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Max Taxable 10-27-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by englishtalk (Post 2456500)
Show me an easy way to go back to 4.2.2 without losing posts and I'll do it immediately. If not, the previous licenses don't help me.

Take a sql of your database and import it to the new database.

You're far better off with v3.8.8 IMO.

ozzy47 10-27-2013 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Max Taxable (Post 2456501)
Take a sql of your database and import it to the new database.

You're far better off with v3.8.8 IMO.

The structures are completely different.....this isn't going to be possible.

I have heard some people say there is paid services out there that can do it, and IIRC there were some people reporting converting vB5 to some other forum software then going from that to vB4

Max Taxable 10-27-2013 02:00 AM

"Look before you leap" seems to be operative here.

Digital Jedi 10-27-2013 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by englishtalk (Post 2456488)
Perhaps I agree that the surprise shown is wearing thin but that should have nothing to do with legitimate disgruntle. If something isn't fit for purpose, the money should be refunded. Reviews/experience/anything doesn't negate that.

And we'll take the word of the consumer that they've fully uninstalled the software from any and all websites and have deleted their copy, correct? How many days do you get to return it? Virtually no ordered products have an open ended return policy. You have so much time to return them to the manufacturer. How long do you get to run a board before you've decided you don't like it? Do you go back to one of your previous license statuses?

Software downloads are a tricky thing to ask refunds for, considering you don't have a tangible product to return to the manufacturer. Both Apple and MicroSoft have a software return policy that requires you uninstall the product from any computer. But I imagine there are ways to enforce that, and in those cases you have a disc you can return. Some manufacturers allow return of their software only if the package has not been opened. On the other hand, what you purchased form vB was a license, not a tangible, returnable product. What you're asking for, I don't think there's a business model for it.

englishtalk 10-28-2013 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Digital Jedi (Post 2456515)
And we'll take the word of the consumer that they've fully uninstalled the software from any and all websites and have deleted their copy, correct?

I think you're dodging the context here, which is pretty unilateral discontent with Vbulletin. If something doesn't change, like refunds to all downloads, it'll be the end of vb. In any case, they're probably finished - there are so many new startups now that'll take the market.

craigvm 10-28-2013 08:14 AM

just a warning if vbulletin dont like what you say about there software they will stop you from posting on vbulletin.com. i can no longer post on there after saying something bad about there release

Digital Jedi 10-28-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by englishtalk (Post 2456796)
I think you're dodging the context here, which is pretty unilateral discontent with Vbulletin. If something doesn't change, like refunds to all downloads, it'll be the end of vb. In any case, they're probably finished - there are so many new startups now that'll take the market.

Not at all. I'm saying that you're asking one company to invoke a standard that has no precedence, or really good way to do. Based on you're own perception of discontent. Be wary of the echo chamber. A bunch of people getting on the same website(s) about the same subject over and over again, is hardly an accurate measure to go by.


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Originally Posted by craigvm (Post 2456801)
just a warning if vbulletin dont like what you say about there software they will stop you from posting on vbulletin.com. i can no longer post on there after saying something bad about there release

If you're not allowed to say something they don't like, why is your thread still there? You're not listed as banned member.

craigvm 10-28-2013 04:51 PM

i can post on there again now but funny how my posts was moderated and i could`nt start a new thread in the support forums after slagging vb off dont you think

cellarius 10-28-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Digital Jedi (Post 2456845)
Be wary of the echo chamber.

Be wary of rose-tinted spectacles.
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Or, A bunch of people getting on the same website(s) about the same subject over and over again, is hardly an accurate measure to go by.
Here's some sort of pretty accurate measure: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...ddon-situation

Digital Jedi 10-28-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by craigvm (Post 2456849)
i can post on there again now but funny how my posts was moderated and i could`nt start a new thread in the support forums after slagging vb off dont you think

No, not really. You never really said why you couldn't post.


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Originally Posted by cellarius (Post 2456850)
Be wary of rose-tinted spectacles.

  • Do your research.
  • Count your costs.
  • Also hold yourself accountable for your purchasing decisions.

I'm not really sure how "rose-colored" applies here.

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Here's some sort of pretty accurate measure: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...ddon-situation
Um, a thread is accurate measure?


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