Does anyone know a way to allow forum mods the ability to set usergroups, rather than just the admin? I'd love for my mods to be able to use this.

moderators should be able to change a usergroup that's below moderators

there are days I just want to stick this to a user like a voodoo doll pin and take it out before they get wise or check if someone else is having issues. Now I am becoming the sadist Paul and its fun Mu haha

A moderator doesn't have the ability to change usergroups... They can view a user's profile in the modcp, but not change anything. Unless I'm missing something, but I'd love to know if anyone has a way for moderators to have access to the MU setting.

my mod's can change user groups just not change them to moderator and up unless i've set it for them to do it and cant remember doing it lol

Are you on vb4? If so, if you can tell me how you did it, it'd be much appreciated!

Just updated vB to 4.1.9
Mod working perfectly!
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This is great. Thank you very much for your work.

Yes, thank you. This is classic. :)

I wanted to ask if it were possible to tie this plugin with a user-rating system?

What I envision is a situation where users are capable of making a troll's life more difficult by reporting posts. If a troll receives x amount of reported posts within a particular timeframe, the plugin would kick in.

Is this a plausible feature?

You can already automatically change a user to the MU group using the User Infraction Manager.

You can allow members to give infraction points to other members in the Usergroup Manager. But that would quickly turn into a mess, wouldn't it?

Thanks for the info! Hadn't thought of that way to work with it.

I'm okay with the idea of users giving users infractions provided I can find a way to control how many infractions they're allowed to give out. My hope is to find a way to allow the community to (up to a point) self-moderate.

Not sure how well that's going to work, but I figure it's a consideration worth contemplating.

Maybe in Fantasy Land. But in the Real World it's a horror too scary to contemplate. Maybe you're just young and still haven't had the idealism beaten out of you by petty people. :)

Haha, perhaps! Truthfully, it's not idealism that's driving me --- it's laziness.

Quote of the day EASILY!!! :D:D:D

I would seriously suggest not giving members the ability to hand out infractions - war would break out very quickly.

No kidding in a world were you can eliminate hand guns absolutely (neg rep) you sure don't want to hand out cannons to everyone.:eek: just look at how youtubes spam report is abused

I am having the same problem. There is no way I can see for mods to use this plugin unless they have admin access.. Using infractions doesn't really work because we want to specifically set which users go to MM.. As far as I know, mods cannot changer a user's usergroup.

I though of creating a 'banned' group for Miserable Members. That way mods could 'