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TheSupportForum

11-08-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartheekb (Post 2379422)

thank you... worked. ;)

np :)

vBBurger

11-08-2012 05:49 PM

Can someone address my question?

With Email Activation on, users are being pulled immediately into the newbie user group upon registration. The usergroup that allows posting, with restrictions. Why is it doing this? They should be left in the "Users Awaiting Email Activation" group until they activate by email. Because of this bug, spam bots are able to register and post without activating their email account. This nullifies the entire purpose of Email Activation. They should only be moved into the new users group after they activate.

Why? How to fix?
---------------------------------

I tried to post a question to the maker of GlowHost Spam O Matic on their support forums. He failed to answer any of my questions and then deleted all my posts. Very strange, and inappropriate behavior honestly. I guess their SpamOMatic support forum is not for support with SpamOMatic

GlowHost.com

11-08-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBBurger (Post 2379460)

With Email Activation on, users are being pulled immediately into the newbie user group upon registration. The usergroup that allows posting, with restrictions. Why is it doing this?

Because it was designed that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBBurger (Post 2379460)

They should be left in the "Users Awaiting Email Activation" group until they activate by email. Because of this bug, spam bots are able to register and post without activating their email account. This nullifies the entire purpose of Email Activation. They should only be moved into the new users group after they activate.

Do you think spam bots cant click activation links if they can fill out a form?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vBBurger (Post 2379460)

I tried to post a question to the maker of GlowHost Spam O Matic on their support forums. He failed to answer any of my questions and then deleted all my posts. Very strange, and inappropriate behavior honestly. I guess their SpamOMatic support forum is not for support with SpamOMatic

You are right, this is the place to seek support.

Your choices are to either use the newbies group after registration or use the users awaiting validation group after registration.

Fivestones

11-08-2012 07:08 PM

works great ty

M.C.	11-08-2012 08:19 PM

Want to thank you for great addon first.

Have question about moderated posts/threads (may be been asked here). In statistic there is:

Spam-O-Matic Statistics

X Spammers Denied Registration

X Spammy Posts Automatically Moderated

But where they located that "moderated posts"? I don't see them....

May be you can add in options that put all moderated threads/posts into some special "Trash-bin" forum and we can put forumID for it?

WBRs

P.S. sorry my english not well

ForceHSS

11-09-2012 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.C. (Post 2379490)

either go to your settings in your own profile or look in the admincp/Moderation

naveeid

11-09-2012 10:39 AM

this mod is wonderful and has helped me a lot to control the spam

tuRiver

11-09-2012 11:30 AM

Is it possible to control usergroup permissons? Who can ban or delete user?

vBBurger

11-09-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2379464)

Because it was designed that way.

Why would you *reduce* the built in security of vBulletin when you could have simply detected when someone Activates before moving them to the Newbies group? Simple solution. But instead you're telling me someone intentionally coded SpamOMatic to cripple the Email Activation feature of vBulletin? Why would you do that? SpamOMatic is supposed to increase security. Not break it.

Quote:

Do you think spam bots cant click activation links if they can fill out a form?

No. Most of them DONT click activation links. Do you know why? Because theyd have to create thousands of email accounts just to do that.

We tried using just SpamOMatic alone. It didn't work. You place new users into a Newbies group ... but how does that stop them from posting? We ended up with hundreds of Spam BOT "Moderated Posts" that had to manually be deleted. One of my Moderators quit that day because he was overhwhelmed with the failure of your plug in to stop Spam.

So I took matters into my own hands and re-enabled Email Activation. Guess what? It all stopped. But a handful are now posting freely because your tool BREAKS the Email Activation function in vBulletin. Apparently the "You must activate" page deters a large percent of them because they can't activate by email like you assume. The smarter ones try posting anyways, and do so just fine because your tool doesn't stop them.

Quote:

Your choices are to either use the newbies group after registration or use the users awaiting validation group after registration.

There is absolutely no reason why this has to be an either-or situation. All you have to do is fix the problem, and SpamOMatic can be used in conjunction with Email Activation. Detect Email Activation before putting them into Newbies group. Simple. Basic code change. Is there someone a little more willing to listen that I can report this bug to?

VBB

GlowHost.com

11-09-2012 10:15 PM

I guess if you don't like it, simply remove the program, problem solved.

You certainly won't get any help with an attitude like that.

vBBurger

11-09-2012 10:17 PM

Attitude? I am just trying to help by reporting a bug. You copped the attitude in your response, as if I was clueless about spam botS, or forums in general. Really caught me off guard actually.

I'm not trying to damage anyone's Ego here. Just trying to avoid endless hours of deleting unnecessary spam. Which is why your tool exists. This *bug* has been confirmed on the main vBulletin forums by a couple guys now. So it would be nice if you'd acknowledge it too.

Why would you give me such a strange, arrogant response, and tell me to get over it, or uninstall it? Wow. Why not take it as a bug or feature request and improve the tool? Is your ego that huge? This isnt personal. Its a bug. It needs to be fixed. And doing so will help everyone.

