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Immortal 01-13-2006 06:52 PM

Sorry everyone....there was indeed a bug with the forum rewrite. Redownload and reupload your .htaccess (you do not need to reimport the product). Is it working for everyone now?

Snake 01-13-2006 07:00 PM

Yeah but showthread ain't working still!

Immortal 01-13-2006 07:02 PM

The actual showthread works (or should if not shoot me a PM). However, showthread.php?p=postid#postpostid still doesn't work :(

I've bumped my thread up several times, asked numerous people. It seems they are a) not willing to help or not wanting to b) don't know. Which is why I did not release it as a stable release....

Snake 01-13-2006 07:08 PM

What are you talking about? The actualy showthread ain't working for me.

http://www.metalgearforums.com

Immortal 01-13-2006 07:11 PM

Working just fine for me? Went to the first forum, and first thread, URL is:

http://www.metalgearforums.com/site-...alert-876.html

Oh, btw Aftermath....Feel free to use those custom rewrite rules you asked for, they are included in this version! :D

Snake 01-13-2006 07:22 PM

Well it's not working for the other threads, just that. Weird!

Oh cool and how do I use them huh? :P

tomasn 01-13-2006 07:25 PM

now it works fine! thanks :-)

Immortal 01-13-2006 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aftermath
Well it's not working for the other threads, just that. Weird!

Very, it was working just dandy for me on alll threads! :surprised:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aftermath
Oh cool and how do I use them huh? :P

vB Options->vRewrite and will have a few things you can change :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomasn
now it works fine! thanks :-)

And thank you for one of the ones finding it :)

croportal 01-13-2006 07:30 PM

where can i see live demo

Immortal 01-13-2006 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croportal
where can i see live demo

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....27&postcount=2

However, I don't believe Hosting-Talk has upgraded to 1.0 Preview yet.

Dean C 01-13-2006 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croportal
i didnt install version 1.0 because i have dean C version

immortal is this good and stable version

Whilst I have tried to steer clear and avoid any competitive input on this modification, I have to say that SEO is not something that should be played with. Once you have your URLs, stick with them. Changing them all the time will have severe issues with getting your site indexed. That is something that I shall be reccomending with my modification when I release it as stable, and I would hope that Immortal reccomends too :) It's a very unwise decision to just up and change your URL's willy-nilly.

Snake 01-13-2006 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
Very, it was working just dandy for me on alll threads! :surprised:


vB Options->vRewrite and will have a few things you can change :)



And thank you for one of the ones finding it :)

Dude, Immortal, it ain't working on my forums properly. Don't ask me why. I've double checked my edits and everything seems to be fine.

croportal 01-13-2006 07:37 PM

but dean, i use your hack and i think its great but you dont have few aditions to be perfect

like rewrite member
rewrite new posts

and stuff like this

i am consedering to buy vbseo or install this hack when will be stable release i mean 1.5 version

if you release somethin like member rewrite or new posts, i will use yours

Immortal 01-13-2006 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
Whilst I have tried to steer clear and avoid any competitive input on this modification, I have to say that SEO is not something that should be played with. Once you have your URLs, stick with them. Changing them all the time will have severe issues with getting your site indexed. That is something that I shall be reccomending with my modification when I release it as stable, and I would hope that Immortal reccomends too :) It's a very unwise decision to just up and change your URL's willy-nilly.

Throughout all my versions, my URLs have never changed once. Changing from dynamic to static is no easy task - but once its completed it should stay there for awhile if it's done correctly the first time. I've tried many SEO hacks before, and not naming any names, heh.....they were not done correctly. While there is immediate danger, but in less then a week, majority of SEs will begin to benefit once again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aftermath
Dude, Immortal, it ain't working on my forums properly. Don't ask me why. I've double checked my edits and everything seems to be fine.

