so its not secure?

thats what i understand from that...

From what I saw the plugin basically iframes all the content from their site. Admincp settings shows a blank page unless you disable https.
All your registered members must first register an account with Panjo. When they make a listing its hosted on Panjo and the subsequently created forum thread is just a link to their marketplace. Pretty much everything about their plugin is designed to collect your user's information (rather than using it directly through the plugin) and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails. :down:

It sounds like you activated the version of Panjo (4.2.2) that comes with vBulletin 4.2.2. The latest version of Panjo fixes this bug. The latest version of Panjo, as of this thread post, is 4.2.2.0.10. You can always check with me, Chad, at Panjo (info@Panjo.com) or this vBulletin.org page for the latest version of Panjo.

Thanks for these great questions.

On the topic of https: Short version: Panjo supports SSL. Contact us for some custom configuration help. Long version: Most Panjo partners don't have an SSL certificate. Therefore, all Panjo transaction pages leverage Panjo's SSL to maximize the security and protection of payment information and personally identifiable information of buyers and sellers. Kudos to you if you have implemented SSL on your site. If that is the case, contact us at Panjo and it is possible for us to help you configure your Panjo install to leverage your SSL implementation. The plugin is 100% secure. It was tested thoroughly by Internet Brands (owners of vbulletin) in order to be pre-installed on vbulletin 4.2.2. The plugin works in an iframe that communicates with our servers. This communication also allows us to create threads for new listings, and update those threads when the items get sold or get edited. On-site HTTPs and some mod_security rules interfere with this communication. With a tiny bit of configuration, both of these can be modified to work with our servers. Additionally, Panjo checkout pages and "sell an item" pages open in their own windows and utilize best practices for SSL / HTTPs, and PCI compliance.

On the topic of your admin CP credentials: Short version: Some aspects of Panjo's administrative tools require a NEW Panjo admin credential set. Long version: When you are logged into your Admin CP, you will find a new nav bar option on the left, "Panjo Marketplace." Some of the Panjo Marketplace admin tools require you to log into Panjo's servers to administer. For those remote admin tools, you create a new credential set that is different from your Admin CP credential set.

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Panjo is very secure. Panjo is MUCH more secure than a legacy classifieds subforum that does not use SSL.

"the plugin basically iframes all the content from their site" - not exactly. You gain a new iFrame that provides a visual marketplace gallery and hosts the marketplace functionality. BUT, all the content ALSO gets deposited in your legacy (or new) classified subforums. And we use canonical URLs to improve link and ranking signals for your marketplace content.

"All your registered members must first register an account with Panjo" - not exactly. If a member wants to create a listing, he/she must register an account with Panjo. That process is simply submitting an email where the seller wants to receive marketplace communication. We implemented this step due to the fact that so many forum members had bad email addresses on file with the forum and were missing information related to their marketplace transactions.

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"Pretty much everything about their plugin is designed to collect your user's information (rather than using it directly through the plugin) and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails." - 100% false. Panjo sends transactional emails. Examples: 'A buyer asked a question about your item,' 'your item sold,' 'a buyer made an offer on your item,' 'a seller accepted your offer,' or 'here is your receipt.' We have over 200 forum partners including a number of big boards. If Panjo was in the business of collecting "your user's information... and spam them with Panjo branded marketplace emails," I can guarantee no one would use the plugin. We take the protection of member's personal and financial information VERY seriously. We would be happy to introduce you to any of our partners if you want to ask about our service, attention to privacy, and respect for your membership. Drop me an email at chad@panjo.com so that I can introduce you to a reference site. Check out the 10 links below to explore Panjo partner sites.

BMW marketplace (Bimmerforums)
Radio control marketplace (HobbyTalk)
Porsche marketplace (Planet-9)
Winter sports marketplace (Teton Gravity)
Audi marketplace (Audizine)
Outdoors marketplace (Bushcraft)
Belly dancing marketplace (Bhuz)
Community marketplace (Talk Of The Villages)
Audiophile marketplace (HiFiWigwam)
Slot car marketplace (Slot Car Illustrated

Sorry... can you please explain better these steps.

I have wrote something to Vb site because i'm really angry with them about all these issues....
And there you will found also some tips in how to let live panjo..
In this way look real a disaster... till now you have only 25 installations...
active and imagine in how many forum your plugin is...
So listen my tips and you will see that all will grow...

But not in the iframe way you are making this.

Forum Admins don't want third part iframe on the own Forum.

So please or resolve these things or let us know how to complete remove the plugin on our sites.

You can found... also my tips here: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...panjo-in-4-2-2

Markoroots - Thank you for sharing those suggestions at vBulletin.com. Much appreciated. The Panjo plugin continues to improve thanks to the input of forum owners like you and thousands of others. The best place to follow Panjo improvements and updates is on Panjo's blog under the 'software update' label.

Panjo does not have 25 installations. Panjo has nearly 1,000 installations. Due to the fact that Panjo comes preinstalled in vB 4.2.2 and due to the fact you can download Panjo from Panjo.com, the total count is ~1,000, not the 25 listed on this vB.org mod page. Panjo works lots of big boards that to are too busy running their businesses to come back to this page to flag Panjo as 'installed.'

