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Jase2 06-14-2008 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1549152)
There already is a feedback system: Reply to your Paid Request thread with your experiences with the person who took the job.

If we would see that this feedback "system" is used on most Paid Requests threads, then we would start to think about adding a specialised feedback system in order to make it more user friendly. I really don't see why staff should implement something if members already don't use the tools that they already have.

It has to come from both sides, you can not expect staff to do everything for you. Start by showing us that people are really interested in a feedback system by using the tools already available first.

Now you tell me who actually does that? Most the people who come here are NEW to the internet, let alone forums.

I'm not saying that staff should do something, you haven't even done anything, anyway -- apart from create the forum, which takes...10 seconds.

How much more *interest* do you want -- people are voicing their opinions here...and most are saying they want a feedback system. Read the thread..

Like I've said, there is iTrader....that will NOT take very long to install.

nexialys 06-14-2008 03:30 PM

Hum, Jase2, i think you missed the sempiternal discussions we had here for years about support, commercial ads, ranking and rating of coders... actually, Marco have done a lot in the last 2 years here about giving voice for you and the others who are releasing work here...

please refrain your attacks, they are not to be toward what the guys here are doing or not -- because you have no history here yet... you can discuss the topic without flaming anyone.

KURTZ 06-14-2008 03:32 PM

nice words Nexia ... :)

PS. we wanna Nexia 4 Mod! :D

nexialys 06-14-2008 04:23 PM

thanks Kurtz, but i personally refuse to be mod or admin on sites i do not own... lol

Jase2 06-14-2008 06:03 PM

nexialys it is called 'having your say'. I don't even know Marco, why would I personally insult him? Can't see anything in my post that his insulting him.

To be honest, I don't care if I have no "history" here....that is just totally out of context. Hmm....no-one has got a sense of humour like us brits lol.

I'll stay out of this one...anyway!

nexialys 06-14-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1549254)
I'm not saying that staff should do something, you haven't even done anything, anyway -- apart from create the forum, which takes...10 seconds.

This is intended to point to the staff, isn't it?!... and the one you were answering to was Marco... so indirectly pointing to Marco, as anyway he is the manager of this site... so he manage nothing if the guys did not do anything...

anyway, this part of judgement is related to your "no history"... you are new here and you judge for the last months you're here, but you know nothing of what have been done in the last 6 years... i've been here from the start, and i know that a lot was done for the coders, developpers, protecting people, protecting clients from scammers etc... (ok, sometimes it was not obvious until i hit the floor, but hey, i'm the big head here [below boofo for sure!])

hobbybox 06-14-2008 06:59 PM

You can always use a site like rentacoder.com - if you both sign up - the job can be down - you pay the fee to the site and they keep it in escrow - and they will not release funds until the results are good for both parties.

You can post the job - then have the person from this site join - work out the details and boom your all set.

Dean C 06-14-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexialys (Post 1549378)
This is intended to point to the staff, isn't it?!... and the one you were answering to was Marco... so indirectly pointing to Marco, as anyway he is the manager of this site... so he manage nothing if the guys did not do anything...

anyway, this part of judgement is related to your "no history"... you are new here and you judge for the last months you're here, but you know nothing of what have been done in the last 6 years... i've been here from the start, and i know that a lot was done for the coders, developpers, protecting people, protecting clients from scammers etc... (ok, sometimes it was not obvious until i hit the floor, but hey, i'm the big head here [below boofo for sure!])

Well if you're going to play the "I've been in this community longer than you have" card, then let me put my cards down. I've been here before you, I've seen it from both the staffs view and the publics view, and other than trying to educate buyers/sellers within that forum, and occasionally intervening in disputes nothing has been done to stop this from happening. I'm not saying that this is a bad thing, because quite honestly short of a coder feedback system, I believe nothing else CAN or could have be/been done. And that's what we're suggesting here :)

legionofangels 06-14-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco van Herwaarden (Post 1549152)
There already is a feedback system: Reply to your Paid Request thread with your experiences with the person who took the job.

If we would see that this feedback "system" is used on most Paid Requests threads, then we would start to think about adding a specialised feedback system in order to make it more user friendly. I really don't see why staff should implement something if members already don't use the tools that they already have.

It has to come from both sides, you can not expect staff to do everything for you. Start by showing us that people are really interested in a feedback system by using the tools already available first.

There is no validity to this statement. Just because people don't use the system that is in place, which IS NOT A SYSTEM, it's posting in the same thread as your request. Does not mean that people won't use a rating system or feedback forum specifically.

I mean let's say I'm a new customer and want a new code, how in anyway do I search through the paid requests forums for ratings of the coders that were hired? There is no good way to search that. Therefore making the current "system" as you call it, useless.

nexialys 06-14-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean C (Post 1549395)
Well if you're going to play the "I've been in this community longer than you have" card, then let me put my cards down. I've been here before you[...]

yeah,. i did not play that game at all, i was just indicating that from someone just here for some month, he could not say "i've see all and i'm not happy"... and btw, do not look at the join date, i was coding hacks on vb 1.0rc


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