Is it not rewritting at all for you?

croportal 01-13-2006 07:49 PM

hee thinks on my urls, i cannot change from dean c hack to yours

Snake 01-13-2006 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
Throughout all my versions, my URLs have never changed once. Changing from dynamic to static is no easy task - but once its completed it should stay there for awhile if it's done correctly the first time. I've tried many SEO hacks before, and not naming any names, heh.....they were not done correctly. While there is immediate danger, but in less then a week, majority of SEs will begin to benefit once again.



Is it not rewritting at all for you?

Well most of them aren't changing the URLs. :(

Immortal 01-13-2006 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croportal
hee thinks on my urls, i cannot change from dean c hack to yours

The beginning transcation may be a bit painful for the first week or two. But once that's over, it should start befeniting right away. My opinion is a bit biased, on who's hack to choose from as is his opinion. So keep that in mind when choosing. The best of luck though, if you have any questions, don't hestitate to hit that PM button :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aftermath
Well most of them aren't changing the URLs.

Moving to PM - if you don't mind :)

Corriewf 01-13-2006 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aftermath
Bah this mod is still messed up. :( Better buy vBSEO 'cause I haven't got any other choice.



You have Dean's version which is better then them all.

Dean C 01-13-2006 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
Throughout all my versions, my URLs have never changed once. Changing from dynamic to static is no easy task - but once its completed it should stay there for awhile if it's done correctly the first time. I've tried many SEO hacks before, and not naming any names, heh.....they were not done correctly. While there is immediate danger, but in less then a week, majority of SEs will begin to benefit once again.



Is it not rewritting at all for you?

This is not about your modification changing it's URLs. Yours haven't, mine haven't. The difference is if someone uses mine and switches to yours, their URLs will change, and vice-versa. This is a very dangerous thing to do and I'm going to be making strong reccomendations in my first post to not switch modifications as croportal is doing and I also see a few others doing.

And also, (this is to croportal) newposts don't need rewriting, as I've explained about a hundred times in my thread and will stress even more in the FAQ ;)

Immortal 01-13-2006 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
This is not about your modification changing it's URLs. Yours haven't, mine haven't. The difference is if someone uses mine and switches to yours, their URLs will change, and vice-versa. This is a very dangerous thing to do and I'm going to be making strong reccomendations in my first post to not switch modifications as croportal is doing and I also see a few others doing.

Competition bittin' at your ankles there a bit Dean? ;)

As I've said before, it is perfectly safe to do it. I hate to use vBSEO as an example, but why else would they give you so many options? Although it is not recommended to change URLs, it is safe to do once in a blue moon. Heck, it'll even help it out a bit - as they will have to reindex your site. And soon I'll be release a SEOed sitemap, to even better assist your indexing.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
And also, (this is to croportal) newposts don't need rewriting, as I've explained about a hundred times in my thread and will stress even more in the FAQ ;)

Technically, that is false. If you use newposts, and rewrites, SEs will flag this as double content, and removes the entire purpose of a SEO hack other then better indexing. Once a SE thinks you have double content, it is not the best thing especially for many many occurrences. So that is not true, and I would appreciate it if you stop giving out false information in my thread.

croportal 01-13-2006 08:15 PM

yes immortal i think that you correct with new posts thing because this is duplicate content

sorry for my bad english

Dean C 01-13-2006 08:19 PM

Quote:

Technically, that is false. If you use newposts, and rewrites, SEs will flag this as double content, and removes the entire purpose of a SEO hack other then better indexing. Once a SE thinks you have double content, it is not the best thing especially for many many occurrences. So that is not true, and I would appreciate it if you stop giving out false information in my thread.
Well I'd disagree entirely. The (lastpost link) showthread.php?t=x&goto=newpost serves a function. Upon clicking it, it redirects you to another page. So adding a rewrite for this page only serves a purpose for consistency. Lastpost IS duplicate content because it's showing the same content @ two different URLs. It should definately have rel="nofollow" added to it, and rewriting it is pointless, as all it does is redirect to another page.

