laptop which uses a lower resolution.

Any fix please?

If this is happening then it most likely a vb4 problem not this mod issue, i guess; and as you said it is not happening with wide monitors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThorstenA (Post 2020475)
Suggestion to correct the forumdisplay issue and display the sidebar there really next to the left forum content. On plugin hook sidebar_fdispaly change
Code:

$sidebarext_search = '<div id="pagetitle" class="pagetitle">';
To
Code:

$sidebarext_search = '<div id="above_threadlist" class="above_threadlist">';

thank you for sharing

gabs1980 04-14-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by almannai (Post 2020357)
Noway that your problem is related to this mod. This mod is not changing permissions of any sort.

hehee.. I'd hacked your mod so much it was creating some nice conflicts...

fix now :)

almannai 04-14-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabs1980 (Post 2021203)
hehee.. I'd hacked your mod so much it was creating some ...

fix now :)

nice conflicts !! :)

Enjoy

AprilReign 04-20-2010 12:47 PM

I suppose it would be folly to ask if it could be enable on a per user basis. I ask because some of my members want it and others don't . And I'm tapdancing to please both. :rolleyes:

Videx 04-20-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AprilReign (Post 2024304)
I suppose it would be folly to ask if it could be enable on a per user basis. I ask because some of my members want it and others don't . And I'm tapdancing to please both. :rolleyes:

They can certainly hit the 'collapse' button. But the problem is the sidebar still loads, so on slower connections collapsing actually takes more time than not, so really it only helps to save screen space.

I'm beginning to wonder why anyone would actually 'need' it everywhere. There's nothing too particularly useful in it. Why do your users say they like it everywhere? Or are they really just saying they like it 'anywhere'?

What's really got me amazed is how many admins are removing the collapse button, actually forcing the sidebar on people.

AprilReign 04-20-2010 01:18 PM

The ones that want it everywhere are using it for the Today's Active Topics area, we used to have a mod on a different board that showed the last post excerpt, forum it was in, poster and clicking lead to the last page in thread. I haven't been able to figure how to mimic that with vbulletin

Videx 04-20-2010 01:35 PM

Isn't that what "What's New" and "New Posts" do? Besides, that wouldn't explain needing it everywhere.

AprilReign 04-20-2010 01:38 PM

No what's new doesn't show the first bit of the last post, it only shows the first bit of the first post and only on hover - no good for those on mobile devices,

almannai 04-20-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AprilReign (Post 2024304)
I suppose it would be folly to ask if it could be enable on a per user basis. I ask because some of my members want it and others don't . And I'm tapdancing to please both. :rolleyes:

I suggest to keep it as it is and users may collapse it anytime it wont show up for that specific user; loading it is another story. Pleasing everybody will not happen and you -as an admin- must have the last word. You could also control on which pages or on which forums it will be shown that may help you a bit.

happy admining:)

Peter Ostry 04-22-2010 05:03 PM

Can I hide the "collapse" arrow and have the sidebar always open? Unfortunately some users seem to overlook the arrow and once the sidebar is collapsed, it remains in this state forever. Even if a user logs out and in again. In this cases we get mails asking where the content vanished that was in the sidebar ...

Any other suggestion?
NOT remembering the open/close state across sessions would be helpful, always open on the start page would be helpful, deactivating the open/close function would be helpful, even if the arrow remains visible. Best for us would be to remove the arrow and let the sidebar permanently open.

chiptz 04-22-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Ostry (Post 2025485)
Can I hide the "collapse" arrow and have the sidebar always open? Unfortunately some users seem to overlook the arrow and once the sidebar is collapsed, it remains in this state forever. Even if a user logs out and in again. In this cases we get mails asking where the content vanished that was in the sidebar ...

Any other suggestion?
NOT remembering the open/close state across sessions would be helpful, always open on the start page would be helpful, deactivating the open/close function would be helpful, even if the arrow remains visible. Best for us would be to remove the arrow and let the sidebar permanently open.

find template: sidebarext_temp

remove this part:

Code:

                <a id="sidebar_button_link" href="#">
                        <vb:if condition="$vboptions['sidebarposition'] == 0">
                        <img id="sidebar_button" src="{vb:stylevar imgdir_misc}/tab-collapsed-left.png" alt="" />
                        <vb:else />
                        <img id="sidebar_button" src="{vb:stylevar imgdir_misc}/tab-collapsed.png" alt="" />
                        </vb:if>
                </a>


almannai 04-22-2010 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Ostry (Post 2025485)
Can I hide the "collapse" arrow and have the sidebar always open? Unfortunately some users seem to overlook the arrow and once the sidebar is collapsed, it remains in this state forever. Even if a user logs out and in again. In this cases we get mails asking where the content vanished that was in the sidebar ...

