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G0F0RBR0KE 08-18-2007 07:18 PM

Can't wait for 3.6.x to be release.

Smitty 08-18-2007 08:13 PM

Is anyone successfully using this with vb Version 3.6.8?

RaidenDAWG2 08-21-2007 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 1320528)
Is anyone successfully using this with vb Version 3.6.8?

Nah, I think there's something in 3.6.8 that breaks it.

I'm working on the fixes for it now...any last minute requests for new features?

Smitty 08-21-2007 08:36 PM

Not from me. My moderators and I like it as is. I obviously can't speak for others, though.

Freezerator 08-22-2007 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidenDAWG2 (Post 1322593)
Nah, I think there's something in 3.6.8 that breaks it.

I'm working on the fixes for it now...any last minute requests for new features?

Yes, please include in the e-mail wich user has been banned. That would be really nice :) For the rest, really nice product, thanks for releasing it!

Smitty 09-06-2007 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidenDAWG2 (Post 1322593)
Nah, I think there's something in 3.6.8 that breaks it.

I'm working on the fixes for it now...

Any ETA on the update?

AFemaleProdigy 09-07-2007 08:13 PM

Just thought I would let you know that I am using this on two sites that I have upgraded to 3.6.8. SD gets a lot of use on both sites. I initially had SD installed, but the upgrade to 3.6.8 wiped out some of the code modifications. So I just had to basicly reinstall spam decimator and it's been working fine as far as I can tell. Been using it for a few months now on 3.6.8. Hope that helps.

Smitty 09-07-2007 08:29 PM

Good to hear. I may go ahead and uninstall it, upgrade vB and then reinstall. I'm surprised no one else has replied here that is using it successfully with 3.6.8.

AFemaleProdigy 09-07-2007 08:38 PM

I was in the same situation... to install or not to install with 3.6.8? I guess I figured that if it didn't work, all I had to do was uninstall it anyway and restore the vb files back to default. It would have been annoying, but no major catastrophe. Granted, I am not saying 100% that I know for sure it works. But it has worked for me so far with no problems. Good luck. Hopefully a new version will come out soon so everyone can be more comfortable with installing it on 3.6.8. :)

AFemaleProdigy 09-07-2007 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidenDAWG2 (Post 1322593)
Nah, I think there's something in 3.6.8 that breaks it.

I'm working on the fixes for it now...any last minute requests for new features?

The one thing I find annoying about this, is that I wish it automatically added the decimated user's ip address to the current banned ip list. Unless I am missing this option somewhere, you have to manually add the ip addresses to the ip ban list to prevent that user from just creating a new account. So I have the decimated threads/posts sent to a spam container thread, then I have to go in and get the ip from each user.

RaidenDAWG2 09-09-2007 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 1333560)
Any ETA on the update?

In this next week I hope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFemaleProdigy (Post 1334476)
The one thing I find annoying about this, is that I wish it automatically added the decimated user's ip address to the current banned ip list. Unless I am missing this option somewhere, you have to manually add the ip addresses to the ip ban list to prevent that user from just creating a new account. So I have the decimated threads/posts sent to a spam container thread, then I have to go in and get the ip from each user.

I can do the current post's IP address with very little problem. Consider it added in the next update.

Smitty 09-09-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFemaleProdigy (Post 1334476)
The one thing I find annoying about this, is that I wish it automatically added the decimated user's ip address to the current banned ip list.

I hope that it will be an option. Many spammers use anonymizers and/or come in from IP pools so banning the spammer's IP is not always a 'good' thing. I definitely do not want an IP to be 'automagically' put in vB ban list when I 'decimate' them.

RaidenDAWG2 09-09-2007 11:51 PM

As with most things in this, it will be optional.

AFemaleProdigy 09-10-2007 07:35 PM

I personally will love the option to ban by ip. You are right about it being a bad idea in some cases, but how else would you deal with a spammer that just keeps creating new user accounts after you ban by user name or email?

Smitty 09-10-2007 09:11 PM

Well, I really don't have too much of a spam problem these days. I have moderators pretty much from around the world, and someone is usually on the site, even on weekends, so spam by cell phone sellers, etc. is usually caught quickly. Essentially we ban the email address. and don't have many repeat offenders (or so it appears).

I guess it depends on your site and how everything is set up, etc., what type of spam you're getting - That sort of thing.

I shy away from banning IPs unless we see a pattern. An individual IP isn't a big issue but when you start getting blocks where the last or second to last set of numbers is the only difference I look closely. A few years ago I was getting a lot of spam from an IP block and I did a partial IP ban and knocked out one of Israels largest telecom blocks. A moderator who lives in Israel emailed me - He could get on with his home ISP (if I remember correctly) but his office computer was blocked. I took out the IP block and the problem was gone. ***NOTE: Do a traceroute on the IP before even considering an IP ban (BUT it should be noted that a lot of spammers use anonymous proxies so even a traceroute is a guess). Since then I've been very wary of blocking IP addresses.

