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Morrus 10-13-2008 04:19 PM

Question: (trying to decide whether to downlaod this or vBCredits) - is there a "per forum" setting? For example, can I allow users to earn points by creating a thread in my review forums (which power GARS), or news forums (which power VBA CMS), but not elsewhere?

In addition, when defining levels and experience points, can I define level titles also?

Thijmen1992 10-13-2008 04:56 PM

I can't manage my settings in the AdminCP.
Like:
vBExperience

Settings: General
Settings: Bars
Settings: Points
Settings: Awards
Settings: Shop
Settings: Stats
Statistics: Level

When I click one, I only see:
vBulletin Options

vBulletin® v3.7.3 Patch Level 1, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Strange enough:
Statistics: Level
Delete Statistics
Recount
Manage Awards
Manage Shop
Manage Custom Points
Import another level product
Those are working correctly.
Anyone a solution?

biocyberman 10-14-2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1644028)
I would suggest to change hooks/templates to post instead misc. See for example addon_scrupulous_poster.xml.

I fixed it and save as addon_for_3.7.17_postrate.xml

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1644028)
Thanks for sharing. You will need to add the new Earn Points functionality introduced with 3.7.18 - the CDP has been extended with this.
Also, change the dependancy to 3.7.18 and lift the version to 1.1.0 to show that your hack is supporting Earn Points.

Just for confirmatiion, that change would be for 3.7.18 release. File has been updated and saved as addon_for 3.7.18_postrate.xml
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POSSIBLE PROBLEMS:
There is might be a small problem if somebody installed my previous release of this hack:
This code doesn't seem to work:

Code:

if (field_exists('xperience_stats', 'points_misc_postrate')) $vbulletin->db->query_write("ALTER TABLE " . TABLE_PREFIX . "xperience_stats CHANGE points_misc_postrate points_post_postrate BIGINT");
So one may need to execute MySQL command to change "points_misc_postrate" to "points_post_postrate" by oneself.

AND THIS MAY BE A BUG FOR vBExperience:

awardfields for Awards are stored in table: <TABLE_PREFIX>xperience_awards

For Awards that take points_misc_postrate into account, it will store this fieldname in this awardfields. After I change the field to points_misc_postrate, the awardfields is not updated. So SQL query error is triggered say field points_misc_postrate doesn't exist (of course). This is true for any addon that update/upgrade containing changing of field names.

jerx 10-14-2008 07:30 AM

Will this mod be updated for vb 3.8 beta (maybe RC) or will you wait until vb 3.8 becomes final? Or is it possible for non coders to adjust vbExperience? Eg the security token has been changed during one of the last vbulletin updates and it is pretty easy to solve this problem.

I am asking, because the new vbulletin version has social group improvements which are badly needed. I know that you have released a very fine mod called social forums, which is even better in terms of social group messages, but it probably won' t get updated to vb 3.8.

Thank you!

Phalynx 10-14-2008 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrus (Post 1644218)
Question: (trying to decide whether to downlaod this or vBCredits) - is there a "per forum" setting? For example, can I allow users to earn points by creating a thread in my review forums (which power GARS), or news forums (which power VBA CMS), but not elsewhere?

You can use the CDP Interface to collect data on your own, f.e. just for some forums.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrus (Post 1644218)
In addition, when defining levels and experience points, can I define level titles also?

Yes, in conjunction with usergroups.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thijmen1992 (Post 1644250)
I can't manage my settings in the AdminCP.

Use the default way for settings (AdminCP/Settings)

Quote:

Originally Posted by biocyberman (Post 1644700)
I fixed it and save as addon_for_3.7.18_postrate.xml

Thanks. I changed xperience_earn_postrate to xperience_earn_post to create a valid hook. 3.7.18 will include this addon.


Quote:

Originally Posted by biocyberman (Post 1644700)
There is might be a small problem if somebody installed my previous release of this hack:
This code doesn't seem to work:

Code:

if (field_exists('xperience_stats', 'points_misc_postrate')) $vbulletin->db->query_write("ALTER TABLE " . TABLE_PREFIX . "xperience_stats CHANGE points_misc_postrate points_post_postrate BIGINT");

You will have to increase the version of the code
<code version="1.0.0"> -> <code version="1.0.1">, or just simply do a <code version="*"> to execute it on every install.