Any other suggestion?
NOT remembering the open/close state across sessions would be helpful, always open on the start page would be helpful, deactivating the open/close function would be helpful, even if the arrow remains visible. Best for us would be to remove the arrow and let the sidebar permanently open.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiptz (Post 2025499)
find template: sidebarext_temp

remove this part:

Code:

                <a id="sidebar_button_link" href="#">
                        <vb:if condition="$vboptions['sidebarposition'] == 0">
                        <img id="sidebar_button" src="{vb:stylevar imgdir_misc}/tab-collapsed-left.png" alt="" />
                        <vb:else />
                        <img id="sidebar_button" src="{vb:stylevar imgdir_misc}/tab-collapsed.png" alt="" />
                        </vb:if>
                </a>


I don't recommend this way.

Maybe in the next update we could add this feature although I don't recommend forcing sidebar open againest users well.

Regards,

chiptz 04-22-2010 07:53 PM

Correct, this will disable it for all users.

Peter Ostry 04-23-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Ostry
Can I hide the "collapse" arrow and have the sidebar always open?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiptz (Post 2025499)
find template: sidebarext_temp
remove this part: ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by almannai (Post 2025506)
I don't recommend this way.

Maybe in the next update we could add this feature although I don't recommend forcing sidebar open againest users well.

I get the point of the developer but in this case the will of users and designers is definitely to see the sidebar always on all pages. Nobody in the forum actually wants or needs to close the sidebar. But users do it because they can do it, afterwards they forget the meaning of the arrow button and don't find the content they are looking for. They may interpret the button as some graphical ornament or whatever.

---

The suggestion made by chiptz does almost work but unfortunately has a side effect:
Removing the link of the open/close button in 'sidebarext_temp' does not remove it from the start page, where it remains operable. And if you close the sidebar on the start page, it isn't displayed on the subpages. There is just an empty space where the sidebar should be.

Is there something in the FORUMHOME template I could modify to force an open sidebar? Maybe I can set the variable $vboptions['sidebarposition'] permanently to 1 somehow, or is this a matter of the mod itself?

If I just manage to remove the arrow button, I may run into an unsolvable problem, because users whose sidebar is currently collapsed won't have the chance to get it open again. So one of the following methods would be best at the moment:

1) Keeping the sidebar always open, with or without the arrow button. Important is, that the sidebar stays open.

or

2) Forgetting the users sidebar status between sessions. If they really "lose" their sidebar, it should be here again after a new login.

Any hints?

My last option would be to replace the default 'ornamental' arrow button by a text button that tells the user what to do.

your24hourstore 04-23-2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Ostry (Post 2025931)
I get the point of the developer but in this case the will of users and designers is definitely to see the sidebar always on all pages. Nobody in the forum actually wants or needs to close the sidebar. But users do it because they can do it, afterwards they forget the meaning of the arrow button and don't find the content they are looking for. They may interpret the button as some graphical ornament or whatever.

---

The suggestion made by chiptz does almost work but unfortunately has a side effect:
Removing the link of the open/close button in 'sidebarext_temp' does not remove it from the start page, where it remains operable. And if you close the sidebar on the start page, it isn't displayed on the subpages. There is just an empty space where the sidebar should be.

Is there something in the FORUMHOME template I could modify to force an open sidebar? Maybe I can set the variable $vboptions['sidebarposition'] permanently to 1 somehow, or is this a matter of the mod itself?

If I just manage to remove the arrow button, I may run into an unsolvable problem, because users whose sidebar is currently collapsed won't have the chance to get it open again. So one of the following methods would be best at the moment:

1) Keeping the sidebar always open, with or without the arrow button. Important is, that the sidebar stays open.

or

2) Forgetting the users sidebar status between sessions. If they really "lose" their sidebar, it should be here again after a new login.

Any hints?

My last option would be to replace the default 'ornamental' arrow button by a text button that tells the user what to do.

sounds right, make it larger too that button sucks


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