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GarethBurrows 01-15-2013 05:52 AM

I have just installed RBS and whilst I can set up banners, view them and link to the external site, I have a couple of issues which may be down to my lack of understanding of the configuration (Page screenshots are here (clip1, clip2, clip3):

1. The clicks counter does not seem to be working. Impressions appears to count correctly but clicks remain zero even though I have been clicking the ad to get to the link.

This is the code in the Text box "<a href="http://www.divingincidents.com" target="_blank"> <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2216291/TDF_Test_Images/disms-logo-60px-high_image2_number.png"></a>"

I would like to know how the mod chooses which ad to show as I have 3 ads in the test environment I have set up and they don't appear to cycle through, but appear to be random)

2. When I click on the Banner Stats link at the top of the banner config file, I get the following displayed

Quote:

Warning: require(C:\xampp\htdocs\testdev7\rbs_stats.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in C:\xampp\htdocs\vbseo.php on line 1398

Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required 'C:\xampp\htdocs\testdev7/rbs_stats.php' (include_path='.;C:\xampp\php\PEAR') in C:\xampp\htdocs\vbseo.php on line 1398
which isn't a good thing!

VBSEO is not installed in the test environment. Does it need to be?

Any help would be appreciated as I hope to have the system live at the end of the month for advertisers.

Many thanks

Gareth

y2ksw 01-15-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarethBurrows (Post 2396975)
I have just installed RBS and whilst I can set up banners, view them and link to the external site, I have a couple of issues which may be down to my lack of understanding of the configuration (Page screenshots are here (clip1, clip2, clip3):

1. The clicks counter does not seem to be working. Impressions appears to count correctly but clicks remain zero even though I have been clicking the ad to get to the link.

This is the code in the Text box "<a href="http://www.divingincidents.com" target="_blank"> <img src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2216291/TDF_Test_Images/disms-logo-60px-high_image2_number.png"></a>"

I would like to know how the mod chooses which ad to show as I have 3 ads in the test environment I have set up and they don't appear to cycle through, but appear to be random)

2. When I click on the Banner Stats link at the top of the banner config file, I get the following displayed



which isn't a good thing!

VBSEO is not installed in the test environment. Does it need to be?

Any help would be appreciated as I hope to have the system live at the end of the month for advertisers.

Many thanks

Gareth

1.a. The click counter does work only with images, or specifically crafted scripts. How click tracking works, you may see best by setting up an image banner and view your HTML source code.
1.b. Banners are shown randomly, but if you have more than one banner for the same location, and more than one of the same location on a single page, the algorithm will never show two of the same banners on that page.

2.a. Please make sure you have your .htaccess file setup correctly, too. This message clearly shows you are attempting to route a script through vbseo.php instead of allowing direct calls. On the other hand, you may route this script through vbseo, but must then enable vbseo. It is not true you haven't vbseo installed; you have and it is disabled or not perfectly uninstalled :)

2.b. If you use vbseo, make sure you read the manual about vbseo, too ;)

y2ksw 01-15-2013 10:18 AM

PS: In order to setup an image banner, don't use the Text box, but the Image and URL fields ;)

licensinglinks 01-18-2013 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksw (Post 2395545)
There is no need to fix it. The Google AdSense counts are at most approximate, and will not consider some devices. Please make sure you understand what Google AdSense does and what not. It does not do quite a lot :)

RBS counts also half viewed pages where people are in too much hurry to wait and counts also all visits from spiders which eventually show banners. Google does exclude its own visits. So if your site is visited from more spiders than real visitors, the counts may seem exaggerated, but in fact, they are precise as a swiss clock.

Is there any way I can stop it counting spiders/bots? If I sell 10,000 impressions to a customer it's totally unfair if 9,000 are displayed to bots. :(

Videx 01-19-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by licensinglinks (Post 2397775)
Is there any way I can stop it counting spiders/bots? If I sell 10,000 impressions to a customer it's totally unfair if 9,000 are displayed to bots. :(

If any of your advertisers are dumb enough to count impressions - or even clicks - then they deserve what they get. Seriously, that's no way to gauge the effectiveness of an ad campaign these days.

licensinglinks 01-19-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Videx (Post 2397803)
If any of your advertisers are dumb enough to count impressions - or even clicks - then they deserve what they get. Seriously, that's no way to gauge the effectiveness of an ad campaign these days.