Quote:

Originally Posted by biocyberman (Post 1644700)
awardfields for Awards are stored in table: <TABLE_PREFIX>xperience_awards. For Awards that take points_misc_postrate into account, it will store this fieldname in this awardfields. After I change the field to points_misc_postrate, the awardfields is not updated. So SQL query error is triggered say field points_misc_postrate doesn't exist (of course). This is true for any addon that update/upgrade containing changing of field names.

It should be avoided to change the fieldname. But if you change it, you will have to change possibly created awards on your own. Just go to awards, select new field and save.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1644706)
Will this mod be updated for vb 3.8 beta (maybe RC) or will you wait until vb 3.8 becomes final? Or is it possible for non coders to adjust vbExperience? Eg the security token has been changed during one of the last vbulletin updates and it is pretty easy to solve this problem.

Beta 3 will already be adapted to 3.8 Beta 1.

gorentals 10-14-2008 01:05 PM

Anyone know if you can just remove the Activity bar in the postbit?

Phalynx 10-14-2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gorentals (Post 1644865)
Anyone know if you can just remove the Activity bar in the postbit?

You will need to remove it from the template "xperience_gfx".

gorentals 10-14-2008 03:11 PM

Thank you Phalynx

Thijmen1992 10-14-2008 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1644719)


Use the default way for settings (AdminCP/Settings)

Perhaps you have a solution?

WNxWakko 10-14-2008 08:22 PM

Love the mod. I have one request. I don't like having the mini award show up next to the username in the postbit. I attempted to grab the code that goes there from the templates and insert it into my postbit directly at my preferred location however it doesn't work. It gives me a dead image. I viewed the image path and its not including the end of the image name.gif

What is the bit i can put in my postbit to have the award appear other than using the settings? I need to actually code if that is possible.

Thanks,

Phalynx 10-15-2008 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thijmen1992 (Post 1645058)
Perhaps you have a solution?

As I cannot confirm that I cannot fix that. I can take a look on your forum, please provide me a temporary admin account via PM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNxWakko (Post 1645130)
Love the mod. I have one request. I don't like having the mini award show up next to the username in the postbit. I attempted to grab the code that goes there from the templates and insert it into my postbit directly at my preferred location however it doesn't work. It gives me a dead image. I viewed the image path and its not including the end of the image name.gif

What is the bit i can put in my postbit to have the award appear other than using the settings? I need to actually code if that is possible.

You need to attach .PNG or .GIF - take a look at the function "GetAwards" in functions_xperience.php

dataman 10-15-2008 12:52 PM

When exactly are "use of reputation" points calculated? I went in and repped someone, and their points didn't change, nor did mine. After 30 minutes, still no change. What about "rep" points; when does that recalc also, on-the-fly (realtime) or once a day? I couldn't see whether any of the cron jobs tallied "rep use" or "rep" points.

Phalynx 10-15-2008 01:03 PM

Recalculation is beeing triggered by a new posting and the cron, regardless what you did.

dataman 10-15-2008 02:12 PM

So if I rep a post, when exactly should points go up? I've set "use of rep" and "rep" to add points (via AdminCP), but I don't see the increase happen immediately after giving rep. I even went to the cron and hit "run now" on all 3 vBExperience crons, and still no increase.

Phalynx 10-15-2008 02:15 PM

As I already said: A posting is the trigger. If you post something, then all stats, including rep are calculated. This has been done to avoid recalculating every time a user clicks somewhere.

dataman 10-15-2008 02:54 PM

Ok, I understand now. Sorry for my slowness. People have to post to keep their points updated. It makes sense, and rewards/promtes active participation. Thanks for your prompt answer, and for a great product!!

WNxWakko 10-15-2008 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1645436)
As I cannot confirm that I cannot fix that. I can take a look on your forum, please provide me a temporary admin account via PM.


You need to attach .PNG or .GIF - take a look at the function "GetAwards" in functions_xperience.php


Im not figuring this out.

Here is what im manually putting in the postbit

Code:

<img border="0" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/level/award_$awardname" title="$awardtitle">
Ive also tried this,

Code:

<img border="0" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/level/award_$awardname.gif" title="$awardtitle">
However the image path that appears is this,

http://warriornation.net/Forum/images/misc/level/award_
and
http://warriornation.net/Forum/image...vel/award_.gif

Notice the actual image name is not appearing. What variable do I need to put in that image path to have it display?

crazzyustad 10-16-2008 05:55 AM

@phlynx i have already marked it installed, long before.....

here are my queries

ok Phalynx, i am having some problem....