There are several moderators on my site that pay close attention to IPs and look for IP correlations for spammers, which this mod makes easy. The only IP I currently have banned is: 212.247.71.34

I will say this mod is one of the best I have - I say that because the moderators just really love it. I stave off spammers with some setup stuff like a couple of key word blocks, email registration activation, and another mod which allows me to not allow links or email addresses in posts by posters with less than x posts (x for me is 8).

Luckily I can say that we don't get many spammers these days so I can't say it's a problem on my board. None the less, the moderators and I love this mod for quick, easy 'disposal' of the spammer and the post(s).

EDIT ADD: If you're getting repeat spammers (spammers from the same IP) and you get rid of spam posts within 3 to 6 hours, they're probably not the same person. If they know you're deleting their spam promptly it doesn't make too much sense for them to keep wasting their time posting. My board has a lot of moderators and most spam on my board is gone within minutes rather than hours because at least one moderator is almost always online.

Airon 09-19-2007 07:17 PM

I can't wait for the new version for 3.6.8.

Any idea of when will be released?

Thanks in advance. :D

Spinball 09-19-2007 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFemaleProdigy (Post 1334476)
The one thing I find annoying about this, is that I wish it automatically added the decimated user's ip address to the current banned ip list. Unless I am missing this option somewhere, you have to manually add the ip addresses to the ip ban list to prevent that user from just creating a new account. So I have the decimated threads/posts sent to a spam container thread, then I have to go in and get the ip from each user.

You don't always/automatically want to ban a spammer's IP. They may be using an AOL IP address, for example, which is dynamically assigned and used by several people.

Generally if there are 2 or 3 spammers who have exclusively used an IP address, then we ban it.

Edit: Is there any chance you could delete a spammer's blog entries as well? The other day someone registered and spammed the blog. No other posts. Had to manually kill him off.

PoetJA-1975 09-28-2007 09:31 AM

hmmm - subscribing...

Jacquii.

Airon 09-28-2007 03:03 PM

I think RaidenDAWG2 died :(

RaidenDAWG2 11-21-2007 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airon (Post 1348978)
I think RaidenDAWG2 died :(

Almost...full time job, full time classload...damn near killed me.

But...I'm about halfway through rewriting bits and pieces of the 1.0.5 code to get a 1.5.x series out there...next day or two, should happen...funny what happens when people start spamming my site again.

1.5 will have a couple of minor feature tweaks, but it's all backend stuff. None of the front end features will be tweaked, this is more to fix a couple of glitches with the way it deletes posts, as well as give you guys the ability to have more than three usergroups use it.

-RD

RaidenDAWG2 11-21-2007 01:59 AM

Slight update...I've got 1.5 up and running on my server, going to test it out for a few days, then do an official release here sometime around Friday or Saturday of this week.

Looks to be running smoothly (or more smoothly than its predecessors at least), but I'd like to give it a few days to shake out any bugs.

PoetJA-1975 11-21-2007 03:09 AM

sounds GREAT = Thanx

Jacquii.

RCA 11-21-2007 11:51 AM

great, current version is very useful

RaidenDAWG2 12-02-2007 02:42 AM

Alright, due to Jelsoft stealing my thunder (thanks guys, seriously...I'm actually serious here), 1.5 (with the exception of bug fixes) will be the final release of this product. I'll try to finish it up this week for those who won't be going to the 3.7.x series eventually.

PoetJA-1975 12-02-2007 05:05 AM

haha! I was actually asking about that on vB.com - unfortunately subtlety is not my strong point - people were flaming me in the thread and I responded which apparently got the thread shut down like a beezy on feezy fo reezy...

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250028

Jacquii.

ps - if anyone knows what the hell beezy on feezy fo reezy actually means - please let me know - cause I don't http://jpicforum.info/images/smilies...-a/PDT_bee.gif http://jpicforum.info/images/smilies...-a/PDT_daz.gif http://jpicforum.info/images/smilies.../girl_haha.gif

AFemaleProdigy 01-03-2008 02:04 AM

Hope you had good holidays! Just wondering if you were going to release the newer version?

Freezerator 01-03-2008 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFemaleProdigy (Post 1414316)
Hope you had good holidays! Just wondering if you were going to release the newer version?