Ill just pay my programmer $14 to fix your bug instead. Lose the ego.

GlowHost.com

11-09-2012 11:09 PM

You are demanding special treatment. Have you ever heard of the word "please?"

Something like:

"Can you please make this mod do something that it doesn't do already?"

That would get you a lot more support than of an entire thread flaming this mod. If you understood how the mod worked, you wouldn't have this question in the first place.

Email activation puts people into the registered users group. That is the default setting of this mod when you install it.

If you do not like how vBulletin handles this, (since it is worthless, and yes, bots do click the links) you can optionally enable the Newbies system which will allow you to permission the group to your hearts content given all of the options that vBulletin allows for.

What is the point of having real people click a link to end up in the Newbies group?

Is it to make it more difficult for real people to post on your forums? Or in your mind, to prevent bots who don't click links from registering?

Actually, after reading your updated post, don't bother answering. I don't care. Go pay your $14 programmer to do whatever you want with it, he must be talented. All that anger and effort to try and save $14 bucks? Wow.

djbaxter

11-10-2012 02:13 AM

And didn't you get essentially the same answer in your vBulletin.com thread?

Fatal Hazard

11-11-2012 03:53 PM

I have installed it and it works but when I try to edit the settings I get this error:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2012/11/27.png

GlowHost.com

11-11-2012 06:58 PM

Check that you have set the correct permissions on the PHP files that you uploaded. Depending on your php environment they probably should be set to 644 or you can try 755 if 644 doesnt work. That or ask your hosting company to help read the messages in the Apache error logs...they will tell you exactly why Apache is forbidding you from accessing that page.

bzcomputers

11-12-2012 06:59 AM

Server appears to currently be down and denying registrations even with:

StopForumSpam: Query Connection Errors
What should happen if the remote connection times out when querying the new registration?
set to Allow Registration

4 registrations in last 15 minutes denied for:
pam-O-Matic Tagged email - XXXXXXX@xxxxx.com Unable to connect to StopForumSpam.com. This is probably due to some temporary problems on their website: Unable to check. User passed to vBulletin registration system per your settings at 'StopForumSpam:

Unfortunately the last time the servers went down it also would not pass registrations through, even though it was set to fall back on "Allow Registration".

Edit: Looks like it may a temporary downtime, I see last week at the same time it also appears to have been down. Routine maintenance? Hope not.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2012/11/32.jpg

ForceHSS

11-12-2012 08:03 AM

<a href="https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost.php?p=2378937&postcount=2193" target="_blank">https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showp...postcount=2193</a>

djbaxter

11-12-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2380451)

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=2193

Not necessary. Pedigree confirmed recently that at the moment both www.stopforumspam.com and api.stopforumspam.org go to the same place. The issue has nothing to do with the URL.

Depending on where you are, you may also be timing out at times. Hurricane Sandy wreaked havoc on the east coast of the US and power is still out in many places. When I do a tracert for my own site it slows down noticeably doing hops through New York State and Atlanta,

bzcomputers

11-12-2012 02:41 PM

I did have the updated "api" links already installed and was still getting no response from the server. This is coming from Texas.

What worries me is seeing nearly 4 hours of no submissions (presumably downtime) from 4:00AM to 8:00AM local time for StopForumSpam.com two weeks in a row (can't see detailed history past that from their published graphs).

Image below is directly from their site statistics:
http://www.stopforumspam.com/historygraph

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2012/11/25.jpg

Fatal Hazard

11-12-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2380346)

Okay will do so, thanks for the help!! :)

djbaxter

11-12-2012 04:03 PM

As I said earlier (maybe in the thread for the vbStopForumSpam version by pedigree), sometimes their server can appear down for some users and not for others, depending on where you are when you're trying to access it.

As long as you set it to "allow registration" when the database can't be accessed, you'll be fine.

Beatrix Kiddo

11-12-2012 07:01 PM

I don't really understand why but just in the last month I'm all of a sudden getting waves of spam registration attempts that are getting passed this add-on. Thankfully I have my forum set to where myself or another admin has to give a manual approval on the account so technically I have not been spammed. But when I first installed this mod up until just a while ago none of the slimeball spammers were even getting passed the Spam-o-matic...now they are...I think someone found a hack or a security hole to exploit.

ForceHSS

11-12-2012 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beatrix Kiddo (Post 2380612)

try this

Snowhog

11-12-2012 08:46 PM

Are Spammers suck! and Spam-O-Matic compatible? Do they interfere with each other in any way?

ForceHSS

11-12-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowhog (Post 2380633)

Are Spammers suck! and Spam-O-Matic compatible? Do they interfere with each other in any way?

they work well with each other

djbaxter

11-12-2012 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceHSS (Post 2380646)

they work well with each other

Yes. They do not compete with one another but target different varieties of spammers. Glowhost is primarily about blocking human spammers. Spammers Suck is about blocking spambots.

fishinstud

11-13-2012 07:48 AM

Does this work with vb5-connect?