As for the iFrame - why does Panjo leverage an iFrame? Panjo balances contemporary software development best practices with a world where vB 3.8 dominates. Panjo's use of an iFrame enables Panjo to be agile and quickly ship new features, benefits, and bug fixes. If Panjo relied on or burdened our partners with a task every time we wanted to deploy a new benefit or fix a bug, Panjo would have an install base running many different versions of Panjo. Through the iFrame, Panjo is able to rapidly improve the marketplace tools. Additionally, Panjo is able to provide security best practices to its partners through a use of SSL in a world where most vB forum operators are not using SSL. We don't disagree that a native vB php mod would be more ideal in some senses, but in many other senses it would be a loser. For four years, Panjo has continued to grow and improve. That can't be said for many vBulletin plugins because they took the route you are suggesting. We too wish were didn't have to use an iFrame, but it maximizes benefits and minimizes costs. PS - Take a VERY close look at the way Panjo integrates with the "post new thread" button and thread posts. Panjo's deep integration into vBulletin leverages the work flows and work flows familiar to your members.

Everything is running smooth on vBulletin 4.2.2. Thank you for this! :)

Ahh so there is a new iFrame?? :) But when we have opened for the first time Panjo before to upload the new iFrame who know what is succeeded... :confused:
Ahh ALSO.... Really good. :) So I have to bring to Panjo: advertisement (for all invasive logos and links there are in the plugin), vendors, items and buyers. But how much Panjo pay me each month for this???:D

And then why our suppliers must before register an account on panjo??
Our vendors are our vendors.
I will feel very stupid that to let add some items on my forum from our suppliers, I have to tell them that before they can do this, them must go and create an account in a more big world commercial platform (Panjo) where they have 3000 options more and occasion to work better there. :) I don't think is a clever thing.

The items must be stored in the forum of the owner and only there.
Without any obligatory registration by our vendors on Panjo site, to use the plugin.

But like I suggest in this post these are the things in my opinion to let live Panjo:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...in-4-2-2/page2



All contents must be stored in the forum.
The Iframe must be open and closed by the owner of the forum when and if he/she needed and must be clear and visible what this iFrame do.
This could be useful if a forum owner want share them items in the Panjo Marketplace (the site i mean, by sharing a little additional fee with Panjo Marketplace), or better to fill the own empty marketplace of the own forum, with the items exposed by the vendors in the Panjo Marketplace.

Must be the owner of the forum to decide in what way to use the Panjo plugin.
The plugin just like this is full of Panjo advertisement...


Do you see?? This is a little example...

Chad I'm giving this tips because I like this plugin and I will be very happy to use it and that also your Marketplace Project will work.

Also this can be done simply by our board.

And when there are some fix or implementation you can alert all users to upload the mod like all mod do. :)
I really need to use a mod like this so I'm searching the best solution, but until Panjo don't resolve these things, I'm sorry but I will not install it on my forum.

Panjo's classifieds plugin for vBulletin is happy to announce the launch of a major redesign.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/attachmen...1&d=1412200850

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Looks good

Can you please let me know how to completely delete this plugin from my Vb installation?
Some people says that it reinstall it alone again...
Why?
VB says that them don't know what this plugin do... but include it in our upgrades....

Some other people say that the mod affect all php file...
why???

You don't answer to all questions we made...

I don't want a third part "plugin" installed on my forum that do what I tell you upside and in my previous posts without to have any answer....

So please let us now how to completely remove this software from our installations.

Do not uninstall it, simply disable it.

If you uninstall it, then happen to run the upgrader again, it will re-install it.

....like a virus....
incredible...
great present that vbulletin made to us...

Please give a look at here, when you try to purchase an item, you are redirected to the panjo.com site... :D
http://www.bhuz.com/classifieds.php?...costume-157516

Is a really great way to collect buyers and sellers informations and contacts and have the panjo banner in all the place of the forums, and who know what else....

All the sellers and buyers informations that come from a forum, are property of that forum so you cannot redirect these informations to your site.... :)
More you want put 2 big panjo banners in each page of the plugin???
:)
:D

I think that plugin to work must work like a stand alone plugin

and down the pages of the plugin you add a non invasive banner (like now is) to your site.
I think that this is just more then enough. This can be good for both parts: Panjo and the forums admin's.

And also I'm still waiting for the answers about the questions I have made you in my previous posts.

Then you can do like you prefer.

Most forums running on vBulletin do not have an SSL (secure socket layer) certificate. Thus, in order to provide a secure checkout process, Panjo brings the buyer to a secure checkout page to process payment and collect personal information (like the buyer's shipping info) via a secure page.

In your prior post you asked how to delete the mod. Per the suggestion above, don't delete it, just disable it.

Is Panjo meanwhile available in other non-english languages, like announced by start of the year? Still waiting for a german version.. Sad.