Quote:

Competition bittin' at your ankles there a bit Dean?
All competition is good competition ;) Besides, I'll be recommending people don't migrate from yours to mine (until I make a compatible way for users to migrate without getting a) duplicate content and b) URL inconsistencies)

Immortal 01-13-2006 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
Well I'd disagree entirely. The (lastpost link) showthread.php?t=x&goto=newpost serves a function. Upon clicking it, it redirects you to another page. So adding a rewrite for this page only serves a purpose for consistency. Lastpost IS duplicate content because it's showing the same content @ two different URLs. It should definately have rel="nofollow" added to it, and rewriting it is pointless, as all it does is redirect to another page.

You would never want to add a nofollow link on a redirect, now that is just madness. Not only is it removing your showthread URL, but the new post. Now that is just insanity, and I would never recommend that in a million years as that will severely hurt your forum.

In order to properly fix newpost, you need to rewrite the URL itself, and then the function. This will help SEs better navigate and will never end up on showthread.php itself. I would never suggest you not rewriting newpost - as SEs will just flag that as double content and will remove your site or penalize it if it occurs many times.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
;) Besides, I'll be recommending people don't migrate from yours to mine (until I make a compatible way for users to migrate without getting a) duplicate content and b) URL inconsistencies)

You don't seem to worried about duplicate content if you don't worry about newpost at all. And there will be no URL inconsistencies if the proper 404 page is used correctly, and with the brilliance of Google Sitemaps - switching URLs is as easy as snap of a thumb. It is safe to change URLs every once in awhile, any respectable SEO expert will tell you that, if done properly. Even in the first place, meaning majority of URLs is rewritten.

Dean C 01-13-2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
You would never want to add a nofollow link on a redirect, now that is just madness. Not only is it removing your showthread URL, but the new post. Now that is just insanity, and I would never recommend that in a million years as that will severely hurt your forum.

In order to properly fix newpost, you need to rewrite the URL itself, and then the function. This will help SEs better navigate and will never end up on showthread.php itself. I would never suggest you not rewriting newpost - as SEs will just flag that as double content and will remove your site or penalize it if it occurs many times.

It is not removing any URL; threads are indexed by the spider going into the forum and then entering threads etc. The only forseeable reason for rewriting the lastpost/newpost links in the lastpost column, as I've said already, is for consistency. This is why I have added rel=nofollow to the lastpost links, because even if you rewrite it, it's two different URLs as the search engine will end up at two URLs for the thread, showthread.php?p=x and yourthreadurl.html.

Dean C 01-13-2006 08:50 PM

An example:

http://www.hosting-talk.com/links-an...9-newpost.html

is redirected to:

http://www.hosting-talk.com/showthre...?p=681#post681

But the content is also available on this page:
http://www.hosting-talk.com/announce...ctory-669.html

Immortal 01-13-2006 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
It is not removing any URL; threads are indexed by the spider going into the forum and then entering threads etc. The only forseeable reason for rewriting the lastpost/newpost links in the lastpost column, as I've said already, is for consistency. This is why I have added rel=nofollow to the lastpost links, because even if you rewrite it, it's two different URLs as the search engine will end up at two URLs for the thread, showthread.php?p=x and yourthreadurl.html.

If you are adding nofollow to the last post/new post, it is. As soon as a SE comes across a nofollow, it will stop. Meaning, that won't exist, only by forumdisplay, similar etc. But it will not be found by last post/new post. And as I've said before, that is why you rewrite the function so it will not end up at showthread.php?p=id#postpostid.

As I've said before, and I'll say it again, please stop posting false information in my thread.

Immortal 01-13-2006 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C

And that is the only bug that is preventing it from me releasing it as stable. If you are using showthread.php it defeats any SEO rewrite advantages. Ask any known SEO expert.

This is not a place to discuss such things, as this is a support thread for vRewrite, I appreciate it if you post it in the correct forum and not in my thread.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny.VBT
...Please do not bring up any other similiar modifications or anything else for that matter, it is not fair to the author and anyone else looking for valuable content concerning the hack. If you feel you need to discuss a hack or multiple hacks, you can do so maturely in an independent thread in the General Modifications Forum.


