As the vbulletin versions have upgraded, yes, this vbShout hack has had other issues, but neither this nor any Dragon Bytes app ever worked perfectly with vbulletin 5.

As far as what version is mentioned in the header, this does not mean that the hack does not work with newer versions, just refers to what version of vbulletin was in effect at the time of the latest version of the hack. Also, with Dragon Bytes they are constantly doing "hot fixes" where they update the hack but update neither the version number of the hack nor the vbulletin version number referred to in the header, so as far as Dragon Bytes is concerned, that vbulletin version mentioned in the header means less than nothing.

False.
The version in header is exactly maximum version in which the product would work well.
That means this product only supports vB 5.2.x, any versions above it are not guaranteed. Also you have no right to complain about free mod. This vB5 just do not support writing modifications, so you can't expect developers spend time and money to update it for free. Would you do it for free? If you paid for the mod you can ask for it on their site.

I'm no related to DBTech, but I just find it amusing to see people keep complaining about mods aren't working for their vB5 without understanding that vB5 do not have many mods. You choose vB5 and you have to live with it, or paid for custom work.

dbTech left several of my clients stuck when they abandoned this project. When you spend time and your clients spend money to have a specific product and then the product for which they paid is no longer viable because the developers don't want to deal with software-specific issues it means you have to come up with alternative solutions for your clients at your own expense. If dbTech didn't want to deal with the issues this software presents they never should have developed products for it in the first place. They didn't develop several products first and then discover the software had issues. They knew the software had issues and developed products regardless, products for which customers paid in many cases. At least one prominent vBulletin 5 customer who spent a small fortune on the product and modifications recently abandoned it for a competing product, in no small part because the premium dbTech modifications he purchased do not work as advertised.

So, when you tell us that we should not complain about "free" modifications that do not work I tell you we have every right to complain. If you leave customers stuck over personal issues over which you have full control you deserve a negative reputation. Even refunding the money of paid clients does not resolve their need for functional products, which is specifically why they paid for those products in the first place. A lot of customers were left stuck and people like myself were left to explain to my clients why products I once recommended highly were a complete waste of their money. Try following that conversation with one about how they need to spend more money for another product or other products.

I can hardly wait until they get their knickers in a knot over the software they seem to be currently in love with and abandon those customers. It's going to happen. They just want to crank out half-assed products as quickly as possible for volume sales. Once the sales slow or stop they move on to the next product. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

In some aspect I could understand your frustration, but it seems DBTech is not the only party you need to blame because major responsiblity is of VB itself for not support developing mods.

Again, this is a lite (free) version so they have no right to complain, if you paid for it you can tell that on their site, they would give you more accurate answer. But personally, I don't think you can ask too much with couples of bucks because develop a major mod consume time and money upto hundreds or thousands. So If I was in their case that can only sell several licenses, I would drop it anyway. It goes the same for the others in software industry, because it's not all their fault but the platform itself. At least they guarantee it works for 5.2.x so as long as you don't upgrade, you're fine. But once you do an upgrade, it's no longer their responsibility to update major version.

But I agree with you that it is their fault for release a Paid version in a software they don't follow anymore, so I only talk about Lite version here. Then again, VB have bigger responsiblity, and you will need to live without free mods, or cheaper mod from now on.

Master of Unive you are apparently not aware that DragonBytes does "hot fix" updates constantly, including many after their header was written, nor do you perhaps understand what this means. Looking back to my direct communications with Dragon Bytes, looks like they supplied me with a hot fix updated version of this and their other hacks as recently as May 2017. After they supplied these to me, they uploaded them here at vbulletin.org as well, without updating their header or their version numbers of their hacks. In May 2017, vbulletin was, I believe (feel free to do the research for me), at version 5.3.x Dragon Bytes has a complicated rationale for using hot fixes instead of updating the version number, again, feel free to message them to inquire on this too. As well their paid versions are currently the same as the ones posted here, taking into account the hot fixes.

Anyway, you are writing a lot here without saying much. Thanks for your input.

Do you even know what hotfix mean? You don't. Hotfix is a fix for serious bugs without changing the version number. It is not regular fix or cumulative update. Hotfixes have nothing to do with major updates, which is what you are asking for. Stop saying what you don't know. The fact that they keep release hotfix for an outdated product proves their responsiblity to not let customers in danger for bugs. But release a new version is a lot more.

Well, I'm write quite a lot because it is somehow painful to watch people keep asking for mods in a software not suitable for mod. Perhaps I should stop now. So good luck.

Unfortunately, your input is so off topic and incorrect, that it would be a waste of our time to further discuss this with you. You didn't even read my entire post, and quoted just part of it. Thanks anyway. Your effort is appreciated.

But, you are absolutely correct that vb 5 changes so rapidly that it is hard to keep up with working hacks. However, my hack,
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=325277
has kept up and still works fine with the latest vb 5 version as far as I know. And even though my header states 5.2.6 my hack works fine with 5.4.1

This one, too, works with the latest vb 5 versions:
https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=319606

so it is quite possible to keep up!

Because I had quoted your post before you made an edit?

But you are right that furthur reply is a waste of time as you never look at the truth and apparently do not know the struggle to maintain major mods (2 you mentioned are not) in an environment which does not support it and has extremly minor user base.

Oh but if you want to see what means responsibility then here I've found a good explaination by DBTech coder
https://theadminzone.com/threads/vbu...5#post-1108100

Oh, they removed old tracker as well as old issues.
http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-1300 This one is about third party login which requested in 2013 and only got a look in 2017. 4 years? And you want developers to keep waiting for them 4 years?
They removed it or hide it in the new tracker. I know because the issue was in my watched list.

why has this mod not been closed since it dont work anymore unless youre using a old version of the software ?

Hi, there are a issue with non english language.
If I'm using the default language I can see the shout time fine but if I'm using another language like spanish in the time I see H:i

Any solution?