I don't know if that's needed, because vb3.7 has got his own little spam killing thing :)

Smitty 01-03-2008 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezerator (Post 1414434)
I don't know if that's needed, because vb3.7 has got his own little spam killing thing :)

I noticed that, as well, but I don't think it is as full featured as this mod. This is a nice mod. I hope it is updated or that it works with 3.7.

technom8t 01-30-2008 06:59 PM

ok i have got this installed now and it is nearly working, only thing is i dont se th spam button next to mu super mods and mod's posts, even though i have set the settings correctly in order for this to happen, i tested it also by inserting my (administrator) usergroup id into the setting for my usedrgroup to be allowed to be decimated but no spam button next to my posts either, can anyone help as i would like to have this on my mods/supermods posts as extra security.

Thanks

Bubble #5 02-14-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoetJA-1975 (Post 1393355)
I was actually asking about that on vB.com - which apparently got the thread shut down

There's no reason why that thread should have been closed. It was a legitimate question. When people write hacks vB profits from it. Sorry this hack won't be updated for 3.7. It was one of our favorite hacks and always worked flawlessly. Thank you to the author for taking the time to perfect it, it is appreciated :)

PoetJA-1975 02-14-2008 08:42 PM

Thanx - I thought it as valid question as well ;)

Jacquii.

Smitty 05-10-2008 10:47 AM

Has anyone tried this on 3.7?

W1zzard 05-10-2008 11:34 AM

not yet. my mods constantly complain about the lack of the "spam button" and how complicated vb's anti spam system is. i'll try this addon on 3.7 and let you know

Smitty 05-11-2008 10:38 PM

I just put it on 3.7, tested it and it works. Yes - The button is easier and Decimator has more options.

RaidenDAWG2 05-20-2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubble #5 (Post 1443143)
There's no reason why that thread should have been closed. It was a legitimate question. When people write hacks vB profits from it. Sorry this hack won't be updated for 3.7. It was one of our favorite hacks and always worked flawlessly. Thank you to the author for taking the time to perfect it, it is appreciated :)

Yeah, that's what I thought too, but what do I know, I'm just the author :rolleyes:

Thanks to the guys above for the confirmation that this works with 3.7. I'm officially announcing right now I will work on a version specifically for 3.7 (call it the 2.0 I've been working on on and off for roughly two years...so I'm slow, so what :p).

Given that vB's system only works with the akismet (a detail I wasn't aware of at all when I announced I was discontinuing the extension for 3.7...), I will work on finishing up 2.0 to get it out to you guys sooner than later, although as usual, not promising a date, just promising that I will get it done eventually. I'm about to hit a week or so where I'm going to do almost nothing but code and go to work, so...this'll be on the list.

-RD

Smitty 05-20-2008 08:22 PM

It would *really* be nice if a new version would work with the Blog add-on to kill/delete posts in blogs as well.

I'll definitely contribute again for a revised version. The one built into vB doesn't come close to this mod. It's my favourite and the favourite of my moderators.

RaidenDAWG2 05-25-2008 04:42 AM

I can look into that, no guarantees on this version though since I don't actually have access to that add on or its source code (or even a database schema).

Smitty 05-25-2008 08:45 AM

I'll donate the US$50 for you to get the add-on if that's what you need and will do it. PM or email me if you're interested. BTW, I'm just north of Cincinnati.

RaidenDAWG2 05-25-2008 08:54 PM

That's cool, I'm originally from NE Ohio, now very settled here at tOSU :D

May have to take you up on that in a couple of weeks. I actually just got done finishing the plugin for the new system (won't have to make manual template edits every time you add a new usergroup now, it'll all be based on the settings and the initial template edit, which gets a lot less complicated in the new version).

Working list of 2.0 features (I've probably missed quite a few, feel free to suggest more guys, I'm all for doing a ton of work this summer ;))

-Start new thread in forum X when Decimator is used
-Multiple usergroups per permissions level (i.e. more than one mod group can be used)
-Better email message to webmaster (currently only the user who used SD is in there)
-Option to not allow use on a user with more than X posts, or to protect certain usergroups from use within the script (previously only done within the template).

That's all for now. I've just gotten through the most frustrating part of the development (templates and plugins...ugh...), so this should be a breeze after finals next week :D.

-RD

Smitty 05-25-2008 10:35 PM

I don't know why, but on my board there are a few users with over 1000 posts whose posts show the button. I installed it a long time ago and can't remember what I tried to fix it, but never succeeded. I've just let it be because my mods are totally in love with it. It works. I can't say I have even used the one that's built into the 3.7 vBulletin. I don't know if it works in their blog add on or not (just haven't looked). We got hit by a blog spammer (and there are only a couple of blogs) and I didn't see anything at the time. Actually I don't expect to see much blog spam, but having that easy button there, and all the options, is just too nice. My forum has a great group of moderators so we keep spam under control (often spam posts are caught in minutes because there's almost always someone there). Anyway...

Just let me know about $. My board does quite well. 50 bucks isn't a biggie. I'd be more than happy to help out.


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