In that case, how is anyone supposed to put a price on something that can't be measured accurately?

licensinglinks 01-19-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Videx (Post 2397803)
If any of your advertisers are dumb enough to count impressions - or even clicks - then they deserve what they get. Seriously, that's no way to gauge the effectiveness of an ad campaign these days.

What's your method of allowing customers to measure their ad campaigns?

y2ksw 01-19-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by licensinglinks (Post 2397775)
Is there any way I can stop it counting spiders/bots? If I sell 10,000 impressions to a customer it's totally unfair if 9,000 are displayed to bots. :(

There is no way to tell which connection is a bot and who not, and in any way, it would not be in the scope of this product. If you need to inform your customers, you will have to filter your logs (not even forum visitors) and elaborate a prospect, which allows you then to tell about the real numbers.

Today, you would count more on clicks than impressions, and exclude direct accesses (which are counted in banner stats). This will give you a very reliable insight into the banner activity.

To make it even more efficient, you would pass an affiliate code to your customer, who would then count the number of visitors who have actually logged into or browsed their site, which is then the most precise information one can get, and the banner stats are then merely a check for you in order to get paid ;)

y2ksw 01-19-2013 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by licensinglinks (Post 2397868)
In that case, how is anyone supposed to put a price on something that can't be measured accurately?

True clicks are a good measure. A better solution are affiliation codes, where the customer will pay you when a specific event happens at their site (login, contacts, site navigation etc).

Videx 01-19-2013 03:04 PM

Right, the sponsor would have to check their own logs to see how much traffic came from you. In our case the ads are local, so one person saying "I heard about you on the website" is worth a million clicks. I also encourage them to offer discounts for mentioning us. Or coupons.

Our main marketing tool is the Unique Visitor count. This may include a few bots, but it gives a figure representing the general activity of the site.

Banners are fairly useless these days (though still necessary) and modern sponsors know it . Even those without ad blockers tend to just ignore them. So we do our best to try to start discussions and write articles about sponsors. Not always easy to do on an open discussion board where people will not hesitate to tell everyone exactly what they thought about things. :)

Dez_U 01-22-2013 04:24 PM

First, this is a great bit of work, very impressed indead :)

Now,

I have installed this onto www.clanram.com and everything is working fine.

I have done the same onto www.refrigeration-engineer.com and I can get everything working other than the forum side bar?

everything is exactly the same as clanram.com but the banners are not showing up. Any help would be great, thanks

Forgot to mention, using 4.2, thanks

Gripi 01-22-2013 06:23 PM

Hi..

i have .swf file in the vbbanners, the banner works, then i click the banner, it open 2 tab:

1. the banner link <- link that i put in the configuration
2. the banner .swf file

very strange, someone experience the same problem?

y2ksw 01-23-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez_U (Post 2398724)
First, this is a great bit of work, very impressed indead :)

Now,

I have installed this onto www.clanram.com and everything is working fine.

I have done the same onto www.refrigeration-engineer.com and I can get everything working other than the forum side bar?

everything is exactly the same as clanram.com but the banners are not showing up. Any help would be great, thanks

Forgot to mention, using 4.2, thanks

Maybe a (server) time problem?

y2ksw 01-23-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gripi (Post 2398761)
Hi..

i have .swf file in the vbbanners, the banner works, then i click the banner, it open 2 tab:

1. the banner link <- link that i put in the configuration
2. the banner .swf file

very strange, someone experience the same problem?

Probably a browser issue, but could be also a banner problem, depending on the code it executes. Do you use the Flash wrapper?

Dez_U 01-23-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksw (Post 2398921)
Maybe a (server) time problem?

its on the same server and the other banners at the top show up fine?

y2ksw 01-23-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez_U (Post 2398944)
its on the same server and the other banners at the top show up fine?

maybe a spelling error? or a missing template modification? or not enough banners available?

