If we go around banning everyone that gets reported for doing this we'll start seeing such threads more often I think. What happens when one of these threads are posted and a respected coder is the one begin called a thief?

The burden of proof is with you guys, and a couple of copy/pasted e-mail exchanges or saying x person screwed me out of x amount of money doesn't prove if this happened the way you said it did. Anything you can show me to prove what you're saying could have been altered...

I'm not calling you a liar, this is just the way things are...

This is why it's important that you do extensive research on a person before you decide to hire them for any type of service. Get references, see what they have released here, and see if they give good support inside of their hack threads and in the support forums. Remember if something smells fishy, odds are it is.

I'm glad to hear you got your money back, good luck finding someone reliable to get this job done for you.

I've always wondered why reputation wasn't enabled on .org. I think it could be useful for people trying to determine if they should hire a coder for custom work, especially if said coder has scammed others in the past.

msimonds, I hope you get everything resolved. :)

You know trader ratings work very well on hardware sites. Maybe it's time to implement a system like that here.
I find it interesting that this person has not stopped in to clear up the confusion or at least to offer his side of the story.

First, it's libel when printed, slander when spoken.

This was blown out of proportion. The guy is stating his side of the story, the other guy has his right to respond. Also, calling someone by username a 'thief', I believe, cannot be held as libel.

Good luck to you!

The problem is, if like you say he is on "dial-up", there is no way he can be banned from here unless they ban his whole ISP which vB.org will not do because they could be banning a load of other members at the same time who use his ISP.

And even if they banned his IP used now, he can just create a new name with a fresh IP. Which he probably does anyway when he rips somebody off like this. I just wish there was something in place here to stop this kind of thing happening.

And I think the "REP" thing is a great idea and a step forward in the right direction to avoid this kind of thing, were people can choose a coder taking there rep into concideration.

i still think that it is funny that some people, while not directly, took his side or backed him, but that he never signed on to defend himself. Even after I sent him the direct thread link

If you are talking about standard vB Reputation, then this is not really usefull. Reputation is based on reputation points received for a post, not for work you have done or how trustworthy you are.


I don't think anybody backed him up or took his side. Some have been trying to keep a neutral perspective on things maybe, but not really choose his side.

No I didn't mean the default rep system, I was meaning some kind of modded rep system were when a person pays a person to create a hack for them, they can rate there service. Something along them lines. Used only for that.

Obviously it would have to be a new hack created that displays this against there name in public view. No idea though were you would even start to create something like that, without other users being able to spoil a good rep by posting bogus bad rep votes for a persons service.

All issues had been resolved I found no reason to come to vb.org. I thought the good staff would prevent such a thread from going so far.

At any rate the issue has been resolved, as stated I had computer problems. Oddly enough these days windows actually has a high rate of virus’s bugs that cause someone to reformat, and hardware does not last for ever.

I had been asked to stop work as he stated and all matters dropped per agreement.

I consider this matter closed and shall make no further posts upon it.

It has been suggested and discussed before, but the outcome for any proposal was always that there where also too many downsides to it.