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nexialys 01-10-2006 03:48 PM

on my side, i would prefer seeing the site itself updated to 3.5.x, and the hacks database updated later...

the goal of 3.5 was to add flexibility to plug any kind of external source to vb... if that hacks database is the reflect of that feature, why would it be complicated to be installed later?

i know that the vb guys want to upgrade only once, that's why i'm ok with that situation... i'm acting the same way.. my new community is not opened yet because some features are not up-to-date yet... the site will open when i'm ok with everything, that makes it undefinitively closed.. lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
Unless I'm reading it wrong, the actual vote seems to be 24/11 in favour of the 3.0 system. I prefer hacks classified into what they do, rather than how they do it, which is the 3.0 way. :)

i don't think that these votes would make things changes anyway... the poll was not called by the administration, and so have no power on things to be... democratic actions are not made by individuals, but by the entire community.

ericgtr 01-10-2006 03:58 PM

Another thought here is if the 3.5 section were setup like the 3.0 only you could cassify it when posting the mod. Say they are posting the mod they could have a dropdown that says something like:
Plugin
Extension
Code

Then that would show up like:
[Plugin] modofication name only in the same way it currently is in the 3.0 section.

Just thinking out loud :)

Borgs8472 01-10-2006 04:13 PM

^ ^
you've touched on some features of the hacks database there.

Corriewf 01-10-2006 06:56 PM

A point loses some validity when it is made so long after the fact.

Tony G 01-11-2006 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgs8472
It seems that the structure isn't going to change until the hack database comes. Unless that's not an official statement somehow.

It's been implied my moderators for quite some time now. But still, the message doesn't get through.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgs8472
My argument is that the hack database SHOULD be taken out of the equation since it is NOT coming soon. On that basis, 2/3rds of voters so far seem to prefer the 3.0 system.

Quite an assumption you've made there. After all this time, progress on it has actually occured. (zomg)

And this one thread is hardly represents the whole community. Not by far.

Lea Verou 01-11-2006 05:41 AM

What I like in the 3.5 classification:
-Easier to find hacks that don't modify code
-Easier to find in which forum to release a hack

What I don't like:
-I don't find the separation between Extensions and plugins useful. Both don't modfy files, so what's the difference? FTP access? Is there an admin out there with no FTP access?
-I would like some classification about the purpose of the hack, like in 3.0 modifications, but definately combined with a separation based on whether it has code modifications or not. The best IMHO would be some thing like:
Template Mods
-Template mod Category 1
-Template mod Category 2
-Template mod Category 3
...etc
File modifications
-File modifications Category 1
-File modifications Category 2
-File modifications Category 3
...etc
Hacks w/o file mods
-Hacks w/o file mods Category 1
-Hacks w/o file mods Category 2
-Hacks w/o file mods Category 3
...etc

Chris M 01-11-2006 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle
What I like in the 3.5 classification:
-Easier to find hacks that don't modify code
-Easier to find in which forum to release a hack

What I don't like:
-I don't find the separation between Extensions and plugins useful. Both don't modfy files, so what's the difference? FTP access? Is there an admin out there with no FTP access?
-I would like some classification about the purpose of the hack, like in 3.0 modifications, but definately combined with a separation based on whether it has code modifications or not. The best IMHO would be some thing like:
Template Mods
-Template mod Category 1
-Template mod Category 2
-Template mod Category 3
...etc
File modifications
-File modifications Category 1
-File modifications Category 2
-File modifications Category 3
...etc
Hacks w/o file mods
-Hacks w/o file mods Category 1
-Hacks w/o file mods Category 2
-Hacks w/o file mods Category 3
...etc

Just think of how many forums that would take up...

That, plus it means we have to move things, and then get people confused about where to find things and everything else that is associated with changing it...

Honestly, there is no point in changing the forum structure yet - Just rest assured that all will be completed soon ;)

Chris

Lea Verou 01-11-2006 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris M
Just think of how many forums that would take up...

That, plus it means we have to move things, and then get people confused about where to find things and everything else that is associated with changing it...

Honestly, there is no point in changing the forum structure yet - Just rest assured that all will be completed soon ;)

Chris

I didn't imply that the subcategories should be as analytic as in the 3.0 forum. What I'm suggesting is the φ* of both.

*search google for that the number phi ( φ ) means in maths :p , I didn't know the term in english :P Something like the "golden cut"? :confused:

Colin F 01-11-2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle
I didn't imply that the subcategories should be as analytic as in the 3.0 forum. What I'm suggesting is the φ* of both.

*search google for that the number phi ( φ ) means in maths :p , I didn't know the term in english :P Something like the "golden cut"? :confused:

Golden Ratio :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

Lea Verou 01-11-2006 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin F

Oh yes! Correct! :o


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