Dez_U 01-23-2013 04:22 PM

what do you mean, not enough banners available? ta

Dez_U 01-23-2013 04:23 PM

I can take the code, put it into the www.clanram.com site and it works fine?

y2ksw 01-23-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez_U (Post 2398969)
what do you mean, not enough banners available? ta

if you use, say location 0, for 5 times in all pages and have only 1 banner for location 0, only 1 is shown and the other locations silently discarded.

y2ksw 01-23-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez_U (Post 2398971)
I can take the code, put it into the www.clanram.com site and it works fine?

do you have vbSEO and the HTML cleaning option enabled? that one could also not show some or all banners.

Videx 01-23-2013 05:00 PM

Assuming both servers have all the same mods, next I would suspect a server config issue. Like all those security settings. If they're shared servers just write your host and describe the problem. In fact why not switch off all other mods for testing.

It wouldn't hurt to enable the banners and give us a link.

Gripi 01-23-2013 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksw (Post 2398922)
Probably a browser issue, but could be also a banner problem, depending on the code it executes. Do you use the Flash wrapper?

hello.. yes i use flash wrapper.

very strange, i already try IE, firefox, and chrome, got same problem, and i already remove the link in the .swf file, still got the same problem.

and one more thing, why everytime i open a banner detail in the admincp, then i save it, the banner start time and end time always plus +6 to +7 hours more? if i open and save the banner again without touching anything, the start and end time always change.

y2ksw 01-23-2013 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gripi (Post 2398990)
hello.. yes i use flash wrapper.

very strange, i already try IE, firefox, and chrome, got same problem, and i already remove the link in the .swf file, still got the same problem.

and one more thing, why everytime i open a banner detail in the admincp, then i save it, the banner start time and end time always plus +6 to +7 hours more? if i open and save the banner again without touching anything, the start and end time always change.

We have discussed this a few posts ago ... from about here:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=2147

y2ksw 01-23-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gripi (Post 2398990)
hello.. yes i use flash wrapper.

very strange, i already try IE, firefox, and chrome, got same problem, and i already remove the link in the .swf file, still got the same problem.

and one more thing, why everytime i open a banner detail in the admincp, then i save it, the banner start time and end time always plus +6 to +7 hours more? if i open and save the banner again without touching anything, the start and end time always change.

Could you send me please the link to the SWF here or via PM?

Dez_U 01-23-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksw (Post 2398984)
if you use, say location 0, for 5 times in all pages and have only 1 banner for location 0, only 1 is shown and the other locations silently discarded.

Nope, I use seperate location.

Dez_U 01-23-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Videx (Post 2398987)
Assuming both servers have all the same mods, next I would suspect a server config issue. Like all those security settings. If they're shared servers just write your host and describe the problem. In fact why not switch off all other mods for testing.

It wouldn't hurt to enable the banners and give us a link.

Hi, your mod is working below the nav links but not working in the forum side bar, see here http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/forum.php

ta in the forum side bar where the module head is RE Suporters, I have it in there but nothing showing. I am not useing vbSEO

Gripi 01-24-2013 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksw (Post 2399007)
Could you send me please the link to the SWF here or via PM?

hi..

i already PM you the link.

thanks alot

y2ksw 01-24-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez_U (Post 2399023)
Nope, I use seperate location.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dez_U (Post 2399024)
Hi, your mod is working below the nav links but not working in the forum side bar, see here http://www.refrigeration-engineer.com/forums/forum.php

ta in the forum side bar where the module head is RE Suporters, I have it in there but nothing showing. I am not useing vbSEO

I'm 200% sure you are doing it wrong but I can't guess where. If you can't work it out, please let me know (via PM), how to access your forums.

y2ksw 01-24-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gripi (Post 2399104)
hi..

i already PM you the link.

thanks alot

It opens just one tab, no matter how often I try :)

Gripi 01-24-2013 02:37 PM

hello..

strange.. in here i just try it, open 2 tab, i ask my friend to try it, got same result, 1st click the banner open 1 tab, 2nd click the banner open 2 tab (without refreshing the page).

alaska_av8r 01-25-2013 06:06 AM

Y2 I am interested in getting the banners to refresh every x amount of seconds and have looked at your post https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....&postcount=989

I use vbSEO on my website.

