I would request all other members to donate a few dollars to the coder. If we all chip in a little bit we can at least appreciate the free time he is putting in for us. It will also encourage him to make it better. I just donated a little bit.

Thanks for a good hack and a lovely support.

Selene, thanks for the donation - it's unneccesary, but always appreciated.

The event should be deleted when the thread is deleted - not sure how it got orphaned? To remove, you will need to manually edit your database to remove that item. Do you have access to phpMyAdmin? If so, look in the vbookie_items table for item_id 3 and delete that row.

Is there anyway to add an event to an existing thread?

not built in, but I should add that sometime. If you really need to add an event to an existing thread, you can manually craft the URL to do so.

Take note of the threadid, and then head to the URL "vbookie.php?t=nn&do=newevent" where nn is the thread ID, you should then be able to add a book to the thread.

cool, thanks

Hi dartho,

Have you considered allowing more than one event per thread? We take our lines (aka spreads) from pro handicappers so when the line (spread) moves we have to create a new thread/event. Currently we are adding games in blocks (see pic) because it was such a pain to create a new thread for each game.


On the surface it seems like it shouldnt be too difficult to implement, would you consider adding a feature such as this?

Cheers

when teh spread moves, simply edit the original. Bets are paid out at the odds that were in place when they were laid

Hi Dartho,

Editing wont work for me, here is why. As you can see in this pic the "odds" on our bets are all 1:1. The "spread" is the number you see after the team name (ie Kansas City Chiefs +1). So when the spread changes, the odds dont. It is easy enough for us to just close the betting and make a new event with the new spread. But then we start having many many threads and it can get confusing.

We would also like to start offering books for the Money Line (the traditional odds based betting) and the Over/Under. However if we make one event with the spread, money line, and ovber/under we run into issues when there are pushes on the spread and over/under. Looking at this pic:

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/external/2010/09/10.png

If Indianapolis wins the game by exactly 5 points, it is a push. But there is no way for us to push that bet while paying out the winners on the Money line and over/under. I hope that makes sense.

Being able to have multiple events per thread would basically solve all of my issues. If you are willing to add this feature I would love to send a donation your way.

So ultimately you'd want to be able to close 'outcomes', and add new ones? I guess this wouldn't help a push unless you could also abandon individual outcomes also - would you better off having spreads with part points, ie. "New York Giants +5.5" then there would be no refunds to worry about?

I'll have a look, but don't hold your breath...

Most games do in fact have part points (+5.5 etc) and there is no chance of a push on those games. We take our lines from professional handicappers (www.pinnaclesports.com for the most part), our forum is gambling related and our users take their gambling very seriously, even if it is just for imaginary internet points. So we monitor the lines closely and try to keep them in line with the pros. When the pro handicappers have a "full point" spread our users want to bet on it. I have thought about adding half points to the full number spreads but it will not fly with my users. (Tangent: this hack is extremely popular with my members, we all love it.) I started out just adding a few games and within a week of having it installed my users were requesting money lines, over unders, parlays, college football, etc.

I have thought about the logic of how to solve my issues for several hours and it always comes back to having multiple events per thread. On the surface it seems like it would be relatively easy to make that work, but I must admit I am not a coder and it seems like it is probably harder than I imagine. I can live with just having multiple threads for my needs, but they add up fast. There are 15 NFL games a week, x 3 events per game (Spread, money line, over/under). So just doing the NFL that makes 45 threads. We do about 10 NCAA football games a week so that i s30 more. We have had requests for Champions league soccer and baseball. The NHL starts in a month, as does the NBA and college basketball is not far behind that. That's gonna be a lot of threads.