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Lesane 04-01-2002 10:11 PM

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Store Main Screenshot (with above admin settings):

E 04-01-2002 11:59 PM

Dam damn damn.. that is dope....... Omg.. cant wait..... Is there gonna be more stuff than USer Title?

E 04-02-2002 08:04 AM

has it been approved for Release yet?

MrLister 04-02-2002 01:41 PM

This is a good hack but it will ruin (not ruin but disfigure) some boards. afterlab has a great forum, the best part is the store parts. It's that little spice that gives it that touch and makes people sign-up and post there. Now if every board had that, people would not have as many reasons to go there because it's "just another board." This is the pure and only reason why I will never post a link to my board. As soon as I post it, people will visit it maybe once or twice to get some ideas and then mass post in requests until my board too is "just another board."

I'm not trying to criticize anybody here, you're all doing what you want best for your board just as I do and will. I've seen the store hack few months ago and have had one installed on my board for a long time with different features. I know vBulletin is suppose to be about sharing hacks and everything but everybody wants their site to be unique and attract visitors because you provide them with something other sites don't. Don't you want that?

Bald Bouncer 04-02-2002 02:46 PM

its hardly unique when at least 5 forums already have the hack installed... :D did you worry about Shinras board not being unique when you placed a store on your forum?? obviously not! :p

afterlab 04-02-2002 03:02 PM

Well WE were the ones making it. That's fine.. If someone was to MAKE one of my features, I made myself, from my Forums.. I'd be fine with it. But when someone releases it and gives it out to 1000+ people, then it's a problem.

Bald Bouncer 04-02-2002 03:42 PM

yep well originally its not your idea so I dont think you got a say in the matter, if shinra came here and wasnt happy it would be different!

Lesane 04-02-2002 03:53 PM

I asked shinraonline (reeve and palmer) about releasing the store hack that i made. They both agreed and didn't have a problem with it. That's very cool from them since i also told them that i won't release my store hack if they didn't agreed.

E 04-02-2002 08:01 PM

Yay. looks like its gonna be released

MrLister 04-02-2002 09:49 PM

Well, as I said. Everybody on this board what they see, if they like, they will take/make/steal or any other term you wish to use including me. There's a difference between 1 person taking it for their board and releasing it to 10,000 people that most want to put on their board. So a ratio between 4 people taking it or 6,000 people taking it. I'd say 4 isn't going to make much difference in the world of "lets have a unique website".
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Originally posted by Bald Bouncer
its hardly unique when at least 5 forums already have the hack installed... :D did you worry about Shinras board not being unique when you placed a store on your forum?? obviously not! :p

E 04-02-2002 10:05 PM

if Shinra say its ok.. and its there hack.. its ok

Reeve of shinra 04-02-2002 11:31 PM

I think the uniqueness of our forums comes from our members.
People with a unique wit and sarcastic sense of humor that blends right in with the rest of them. The staff with thier idea's and laid back manner are also a plus.

I do think the hacks add a certain something to the place, but, my personal opinion is that its not the end all be all. If someone comes along after us and makes a similiar hack, then more power to them. Hopefully they will add something to it that will stir the creative juices allowing some else to make it better yet.

Besides, new idea's are what keeps the members comming back. Not hogging old ones. The store - great as it is, has had its time. Its not the nifty new toy it was a year ago.

And that's just my two cents. Mine, not nessarilly that of my co-admins.

MrLister 04-03-2002 12:44 AM

That's a good point but at the start you need to offer them something unique so that they join because if your forum is brand new and it's got the same topic as a forum with 1,000 members, they are most likely to join the other board unless you give them something extremly unique that will make them want to stay but if you're ok with releasing this hack to everyone it's fine then since you were the original creator of the idea and i do respect lesane for asking you because if it was my site and somebody just released it without asking, i wouldn't be too happy.

E 04-03-2002 01:46 AM

i agree with reeve... my board is unique.. not because of hacks.. but because of the forums and just ideaS of how too have fun........
There are lots of boards like mine, but mine too me and my members is special, and somewhat different personality wise....

mewgood 04-03-2002 01:58 AM

wheres the hack?
Did anyone made this already?
where is it?

Scrub 04-03-2002 03:15 AM

To my knowledge, nope. Not yet. :)

E 04-03-2002 03:43 AM

Lesane is touchin it up... then it will be released

ZiRu$ 04-03-2002 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by E
Lesane is touchin it up... then it will be released
no its finished! and on his site....i want it

Psychdrone 04-03-2002 05:20 PM

hmmmmm something tells me it might not be released
Glad I saved my crapy version of it!

