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pein87 12-17-2008 02:24 PM

My suggestion for vbulletin with this new release is to create a simple program since there already adding a cms why not make it easier for designers to design a skin. I was thinking about creating a mod that has pre-instlled xml style files with there images with an enhanced style control panel to make adding or making your own styles easier. Php has its own build in image abilities why not create a program that can be used soley for the purpose of creating skins? If the cms is as bad as advanced or vbportal is then that will be a let down i expect much more from the forum software leaders then crappy coding. No offence to there coders at all but why code something that looks almot just like your forum? My advice to vbulletin is to create a seperate style system for the cms no on wonts a borad the looks just like there main site and if they add a feature to add a new banner per page then that my friends would be awesome. Just some food for thought and i hope they keep the coders/designers bette informed f the code chages so we can get our mods ported to 4.0 faster and smoother then we can now.

Jafo232 12-17-2008 03:13 PM

My two cents:

Give us better templating. A file based option would seriously speed up development on my end. I am open to any suggestions though.

Expand on the albums. Anything, and I mean ANYTHING that can put photopost in the grave would make me happy. It has become one of my biggest foes lately.

And thank god for the SEO! Not that VBSEO has been a nightmare, they are actually quite good at what they do, it is just another step when it comes time to upgrade. How nice it would be to eliminate that, especially when your someone like me who is usually tasked with upgrading about 20 different forums.

Integration API. Would be nice if there was something in place to make integrations with other software easier.

A CMS product. I know this is separate from VB, but I bet if you counted heads, there are more people trying to use some sort of CMS than VBSEO. It is an untapped market, and could be served well by Jelsoft.

Looking forward to 4.0!

nexialys 12-17-2008 03:19 PM

suggestions are useless people, don't you understand that you're in the bad place for that?!

you can be happy or sad, but it's pointless to whinne or suggest anything to be added... the roadmap is written, and they are always answering clients requests -- the ones made on the official forum for ages...

Digital Jedi 12-17-2008 03:54 PM

That where I think you hugely mistaken, nexialys. Roughly 90% of the features that have been added to vBulletin over the years has been from customer feedback. What you guys have been suggesting is in depth conversations with vBulletin, which even I don't think is a good idea. But just because they don't make the customer a "backseat developer" doesn't mean they aren't listening to suggestions being made. That's a huge misconception. They're listening. Just not in the way you'd like.

Lynne 12-17-2008 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1687386)
suggestions are useless people, don't you understand that you're in the bad place for that?!

you can be happy or sad, but it's pointless to whinne or suggest anything to be added... the roadmap is written, and they are always answering clients requests -- the ones made on the official forum for ages...

As Nexia said, this is the wrong place for suggestions. It's been said several times that the developers do not come over here and therefore they won't see any suggestions posted here. There is a suggestion forum over at vb.com

Wayne Luke 12-17-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jafo232 (Post 1687383)
A CMS product. I know this is separate from VB, but I bet if you counted heads, there are more people trying to use some sort of CMS than VBSEO. It is an untapped market, and could be served well by Jelsoft.

Did you actually read the announcement?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vB.com Announcement (Post 1685846)
Alongside significant strides forward within the vBulletin forum product, we are also producing a new content management system to facilitate the creation, editing and publishing of non-forum pages. Further details about CMS features, and how it will integrate with vBulletin will be posted in due course.

--------------- Added 17 Dec 2008 at 10:31 ---------------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Jedi (Post 1687411)
That where I think you hugely mistaken, nexialys. Roughly 90% of the features that have been added to vBulletin over the years has been from customer feedback. What you guys have been suggesting is in depth conversations with vBulletin, which even I don't think is a good idea. But just because they don't make the customer a "backseat developer" doesn't mean they aren't listening to suggestions being made. That's a huge misconception. They're listening. Just not in the way you'd like.

Yes, but you need to make suggestions at www.vbulletin.com. Developers rarely if ever visit vb.org.

<<and I really hate this auto-merge thing... just to let you know.>>

nexialys 12-17-2008 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke (Post 1687438)
<<and I really hate this auto-merge thing... just to let you know.>>

actually, i have a version of auto-merge that give a checkbox to usergroupsid that let them choose to auto-merge or not...

(sadly, nobody wants me to rebuild this site.. lol)

waza 12-17-2008 05:56 PM

Well, this sucks, I was really into the total rewrite.

nexialys 12-17-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waza (Post 1687495)
Well, this sucks, I was really into the total rewrite.

i can do it for you if you wish... complete rewrite of vB is not complicated... give me 5 minutes and everything will be messed out and uncontrolable... :)

Digital Jedi 12-17-2008 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke (Post 1687438)
Yes, but you need to make suggestions at www.vbulletin.com. Developers rarely if ever visit vb.org.

True, I was merely addressing the insinuation that the developers don't listen at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by waza (Post 1687495)
Well, this sucks, I was really into the total rewrite.

They said it would be new backend code, just over the course of the 4.0 series, not all at once.


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