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MentaL 06-12-2003 12:21 PM

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Today at 03:58 AM blackice912 said this in Post #41
You do know that it's been said over a thousand times that the style there isn't the final one, right?
lets wait and find out :0

Xenon 06-12-2003 12:33 PM

@supernut: it's the wish of the developers that they could get real beta related bugs and not hack releated bugreports.
That's why we decided not to allow hack posting of vb3 hacks while it's in Beta stage.
The vb3 hacking forums will be opened in the second the first RC can be downloaded but no second before

supernut 06-12-2003 04:31 PM

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Today at 02:33 PM Xenon said this in Post #52
@supernut: it's the wish of the developers that they could get real beta related bugs and not hack releated bugreports.
That's why we decided not to allow hack posting of vb3 hacks while it's in Beta stage.
The vb3 hacking forums will be opened in the second the first RC can be downloaded but no second before

i never ment anything bad from my comments, but as your not going to allow any VB3 Hacks posted until RC release, i am just wondering if someone is going set something up until then so people that do want to install hacks onto a beta version can

Xenon 06-12-2003 05:10 PM

i never intended you meant anything bad :)

as for your question: i haven't heard of one.
there won't be (of course) any official hack sites for vb3 beta hacks, and i think most good hackers won't make the live of the devs harder than it is, so i think everyone will just prepare it's hack and wait until vb3 goes rc :)

Chris M 06-12-2003 05:28 PM

Too right too;)

It's bad enough for poor old John and co when they get bug reports for vB2 when hacks have caused the problems - Let them be, and let vB3 reach RC before hacking becomes an element;)

Satan

colicab-d 06-12-2003 06:10 PM

i know its abit of one of those things last on there list, but i would maybe finish up a few of the images for the defualt vb3 style before giving it out.. me i dont mind im gonna see what kinda style i can make with it from the box, will make my own images etc, but what about folk who are anxious to upgrade ?

DrkFusion 06-13-2003 01:52 AM

I am excited, coming from a Phpbb background, transitioning to VB (with a bit of oral advice :p) its members and vB has progressed alot, and vB3 will be a new landmark that will be placed in the centre of the village that will mark the history of vB and its members, its progress, its achievements and much more. The release of vB3 in my opinion has much significance.

Lets all hope the vB3 release is a smooth one, their servers for sure will be loaded with users trying to download, maybe some of us won't even get a chance to download it this month, if all their bandwidth runs out :p

N!ck 06-13-2003 02:04 AM

I'm sure they host their own site.

Erwin 06-13-2003 02:43 AM

Another reason why we do not want to release vB3 Beta hacks, and prefer to wait till at least vB3 RC.

A post by DJE on vB.com which explains it well:

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in vb2, all the text is directly in the templates, and to translate the forum, you have to edit each and every template manually.

in vb3, the developpers thought it might be easier to develop a "language system". This system is pretty simple. In the admin CP of the forum, you'll have a bunch of words and phrases that you will be able to translate, without relation to where they appear on the forum (stuff such as "Edit", "View", "Send a P.M.", etc.) These tidbits of text will be used through all the templates, using php code. So if you translate "View" in the admin CP, it will translate it everywhere in the templates where the php code linked to "View" is.

but now there is a catch: since the style has not been developped yet for vb3, the old vb2 templates are still used for the beta, which means that they still contain all the text directly instead of the php code that works with the language system. editing those templates would be useless, as they will be modified for the gold release. However, translating the stuff in the "language system" in the admin CP is usefull, cause this stuff will be used in the final style. So you can start translating this stuff right away, and when the gold is released, all you will have to do is translate the new words/phrases added to the language system that were not added already.

Hope this helps you understand the difference between the language system and the templates
As you can see, the templates are still hardcoded in vB3 Beta, which uses the ugly template being used at vB.com. The "real" language system (which is revolutionary) will not truly be working until vB3 RC. At least that is my understanding. So don't be too quick to hack the Beta - best wait for RC. :)

trafix 06-13-2003 07:40 AM

Scott MacVicar
vBulletin Developer

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Absolutely no where did we say that there would be a release at midnight or 9am or any other specific time.

A release will be made today but we have no set time that I can tell you just now!
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showt...?postid=468491


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