The VBexp tab in admin control is not working.....The Vbulltin options are working fine, but when i am clicking the VBexp tab and then cliking any of settings its totaly blank.

First i uploaded the VBexp 3717 version, it was not working, then i uploaded the Beta version and its same...what to do now??
Already clicked install

can we have a promotion system based on activity. Say if the user has over 50% activity he/she will be shifted to a new group and when the activity will fall below 50% he will again come back to the old group.

jerx 10-16-2008 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazzyustad (Post 1646167)
can we have a promotion system based on activity. Say if the user has over 50% activity he/she will be shifted to a new group and when the activity will fall below 50% he will again come back to the old group.

This has already been implemented long ago and the feature has been listed in the first post as well.

Quote:

Promotion system
To motivate users to do more on your forum I created the promotion system. By reaching defined xperience points the user will be moved to another usergroup - where you can set graphics, shadows, highlighting, etc... What is interesting in combination with this: you can give the user more possibilities f.e. larger avatars or bigger PM box. A log of the promotions is available.

aproape 10-16-2008 07:48 PM

Nice addon! Could you give some hints on how to make a plugin for vbexperience? For example, what hooks should be used, and for what goal? Or if this was already discussed, where should one read about it?

jerx 10-16-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aproape (Post 1646589)
Nice addon! Could you give some hints on how to make a plugin for vbexperience? For example, what hooks should be used, and for what goal? Or if this was already discussed, where should one read about it?

There is an example in the extras directory.

4x4 Mecca 10-17-2008 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646371)
This has already been implemented long ago and the feature has been listed in the first post as well.

thanks jerx, but i think they meant the "activity" catagory which measures how often a member visits and posts on the site. So if they come daily and post daily, they get access to the premium forum.

MissKalunji 10-17-2008 03:07 AM

anyone can help me do a custom for Vbookie? i can provide test forum and all?

crazzyustad 10-17-2008 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646371)
This has already been implemented long ago and the feature has been listed in the first post as well.

u got me wrong, i am talking about promotion by activity meter and not by the point system.
The fault of the point system is that once a user reaches a certain point value, he is promoted to a particular group, but after that he can remain inactive and enjy all the facilities.
But by activity meter, he/she always have to be active

Phalynx 10-17-2008 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNxWakko (Post 1646002)
Im not figuring this out.

Here is what im manually putting in the postbit

Code:

<img border="0" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/level/award_$awardname" title="$awardtitle">
Ive also tried this,

Code:

<img border="0" src="$stylevar[imgdir_misc]/level/award_$awardname.gif" title="$awardtitle">
However the image path that appears is this,

http://warriornation.net/Forum/images/misc/level/award_
and
http://warriornation.net/Forum/image...vel/award_.gif

Notice the actual image name is not appearing. What variable do I need to put in that image path to have it display?

Ok, I got your problem. You are trying to access $awardname in postbit, but that variable is beeing set on hook "fetch_musername". You will need to hook in "postbit_display_complete" and read the awards. Take a look at "fetch_musername" of vBExperience.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazzyustad (Post 1646167)
@phlynx i have already marked it installed, long before.....

Maybe. But it seems you clicked after that on "Mark as Uninstalled" as I cannot see your "Installed"-flag.

gamerfu 10-17-2008 07:33 AM

How come since I upgraded to 3.7.3 P1 in AdminCP -> vBEscperience Drop Down menu the Settings: General, Settings: Awards, Settings: Bars, Settings: Points, and Settings: Shop links show blank pages when I click on them? :confused:

The links work fine if I use AdminCP -> vBulletin Options

I have uninstalled and killed, deleted files, played with version 17, and ersion 14 and the links are not displaying. :confused:

Phalynx 10-17-2008 07:49 AM

I have no clue. It's definitly working with 3.8 Beta 1.

jerx 10-17-2008 08:15 AM

Now, I had some time to test drive vBExperience.