I have two test banners at position 0 that are located in a subdirectory /banner_ads

I used adminCP > advertising > manage ads > rbs0 below navbar and have it to show below the navbar with the following code <div align="center"><!--@vbbanners:0@--></div>

The banners show up fine and will change when I click different pages.

I attempted to use your rbs_iframe.php and uploaded it to the root directory where the other rbs files are. I am not sure where to put the html code
Code:

<iframe src="rbs_iframe.php" align="center" frameborder="0" height="60" width="468" scrolling="no"></iframe>
to make it work.

I tried putting that code in place of <div align="center"><!--@vbbanners:0@--></div>
for the rbs0 below navbar in manage ads but couldn't get the ads to swap.

I could see the page refreshing as it should but it only displayed one ad instead of swapping, it also showed this right below the ad, SEO by vbSEO 3.6.0

Where should I put the html code? Will it work putting it into the ad management system or does it have to be placed in the template itself? Also should I edit the php file since I am using vbSEO to read <div align="center"><!--@vbbanners:0@--></div>

thanks
tim

Maxi62 01-25-2013 09:39 AM

BUG: Too many visits are counted!

The RBS system has more than twice as many visits as the AD Manager. Are there in version 2.3.1 include a bug in the visits?
I do not like to update completely on the line that puts the BUG?

imported_stefan 01-27-2013 05:19 PM

Great Mod. Thanks for sharing it. Just send some money :-).

wilfra 01-31-2013 08:50 AM

From the install instructions:

Quote:

upload all files and folders you find in the upload folder to your forum home

If I do that the vB folders 'admincp' and 'includes' will be overwritten. What am I not understanding?

y2ksw 01-31-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilfra (Post 2400744)
From the install instructions:




If I do that the vB folders 'admincp' and 'includes' will be overwritten. What am I not understanding?

You are using Windows Explorer and this is what it says. You should use an FTP client instead, namely FileZilla or similar.

y2ksw 01-31-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxi62 (Post 2399381)
BUG: Too many visits are counted!

The RBS system has more than twice as many visits as the AD Manager. Are there in version 2.3.1 include a bug in the visits?
I do not like to update completely on the line that puts the BUG?

We have discussed this lately. It isn't a bug. Your AD manager is what? Google Analytics?

RBS counts impressions and this is, really all impressions. Even from bots and spiders and half loaded pages and mobile devices and scripts.

If you have plugins which load the pages again at each visit, this will make 2x impressions, while probably your AD manager is aware of, vBulletin isn't.

Let me explain: If you have a script which underlines certain words in order to link them to keywords, the script may load a second copy of the same page. And that counts, too. I know of some scripts they do exactly that.

wilfra 01-31-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2ksw (Post 2400750)
You are using Windows Explorer and this is what it says. You should use an FTP client instead, namely FileZilla or similar.

I am using an FTP client - Cyberduck.

I actually never tried to place the files/folders into the root directory because I just assumed it would ask me to overwrite the existing folders that have the same name. Are you saying it wont prompt me to do that?

y2ksw 02-02-2013 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilfra (Post 2400877)
I am using an FTP client - Cyberduck.

I actually never tried to place the files/folders into the root directory because I just assumed it would ask me to overwrite the existing folders that have the same name. Are you saying it wont prompt me to do that?

I suggest to try to upload the files into a new folder where it cannot make any damage. For no reason will I assume any responsibility about using an FTP client. This kind of operation should be the Alpha and Omega an Internet service user should have in their DNA. If you haven't, please excercise, but not with my plugin and not your forums! :)

Videx 02-02-2013 02:04 AM

I can understand y2ksw's reluctance to encourage you to play with FTP, but in fact it is designed to merge directories, not overwrite them. e.g. When updating vb, I just change the name of the "upload' folder to "forum" and drop it on my public_html folder in Filezilla. No need to go scrounging around in multiple sub-folders this way.

fxdigi-cash 02-02-2013 06:59 AM

I'm just wondering if anyone has managed to use this mod on vb4.2 pl3 and made it work.... I tried, but nothing showing....

I checked it many times, but nothing worked till now...

any idea???


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