ForceHSS

11-13-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishinstud (Post 2380736)

Does this work with vb5-connect?

this is for vb4 only

zombiemau5

11-13-2012 11:09 AM

BEAST! THANK YOU!

deltahawk5

11-16-2012 03:05 AM

I'm confused...is Easy Clean up something we are able to run manually? If so, how? Our site has been hit pretty hard by spammer registration (almost 100 a day, which is the reason I set up this mod) and I'd like to have them removed if they match anything in the StopForumSpam DB.

Any help would be immensely appreciated!

Syxguns

11-16-2012 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deltahawk5 (Post 2381443)

This mod as great as it is will not help you with the clean up of already registered members to the site.

This is what I do for registration:

I have this mod set to check new registration e-mail, and IP address. I also have it set to auto moderate the first post only, in case someone gets past the mod. The only problem with this is that you have to pay attention to the post to see if it's been moderated, and then allow access manually.

The second thing that I do is use another mod I use is NoSpam!Image Enhancement by BOP5 I'm not really suppose to talk about other mods on this thread, but with the two combined I have few to no spammers.

Manual clean up is required for you at this point. However, with the use of this mod it may take a little time but you can not only clean but you may also submit the spammers when doing so.

GlowHost.com

11-17-2012 02:43 AM

Hi All-

We will have a fix for the MySQL ENGINE/TYPE bug that is repeatedly reported very soon.

Also, a couple other common problems, plus a new feature (well, maybe a couple small ones too) is being added which has been requested many times over. Not telling what they are but this will be ready soon for your holiday present from GlowHost. :)

We are not doing anything major here, mainly code cleanup and bug fixes, because of the need for a vB5 version.

Stay tuned!

PS a big thanks to djbaxter, TheSupportForum, ForceHSS and I am sure I missed a few for your great help and support of this mod.

DannyITR

11-17-2012 10:38 AM

Can someone PLEASE tell me how to fix the problem of posts that cannot be approved. The only solution is to physically deleted them and that's not a solution.

osayidan

11-17-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlowHost.com (Post 2381783)

Hi All-

We will have a fix for the MySQL ENGINE/TYPE bug that is repeatedly reported very soon.

Is that referring to the database error when installing the product?
In the past couple of days I've had more spammers than the rest of my forum's history combined, so this is the first place I came to but I can't seem to install it :(

Code:

Invalid SQL:

CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `vbb_glowhostspamomatic_log`(

                                                                `date` DATETIME NOT NULL,

                                                                `ip` VARCHAR(15) NOT NULL,

                                                                `email` VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,

                                                                `username` VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,

                                                                `message` VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,

                                                                `is_blocked` TINYINT NOT NULL DEFAULT "0",

                                                                `user_hash` VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL,

                                                                `user_id` INT NOT NULL

                                                         ) TYPE=MyISAM;;



MySQL Error   : You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'TYPE=MyISAM' at line 10

Error Number  : 1064

bzcomputers

11-17-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osayidan (Post 2381900)

Answer is just a page away...

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=2199

mrfarb

11-17-2012 04:04 PM

This is the bomb (I'm so old). Installed, and nominated for MOTM.

SRobbins1977

11-17-2012 07:35 PM

Hello,
Im getting the following error:

Code:

Database error in vBulletin 4.2.0:



Invalid SQL:

CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS `glowhostspamomatic_log`(

                                                                `date` DATETIME NOT NULL,

                                                                `ip` VARCHAR(15) NOT NULL,

                                                                `email` VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,

                                                                `username` VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,

                                                                `message` VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,

                                                                `is_blocked` TINYINT NOT NULL DEFAULT "0",

                                                                `user_hash` VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL,

                                                                `user_id` INT NOT NULL

                                                         ) TYPE=MyISAM;;



MySQL Error   : You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'TYPE=MyISAM' at line 10

Error Number  : 1064

Request Date  : Saturday, November 17th 2012 @ 02:33:17 PM

Error Date    : Saturday, November 17th 2012 @ 02:33:17 PM

Script        : http://mydomain.com/admincp/plugin.php?do=productimport

Referrer      : http://mydomain.com/admincp/plugin.php?do=productadd

IP Address    : 0.0.0.0

Username      : Administrator

Classname     : vB_Database

MySQL Version : 5.5.23-55

PLEASE HELP!

Alibass

11-17-2012 07:48 PM

Read the posts...

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=2199

gajinoz

11-17-2012 08:08 PM

I'm about to install this mod and I see there is a DB error when installing and a fix for it.

What I'd like to know is: Should I do this fix before installing it for the first time or just install it and see if I need the fix?

bzcomputers

11-18-2012 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gajinoz (Post 2382034)

MUST be changed before it will install correctly,

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