Here are some suggestions:
  1. Display levels overview (how many points you need to reach a certain level)
  2. Adjust breadcrump to vb' s look. Right now it looks like
    homepage - forum
    L vbexperience earn points
    Whereas it should look like
    homepage - forum - vbexperience
    L earn points
  3. Earn points for profile views (your own profile viewed by someone else).
  4. Earn points for viewing album pictures.
  5. Earn points for commenting album pictures.
  6. Only earn points for received renomee, when positive renomee. Substract if negative?
  7. Earn points for poll creation.
  8. Earn points for received votes.
  9. Earn points for voting.
  10. Earn points for calendar events.
  11. Earn points for avatar upload.
  12. Earn points for profile picture upload.
  13. Earn points for signature.
  14. Earn points for birthday.
  15. Earn points for custom profile fields.
  16. Earn points for social group message.
  17. Earn points for social group picture.
  18. Earn points for private messages. Our users should use the visitor message feature in the first place. Therefore we like to substract points when a user sends a private messages.
  19. It looks like you cannot set negative user points for actions. It would be nice to be able to do so, because by doing so, you would be able to limit certain actions. Eg private messaging, attachment views, creation of visitor messages, gallery views, etc.
  20. Do not allow negative values for user points. This is to support the use of negative points for certain actions. Let' s say I have set negative points for private messages, users should not be able to send out private messages if they have less points than the substracted amount for sending private messages.
  21. Starting balance and monthly balance for points. Eg if you set negative points for pms, new users would not be able to pm other people right away. Therefore they should get a certain amount of points for the beginning. To keep users participating on the forums, they should get a certain amount of points each month (like a paycheck).
  22. Donations of points. Our members liked this feature pretty much. You were able to donate your own points to someone else.
  23. Negative values will mess up the system quite a lot. Recounting points would most likely lead to false values. Eg by deleting private messages, you would be able to regain private message sending ability.

I noticed some problems with the level import, if you do not uninstall the level first it sometimes does not update the levels. If you uninstall first, recounting seems to be enough. No need to update points on the maintenance screen.

Is it possible that the instructions for finding the right level setting are not correct? These are the instructions:
Quote:

What level would you advise with X members?
These depends on many other factors. Just import a product, run a recount and take a look at the rankings:
- Top Members are up to level 30-40: Import a higher level.
- Top Members are up to level 60-70: Great. Just keep the level.
- Top Members are up to level 80: There is only small room for growing.
- Top Members are above level 90: Take a lower level.
I think if you get 30-40 for your top users, you need to pick a lower level (if you used level 4, try using level 3). If you do the other way around your top levels will be smaller than 30-40.

If you get levels above 90, you should take a higher level. After the recount you should get levels below 90.

I would suggest taking a lower level, too, if you get top levels of up to 80. Then your top members will probably have a level of up to 60, which would give them the chance to participate in vBExperience a little bit longer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1646897)
I have no clue. It's definitly working with 3.8 Beta 1.

I did not know that. I thought it did not work, because you said that beta 3 will be adapted to 3.8 beta 1. I guess you meant the new features of vb 3.8. Then I might try updating to vb 3.8 before your next vbexperience release.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazzyustad (Post 1646856)
u got me wrong, i am talking about promotion by activity meter and not by the point system.
The fault of the point system is that once a user reaches a certain point value, he is promoted to a particular group, but after that he can remain inactive and enjy all the facilities.
But by activity meter, he/she always have to be active

I see. But I think you need to take other things into consideration, too. Right now, I am testing a new install and imported data from the real site. Therefore only the test users I log into have an activity of more than 50 %. But it is not hard to get over 50 %. I think if you register a new account and login daily, you will even get 100% activity.

Phalynx 10-17-2008 10:47 AM

Thanks for your deep feedback.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- Display levels overview (how many points you need to reach a certain level)

Already implemented

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- Adjust breadcrump to vb' s look. Right now it looks like

Uhm, if I have much much time.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- Earn points for social group message.
- Earn points for custom profile fields.
- Earn points for avatar upload.
- Earn points for profile picture upload.
- Earn points for birthday.

In 3.7.18 Beta 3 already implemented

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- Earn points XXX

Maybe in a later release


Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- Earn points for private messages. Our users should use the visitor message feature in the first place. Therefore we like to substract points when a user sends a private messages.

Not possible as vBExperience calculates existing data. As users must delete message (inbox limits...) this is not very usefull.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- It looks like you cannot set negative user points for actions.

Correct.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- Do not allow negative values for user points. This is to support the use of negative points for certain actions. Let' s say I have set negative points for private messages, users should not be able to send out private messages if they have less points than the substracted amount for sending private messages.

This would need to hook in every process and also replace usergroup permissions. Just wait for the release which will include promotions based on other values than points and create a group which can send PM and one that cannot.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
- Donations of points. Our members liked this feature pretty much. You were able to donate your own points to someone else.

