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betts02 08-18-2009 07:28 AM

The way i see it is religion is the biggest form of war,everything boils down to religion.
you cant do this and cant do that !!!
in my opinion if you are from the uk then you should live by uk rules,same with any country.
but they dont give a **** about us,they would rather change laws,etc to suit people from other countrys.

as for the nurse she should of not asked to say a prayer,it could offend someone who does not believe in any religion and it is not in her job title or criteria.
do believe they went too far in getting rid of the poor old lass but rules are rules and without them we would be even worse off than we are now.

we should all go back to the 60s,smoke pot,live life and enjoy the love ????

KTBleeding 08-18-2009 06:41 PM

Well, think about this..

A Christian person is ill and dying, and their nurse is a Satanist.. If their nurse offered to say a prayer to Satan for the ill patient, what do you think would happen? Would that family try to get the nurse fired? I bet the chances of that are pretty high.. So because Christianity is more socially accepted, they are expected to be able to do it without any consequences?

I think getting fired is a little harsh, but as I stated previously in this thread, had the nurse minded her own business (which is exactly what religion is and SHOULD be), then nothing would have happened. Period.

Reycer 08-19-2009 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by agitated (Post 1869006)
Alton Towers scrapped the idea because of poor ticket sales. That was years ago.
What was wrong with the idea ? The date was clearly stated well in advance, how is that a problem. It was only ONE day.

No offense, but so was (and is) Gay Day at Disney World.

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Originally Posted by betts02 (Post 1869627)
The way i see it is religion is the biggest form of war,everything boils down to religion.
you cant do this and cant do that !!!
in my opinion if you are from the uk then you should live by uk rules,same with any country.
but they dont give a **** about us,they would rather change laws,etc to suit people from other countrys.

as for the nurse she should of not asked to say a prayer,it could offend someone who does not believe in any religion and it is not in her job title or criteria.
do believe they went too far in getting rid of the poor old lass but rules are rules and without them we would be even worse off than we are now.

we should all go back to the 60s,smoke pot,live life and enjoy the love ????

My wife had surgery a while back. Before she went in, the Dr. looked at my wife and told her that he was going to say prayer over her, and that if she did not want him to, he would stop but he would also not perform the surgery. My wife was VERY comforted by the fact that the Dr. was willing to sacrifice his career for his beliefs. The Dr. did pray over my wife, and she came through the surgery ok. I applauded that Dr.

As far as the Satinist nurse saying her prayer, I would politely ask her to stop, but I wouldn't want to have her job for it. I would still appreciate the fact that she is willing to put her career on the line for her beliefs, and if she did not want to work with my wife anymore, then I could totally respect that.

metalguy639 08-19-2009 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KTBleeding (Post 1870010)
Well, think about this..

A Christian person is ill and dying, and their nurse is a Satanist.. If their nurse offered to say a prayer to Satan for the ill patient, what do you think would happen? Would that family try to get the nurse fired? I bet the chances of that are pretty high.. So because Christianity is more socially accepted, they are expected to be able to do it without any consequences?

I think getting fired is a little harsh, but as I stated previously in this thread, had the nurse minded her own business (which is exactly what religion is and SHOULD be), then nothing would have happened. Period.

Very good point. If it were reversed everyone would freak the hell out.

UKBusinessLive 08-19-2009 04:39 PM

In a funny sort of way i guess if i was in hospital and a nurse offered to pray for me, then its fine, if she did it out of sight and not embarrass me if front of everyone. Say for example if a Muslim nurse or a Hindu nurse offered to pray for me, i'd be well embarrassed in the ward, not knowing what was said or done.

Hospitals and Government buildings should be religion free zones, where people can get immediate answers and problems solved without feeling hurt or embarrassed by the actions of others.

For this reason i now feel that the nurse was wrong in offering to pray for someone without know their full religious background.

:eek:

students_forum 08-20-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UKBusinessLive (Post 1733320)
I agree with you Shelley, I'm not religious, But if someone want to say a prayer for me its cool, I won't be offened by it in fact i'll see it as a compliment that someone actually wants to go out of their way for me :rolleyes:

what about a Voodoo witch?



as an antidote to this thread, I had a lovely Shepherd's Pie ... and that made me proud to be British.

lasto 08-20-2009 08:25 PM

why has the lockerbie bomber been freed - so many deaths and yet this man can return home ?

students_forum 08-20-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lasto (Post 1871246)
why has the lockerbie bomber been freed - so many deaths and yet this man can return home ?

He'll be dead soon, so it doesn't matter where he is now.

lasto 08-21-2009 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by students_forum (Post 1871252)
He'll be dead soon, so it doesn't matter where he is now.

course it matters - if we go by your way of thinking then we may as well release all prisoners because they all be dead soon.

He commited a crime and a heinous one at that so should of died in jail.
When cases come up like this,it always makes me think that some back door deal was done and his release was part of a bigger deal.

agitated 08-21-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lasto (Post 1871535)
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When cases come up like this,it always makes me think that some back door deal was done and his release was part of a bigger deal.

Of course it was. The only other reason would be one of compassion, like Biggs.
The are greater things at stake as far as Libya is concerned. Oil.


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