Dean C 01-13-2006 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
If you are adding nofollow to the last post/new post, it is. As soon as a SE comes across a nofollow, it will stop. Meaning, that won't exist, only by forumdisplay, similar etc. But it will not be found by last post/new post. And as I've said before, that is why you rewrite the function so it will not end up at showthread.php?p=id#postpostid.

As I've said before, and I'll say it again, please stop posting false information in my thread.

There is only one person posting false information here, and that is you :)

<a href="link1.php?goto=1" rel="nofollow">a</a>
<a href="link1.php">b</a>

Out of those two links b will be entered. Search engines don't remember rel="nofollow". If you have two identical anchors on a page, one with rel="nofollow", it'll still enter the one without rel="nofollow" on it. And in fact, your modification does redirect to showthread.php?p=id#postpostid, as illustrated in the post before yours. So in essence, you're rewriting a link which internally redirects to showthread.php?t=x&goto=neworlastpost and then externall redirects to showthread.php?p=id#postpostid, which is completely pointless.

Edit: - I'm not talking about my modification at the moment, I'm discussing the reasoning behind why lastpost/newpost has no necessity to be rewritten.

Dean C 01-13-2006 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
And that is the only bug that is preventing it from me releasing it as stable. If you are using showthread.php it defeats any SEO rewrite advantages. Ask any known SEO expert.

The idea behind adding rel="nofollow" to the showthread links which serve a function, is that they never get indexed.

bold 01-13-2006 09:41 PM

Alright, quit flirting you two.

Gayble 01-14-2006 04:39 AM

Everything works fine, except the links in the memberlist:
http://www.hostaddicts.com/memberlist.php

When you click on A, B, C, D, etc. the links don't work! :( That's the only problem I'm having with this hack..

bayard88 01-14-2006 09:47 AM

can we see vbrewrite working?
because I have a path problem in some pages like it: http://www.marocainement.com/forum/d...tnoquote-1.php

Dean C 01-14-2006 02:05 PM

bayardd88 - in the first post there is a list of example sites using it :)

bayard88 01-14-2006 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C
bayardd88 - in the first post there is a list of example sites using it :)

thanks, sorry

problem fixed, we have to edit the STANDARD_ERROR template and proceed like the others we edited:

3) In the following templates: SHOWTHREAD, newreply, newthread, find $headinclude and add above that:
<base href="$vboptions[bburl]/" />

Now it works fine
I'm waiting for the 1.0 now :)

croportal 01-14-2006 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayard88
thanks, sorry

problem fixed, we have to edit the STANDARD_ERROR template and proceed like the others we edited:

3) In the following templates: SHOWTHREAD, newreply, newthread, find $headinclude and add above that:
<base href="$vboptions[bburl]/" />

Now it works fine
I'm waiting for the 1.0 now :)


1.0 is released

bayard88 01-14-2006 08:41 PM

where? I just see the 1.0Preview

Immortal 01-14-2006 08:49 PM

I believe that is what croportal meant...this is pretty much 1.0 will be like. The only reason 1.0 has not been released yet, as there is one outstanding bug which no one seems to know the answer to.

bayard88 01-14-2006 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
I believe that is what croportal meant...this is pretty much 1.0 will be like. The only reason 1.0 has not been released yet, as there is one outstanding bug which no one seems to know the answer to.

Ok, but will you release your 1.0 without fixing the bug I mentionned (template STANDARD_ERROR) ?

Immortal 01-14-2006 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayard88
Ok, but will you release your 1.0 without fixing the bug I mentionned (template STANDARD_ERROR) ?

Sure did - I've added it to the install.html. Thanks :)

bayard88 01-14-2006 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal
Sure did - I've added it to the install.html. Thanks :)

you're welcome


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