Nice idea. Give aways are included since 3.7.18, but only for items.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
I noticed some problems with the level import, if you do not uninstall the level first it sometimes does not update the levels. If you uninstall first, recounting seems to be enough. No need to update points on the maintenance screen.

Updating points IS recounting. It's the same action behind it.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
Is it possible that the instructions for finding the right level setting are not correct? These are the instructions:

A similar description has been already posted somewhere in this thread. Will include it in readme_levels.txt.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
I did not know that. I thought it did not work, because you said that beta 3 will be adapted to 3.8 beta 1. I guess you meant the new features of vb 3.8. Then I might try updating to vb 3.8 before your next vbexperience release.

Beta 3 will run with vB 3.8


Quote:

Originally Posted by jerx (Post 1646906)
I see. But I think you need to take other things into consideration, too. Right now, I am testing a new install and imported data from the real site. Therefore only the test users I log into have an activity of more than 50 %. But it is not hard to get over 50 %. I think if you register a new account and login daily, you will even get 100% activity.

That is not right. Activity is only calculated on base of postings, not logins.


vBExperience Beta 3 will be released in around one week, as I have many things on my todo list to make it more fit with vB 3.8

4x4 Mecca 10-17-2008 03:02 PM

Hey there! I'm trying to make a conditional to insert something into the postbit or even forumdisplay using the activity field, here is my code
Code:

<if condition="$vbulletin->xperience_stats[points_user_activity] == 100">1</if>
<if condition="$xperience_stats[points_user_activity] == 100">2</if>

Neither one works, any ideas on how I would do it?

gamerfu 10-17-2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1646897)
I have no clue. It's definitly working with 3.8 Beta 1.

The Modification works, but in the vBExperience drop down menu, those "Settings" do not display. Version 17 should work for 3.7.3 P1, right? :(

I will be testing version 18 Beta 2 and 3 *when released* on my test forums.

MissKalunji 10-17-2008 06:04 PM

can someone guide me with the " Manage Custom Points"?

i've awarded someone 10 000 where does it go? i don't quite understand that...i'de like for it to be added in misc and been counted towards experience total point. How can i accomplish that?

on another hand everytime i add some i have to do a manual recount? seems like when i did it it was added to the misc?

sdfaheem 10-18-2008 05:48 PM

Any update on resetting the points, useful for a contest?
Or rather making monthly archive so that users can see their points for each month.

biocyberman 10-18-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phalynx (Post 1644719)

Thanks. I changed xperience_earn_postrate to xperience_earn_post to create a valid hook. 3.7.18 will include this addon.



You will have to increase the version of the code
<code version="1.0.0"> -> <code version="1.0.1">, or just simply do a <code version="*"> to execute it on every install.

Thanks for the fix.
Quote:

It should be avoided to change the fieldname. But if you change it, you will have to change possibly created awards on your own. Just go to awards, select new field and save.
Edit the award didn't work. I had to delete the award and start over or edit it manually through phpmyadmin. Anyway it's not a common problem.

Dragonsys 10-19-2008 06:15 AM

Would it be possible to have shop items be payable from the overall points instead of only one Point category or another?

appsfinder 10-19-2008 09:14 AM

hi how do i get this to work with vbgallery 2.4.3:confused:

any help would be great.

MissKalunji 10-19-2008 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonsys (Post 1648142)
Would it be possible to have shop items be payable from the overall points instead of only one Point category or another?

just choose "experience" as the point field it will use the WHOLE system. he just gave you the choice to choose between field

RenegadeFerret 10-19-2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissKalunji (Post 1647176)
can someone guide me with the " Manage Custom Points"?

i've awarded someone 10 000 where does it go? i don't quite understand that...i'de like for it to be added in misc and been counted towards experience total point. How can i accomplish that?

on another hand everytime i add some i have to do a manual recount? seems like when i did it it was added to the misc?

It should already count toward the total experience point. It goes into the category of Custom which I think is a subcategory of Misc.

One thing I have found is that the user getting the points needs to make a new post, only then will they receive the custom points.

MissKalunji 10-20-2008 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RenegadeFerret (Post 1648570)
It should already count toward the total experience point. It goes into the category of Custom which I think is a subcategory of Misc.

One thing I have found is that the user getting the points needs to make a new post, only then will they receive the custom points.

ah i see that's what i didn't know thank you

4x4 Mecca 10-20-2008 02:21 AM

anyone have an idea for me? My question is a few posts up https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....postcount=2031


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  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • printthread_start
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • printthread_post
  • printthread_complete