ugh IPB, lol Not missing those days.

I'm surprised this topic is so quiet, and that no one has commented on the staff list posted in announcements over at .com (aka http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...48#post1755748). Then again, how come that announcement hasn't been reposted over here?

In my case its the complete apathy toward this whole 4.0 ... bla bla affair.


But yeah .. good luck with YOUR enthusiasm none the less. :up:

Any report about 4.

No.

Any news about vB4 will be posted on vB.com.

They slipped already Q2 for beta, we hope to see only Alpha this July(already Q3), then only in August when we see Beta hopefully. I estimated we can see Gold next year. I dont think they wanted to sell beta product. no one does.Beta will be buggy and as usual will run for Beta 2, beta3, beta4 for months. then we see RC1, RC2, RC3. I dont Think Jelsoft would skip this release method as it is bad for the product itself.And as usual Beta and RC is not supported by Jelsoft.

Alpha and Beta stages will be very short. Once Alpha is our it should not take very long before production version is ready.

If ur lisence remain one year can u upgrade 3.8.3 to 4

No information regarding that has been released yet

agree

though I think both can feel the pressure by their cheaper and better working and better looking alternatives like ExpressionEngine

My biggest gripe with vb 4.0 is not so much the possibility of being charged just being left out of the dark. For the people with expiring licenses and what not, it'd be nice to know whether they should go ahead and renew now or wait.

Just being kept in the know would ease a lot of people's frustrations.

We need built in search engine optimization. Because vbseo just useing 90 percent of my server resurce. I have to uninstall it

Well it's either going to be a discount or free for existing license holders, both owned and leased, from what the information says.

And it needs to reroute old VBSeo URLs to the new location - otherwise ranking will drop big time if links are broken.

That's a good point with the redirect. Shouldn't be difficult to code, and I hope they come up with a system similar to the IMPEX importer in that sense (I think Impex has redirects from other forum type standard URLs, right?)

Ya all link are broken every one getting 404 error. I index all 404 to forum root folder. If u know how to fix it pm me

They arn't going to release beta or rc's.

when things like this saying Q2 it always means Q2 X 2= Q4 !!

same info said it would be released yesterday :p

I have both an IPB and vB license, and my vB future rests solely on vB4.

True, but the discounts part was posted after the leaked information was, often by Ray Morgan himself.

Hopefully by the end of the month vb will give us a big update with what exactly is going on.

That would be the best case scenario, and would certainly stop all the fighting over on the .com site.

<a href="http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313353" target="_blank">http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=313353</a>

Four to five weeks :\

If it is going to take 5 weeks at best for the alpha ....then at this rate it will take at least 3 more months for the Beta. Way behind the original schedule.

Yes, we are going to see the private Alpha (only selected members) including me in end of August or early September, this Alpha probably will run for a month, so you will then see the private Beta (selected people) in October and it will run until november for private viewing, that left only December, I dont expect Alpha and Beta without any bugs, so Beta will run for private for a month or 2, so you will get your vb4 by the end of this year/or new year or as Christmas gift.

anyway, announcing the news without knowing the exactly ETA of the product has burden customers and 3rd party service provider like me - vb skins , sales are declining because people keep waiting the anticipated vb4.

Something to learn is not to make news if you cannot make it a news, and another thing is better late then never.

I hope we get news regarding pricing before I have to renew my owned license. Thats all I care about as i'm sure many others do too

That's of starting ALPHA TESTING. Which is a bit disappointing really.

I'm probably one of the few people that is happy that alpha is being put off so far from the original estimate. I will hopefully be home in time for alpha testing now.

So alpha testing starts or not?

yes disappointing. twice delayed. Expected in June now we'll see it in August/early September.
and its bad for business for vbullletin itself and others.

it should be out, we'll have to wait.it is private install you cannot see it unless you are in the selected team.

This really sucks...a lot of our rival boards are on IPB, and their new software blows VB away. And we have to keep waiting for something new and some type of improvements..but even these things listed don't make it sound very promising.

I know the post says your team is huge. And there are 327K members on this forum, and i'd assume the sales are around there as well, a lot of which are return sales..and I can do the math. It just doesn't seem like the money is being put to use anymore. I still like the software, but it really doesn't give me much more than the free ones out there anymore.

Just my opinion..I am still excited for the VB4 release, just seems like it's taking forever!

vBulletin 4 sounds exciting, but the thing that makes me worried is vBulletin pulling another price hike for licenses.I do hope they offer a free or reduced pricing for renewals so that we can get back into the swing of things.

If my lisense remain can i upgrade free

You should check the feature list of vb compared to others like IPB. The latter is still missing some key features that I couldn't miss and which vb has. And the free ones are missing tons of features.

VB is now in the hands of a big company and we can only hope they will improve it and release a good and stable update this year.

I honestly don't know why anyone is surprised by the delays. That's just what vB has become. I also hate the not public Alpha/Beta testing, I reported tons of bugs during the 3.5.X series and above and was denied Beta testing.

Oh well. Just a small fish in a giant pond I guess.

Yes, I agree, we should have public beta not private one, more live testers more better the software just like old days when they have live beta and beta release in a series, also release candidates, but as I understood, after the private beta they just release the final version. I dont think this is a good practice also maybe because they are too way behind schedule because they/people started talking about this vb4 since early this year, and it can only be out only this December/Jan 2010.

I doubt the closed Alpha/Beta will cause more issues with the final release. On the contrary, the quality of the testing might improve.

I don't understand why beta testing isn't open to everyone.