Panjo's vBulletin classifieds plugin is still just available in English. The project to translate Panjo into other languages got pushed back. Panjo supports a variety of currencies:

Australian Dollar | AUD
Canadian Dollar | CAD
Czech Koruna | CZK
Danish Krone | DKK
Euro | EUR
Hong Kong Dollar | HKD
Norwegian Krone | NOK
New Zealand Dollar | NZD
Pound Sterling | GBP
Singapore Dollar | SGD
Swedish Krona | SEK
Swiss Franc | CHF
U.S. Dollar | USD

Currencies aren?t the matter. But the complete non-english speaking communit can?t use your product, when it?s not beeing offered to be translated (through Panjo or the forums owners themselfs). No US-site would offer a third party service to their visitors and members, when it?s only available in Hindu - likewise it?s for non-english speaking forums.
I?ve heard you. May be Panjo should be excluded from the non-english vBulletin versions, at least until it?s available in the language the vB-version is licensed to. It?ll be installed every update if someone is going to uninstall plugins he cannot make use of (i.e. for security reasons aso).

In the others plugins like yours, the payment is made by a Paypal plugin that the coder install in the own mod. So when you want buy something, this Paypal plugin (the more secure platform in the world for payments) make exactly what you are saying and is sure the best secure checkout process for this kind of function, also because is the most used from all.

So there are no reason to use your I frame.

All the world payments are made with this Paypal plugin, why we have to use your special Iframe? :)

In the end, look only a way to collect informations on our buyers and sellers and put for free, tons of panjo banners on our forums.

1) Panjo's marketplace plugin for vBulletin leverages PayPal's chained payments API. This allows a forum owner to optionally set a transaction fee on a user group by user group basis.

2) Panjo's plugin for vBulletin leverages Braintree for the optional collection of listing fees.

3) Panjo's iFrame allows buyers to sort, filter, and search listings in ways that are not possible in thread posts.

4) Panjo's iFrame integrates with Panjo's mobile marketplace iOS app for enthusiasts to optionally allow sellers to manage listings quickly and on the move.

5) Panjo's iFrame allows Panjo to ship frequent updates to the plugin without placing an upgrade burden on the administrator.

6) Panjo provides phone, email, and Skype support for the marketplace. This significantly reduces the burden of service and dispute resolution that increasingly falls on a site administrator. This helps save you time.

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You didn't convince us.

I don't speak about the rest that you write...
But this one is really nice: :)

"Panjo's iFrame allows buyers to sort, filter, and search listings in ways that are not possible in thread posts."

:D :D :D

Nice... :)

But do you really think that we are stupids?? :)

Panjo has released an update to its vBulletin classifieds mod. You can find details on the Panjo blog.

Highlights:
- A "Your Account" link has been added to Marketplace Tools dropdown.
- This new "Your Account" page allows users to connect their PayPal account to become a Panjo Verified Seller, view/edit additional account information, and view Marketplace stats.
- The "Your Listings" page UI has been refreshed to make it easier for users to edit listings, close listings, and mark items as sold.
- Users can close or mark multiple items as sold and tab between items "For Sale" and "Sold.

There was a problem loading your categories. tried every fix. removed seo, optimize. very frustrating. As much as id like to use the product i think ill have to look for an alternative

Did you try contacting our support team? We are happy to help. Feel free to call:
1 (424) 272-0291

As you might imagine, when it comes to vBulletin, the software exists in hundreds of permutations due to mods, plugins, and server configurations. While Panjo works out of the box 95% of the time. Sometimes we need to do a little technical troubleshooting to assist the launch of a new marketplace. Email info@panjo.com or call the number above for the fastest support from us during pacific hours. Our team is based in California.

Hi,

So I'm trying to get Panjo up and running but its telling me it is out of date. I have ensured its upgraded to the latest but still not working.

My only idea is that its not out of date its just doesn't support PL4.

http://narc.net/forums/classifieds.php

vBulletin is 4.2.2 PL4.

Thanks

Remove the XML only then run the upgrade.php you will need to reinstall the install folder to run the upgrade.php make sure you delete folder after you have ran it. It will reinstall the plugin for you

@ForceHSS - thanks for that suggestion.

I was thinking that the issue might be that VA6DAH hadn't gone to:
vB admin > Panjo Marketplace > Advanced Settings > What version of Panjo do you want to run? > New plugin

That (annoying) setting is in there due to a transition we made in the core architecture of the plugin and the need to be backwards compatible with vB 4.2.2.

I am having problems with charset using panjo, they dont show € or any other charset like Ñ or í. I am using ISO-8859-1

Also cant find any translation file for different languages.

Any help would be highly appreciated

Kenas - at this time, Panjo does not have any language packs or support for languages other than English. It will be at least a year before we get to that. Sorry that Panjo isn't a great option for you at this time due to the lack of support for languages other than English.

Panjo just launched a major update to the Panjo marketplace plugin. See the main post for this plugin for details.

I have installed this but it doesn't work on uk currency. I have tried to think of a way around it, but there really isn't one

I love the layout looks good but I don't agree with the terms ... A big NO. Your owrk is beautiful though