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lierduh 05-20-2004 10:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Odoin
I have two newsgroup feeds setup... seems to be one of the forum pulls the posts made to it back into the topic so there is double posts.. one from the local user and the same post over acting as if it was from a outside user... Any idea why it would do this on just one forum?
Have you changed "useragent" or organization? The latest version checks both useragent and organization in the header. The message only get imported if they do not match at the same time.

Otherwise do you have special charactors in the organization setting?

lierduh 05-20-2004 10:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinM
I am getting this error whenever it hits a message with an attachment (with the latest script)



Is this related to creating the thumbnail?
I will come up with a solution very soon.

lierduh 05-20-2004 10:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imhotep
IMHO, it would be cool if we could add variables for incoming and outgoing ports. My host allows incoming on port 119 but not outgoing. So, with my new NSP, I am experimenting with getting posts to get out to Usenet.

Giganews allows connections to ports 119,80, and 23

Am I to assume that I can search the PHP files for "119" and change them to whatever I want? This is what I have done for my first test.... changing all instances of 119 to 80. So far, no luck. I hope my host did not block ALL outgoing NNTP data. :ermm: I still have 23 left to test.
The best way is to use the telnet method I described in the first page to find out exactly what is the problem.

As I mentioned before, if you can recieve the message, but not post. It mean the 119 port is OPEN! It means your web server can connect to the news server on port 119 using a high port on the web server.

What the host support might try to say to you if the guy really knows what he is talking about is. The 119 port is not open on your web server to let other people connect to it as a news server. That is, other people using a high port to connect to port 119 on your web server. This more likely is disabled!

For a TCP/IP to connect.

server port:119 <========> client port : high port (above 1024)

Also post some screen dump or test result always helps others to help you.

Imhotep 05-20-2004 11:21 PM
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As I mentioned before, if you can recieve the message, but not post. It mean the 119 port is OPEN!
Agreed, but open one way only! Have you ever heard the term "firewall"? Like I said before, my host has blocked outgoing on port 119. They could care less about incoming. They block outgoing and cite "ongoing usenet abuses" as their excuse. Port blocking is a two lane road. You have incoming and outgoing. Just because I can receive posts does not mean it's open both ways. I hope I don't have to explain this again. :ermm:

And, since I did not get an aswer to my questions, but rather a misguided and thinly-veild scolding, I will have to email my host instead and see if they have a global block on all outgoing NNTP.

SERVER <====NNTP INCOMING====< NSP
SERVER >====NNTP BLOCKED?====> NSP

lierduh 05-20-2004 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imhotep
Agreed, but open one way only! Have you ever heard the term "firewall"? Like I said before, my host has blocked outgoing on port 119. They could care less about incoming. They block outgoing and cite "ongoing usenet abuses" as their excuse. Port blocking is a two lane road. You have incoming and outgoing. Just because I can receive posts does not mean it's open both ways. I hope I don't have to explain this again. :ermm:

And, since I did not get an aswer to my questions, but rather a misguided and thinly-veild scolding, I will have to email my host instead and see if they have a global block on all outgoing NNTP.

SERVER <====NNTP INCOMING====< NSP
SERVER >====NNTP BLOCKED?====> NSP
It seems you understand about firewall and TCP/IP, please explain what port is blocked and what is open, be it UDP or TCP protocol. How about an iptable/ipchain rule table for the firewall?

You receive and post news on the same port! I like to see the result of the telnet session from your web server to the nntp server's port 119. Do you know you can post news in the same session.

Now if they filter your tcp contents, then it is a different story, nothing to do with port blocking.

I am here trying to help you, you do not seems to understand my intention, rather, you think I gave you misguided information just for the fun of it. I shall not bother.

Odoin 05-21-2004 12:20 AM
No nothing has changed since the forum was first setup. It only double posts in one of the forums... the other one has no problem. I went as far as to remove the forum and newsgroup but it still did it... I am going to try a few other groups and see what comes up.


Quote:
Originally Posted by lierduh
Have you changed "useragent" or organization? The latest version checks both useragent and organization in the header. The message only get imported if they do not match at the same time.

Otherwise do you have special charactors in the organization setting?

lierduh 05-21-2004 12:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Odoin
No nothing has changed since the forum was first setup. It only double posts in one of the forums... the other one has no problem. I went as far as to remove the forum and newsgroup but it still did it... I am going to try a few other groups and see what comes up.
Can you get the full header for one of the messages in that group?

recumbent615 05-21-2004 12:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjiyan
Not trying to be big headed here, but the reason this option was put into the Gilby hack, was mainly because I asked it to be, I think to date no one else uses that function in the hack bar me, but it is a very nice function to have.

Anyway, can not wait for you to get this option working again, THEN I will upgrade my boards.
I would have to disagree with you on this, I have been using this hack for quite some time under Vb2.x and use it only for the import of mailing lists. I've also used to to grab the archrive of the mailing lists from news groups that have done the archival. The one thing that is keeping me at VB2.x has been this ability...

Thanks for bringing this up to rev ...


Kevin

Imhotep 05-21-2004 01:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lierduh
It seems you understand about firewall and TCP/IP, please explain what port is blocked and what is open, be it UDP or TCP protocol. How about an iptable/ipchain rule table for the firewall?

You receive and post news on the same port! I like to see the result of the telnet session from your web server to the nntp server's port 119. Do you know you can post news in the same session.

Now if they filter your tcp contents, then it is a different story, nothing to do with port blocking.

I am here trying to help you, you do not seems to understand my intention, rather, you think I gave you misguided information just for the fun of it. I shall not bother.
From Lunarpages FAQ...

Quote:
Do you support ssh / telnet access?

NO

Although the c-panel has an ssh/telnet section, it is disabled on all of our servers for security reasons.
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please explain what port is blocked and what is open, be it UDP or TCP protocol.
My host has informed me that all outgoing traffic, be it UDP or TCP, on port 119 is blocked.

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How about an iptable/ipchain rule table for the firewall?
What about it? Do I look like I am wearing the sysop hat? Do you really think they're going to setup special rules for me?

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You receive and post news on the same port!
I am acutely aware of this fact.


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I like to see the result of the telnet session from your web server to the nntp server's port 119.
see above.


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Do you know you can post news in the same session.
Again, I am aware of this fact.

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Now if they filter your tcp contents, then it is a different story, nothing to do with port blocking.
Which is why I am now wondering if they have a global filter on all outgoing NNTP packets.

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you do not seems to understand my intention, rather, you think I gave you misguided information just for the fun of it. I shall not bother.
I understand your intention completely. I also understand that you might be as stubborn as a mule. My host writes to me and tells me all outgoing on port 119 has been blocked by their firewall. You seem bent on telling me it's wide open (both ways)... simply on the premise that I am receiving Usenet posts in my forum. IMHO, this is inherently wrong.

Odoin 05-21-2004 02:45 AM
I have not changed useragent... but I have changed organization but that was when I first set it up...

I added another newsgroup and still getting double posting... however the first newsgroup does not do this...

Any ideas?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lierduh
Have you changed "useragent" or organization? The latest version checks both useragent and organization in the header. The message only get imported if they do not match at the same time.

Otherwise do you have special charactors in the organization setting?


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