*waits

Lesane 04-03-2002 05:34 PM

Have patience Psychdrone, dam. I will release it like i said above!!!!

It's done now but without the "Buy location" action. I will integrate that action and start making the instructions and hopefully its online tomorrow.

heretic 04-03-2002 10:08 PM

I agree with both points.

but to the people that are making their own RPG hack, etc....

IF YOU DONT WANT PEOPLE ASKING FOR IT, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

Commenting and bragging about everything (like in forum comments), and now complaining because the idea isn't unique anymore is pathetic.

Let me tell you something- 6 months ago when our site came up with a forum RPG, nobody here ever said anything about it. now it's not such a unique thing, and there are tons of sites that will have it soon.
Face it: on the net, nothing stays unique for long. Do what we did - suck it up, or keep quiet about it until it's released. otherwise you're crying wolf.

god, think about Jelsoft, when they see phpbb (which is an absolute ripoff). Just make yours better quality, and have one hell of a community, and people will come to your site.

I go to many forums, but if the community is crap, I don't care what nifty toys they have, I won't go there.

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Lesane, thank you for doing this hack, and Shinra, thank you for releasing one of the best hacks for forums, period.

heretic 04-03-2002 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by neo
I do agree with you e_dove... but that is why I keep all my site hacks / ideas to myself.
yeah, it's funny when you tell someone about an idea, and they leave... only to show up a few weeks later doing the same thing :rolleyes:

E 04-03-2002 10:21 PM

wats buy location?

Bio Hazard DS 04-03-2002 11:10 PM

This is why UBB has such a strong community, because they do not go around bragging about stuff and not give it to the public. And to top it all off, you go and make promises to board owners and even talk about money just to dump the board owner and take all of his ideas and claim them for your own.

Lovely community you guys have here.

Psychdrone 04-04-2002 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lesane
Have patience Psychdrone, dam. I will release it like i said above!!!!

It's done now but without the "Buy location" action. I will integrate that action and start making the instructions and hopefully its online tomorrow.

Naw, I am just saying, I had a little hunch it wouldn't get released cause many other people said they were gonna release it, and didn't so I mean you know!!!;) alright no sweat

Lesane 04-04-2002 06:33 PM

Done!

Palmer ofShinra 05-17-2002 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by neo
I know.. Its really bad.. I mean you can have something on you site no rpg site can live without.. but you made it for your site only... then they request it someone makes it then what?? you get jacked by someone that took your idea... I give 100% credit to shinra online for the store hack and have even asked if I could make a store for my site... they even helped me a little before I could code well... and unless you patent the idea itself.. there is nothing you can do to stop it.. but hope the hack makers will respect that a few sites that created the base of it.. dont want it made.
Yeah, I made it... but even then... the concept wasn't too new for us.
We had been running the "gil and store" since about 3 months after we started our board (and we're going on 20 months now) back on the UBB.

The concept only got noticed after I made the hack... and even then, people didn't care about it for over a month.

People can rip my ideas... *shrug* Fact is, I am the one who's known as the originator of this concept, and still to this day, people refer to "Shinra's Store"

I don't care if everyone and their pet munkey has a store hack now...

The recognition and reputation makes up for it.

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But what you dont understand is that for the people that created this in the first place now dont have a unique forum.. now every forum has the same thing as they do and then it gets old.. its not like "wow they have a site store!!!" it would be more life "just another store... thats it???"
The store was a unique concept... for a while. But it was never a draw... it was never an attracting feature.
No one came because we had it. It did help add some 'stick' to the forum... but it was never a selling point.

We started it because it was a fun idea. We built it up because it's a useful tool.
It encourages good posting. Good posts are rewarded with points.
Bad ones are rewarded with mocking and derision.

Make good posts, and you can have the perks of the forum... title, avatar... BB Code in your title... even renting your own forum for a month.

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Well I asked ShinraOnline if I could use the store idea they they said yes. But I guess it doesnt matter either way.. it will become old and the store hack will just be another hack that everyone has.
Anyone can use the idea. I encourage it, personally... it gets creativity and learning going.
I think it's good overall...

Especially because if everyone does it themselves... then everyone will have a unique store. Mine deals with forum options.
Afterlab's is for RPG items.

Both are stores... but very different.

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Heretic did speaketh thusly:
Lesane, thank you for doing this hack, and Shinra, thank you for releasing one of the best hacks for forums, period.
Why thank you.

Neo 05-18-2002 05:59 AM

*claps* :)

Palmer ofShinra 05-21-2002 03:48 AM

I love you too neo


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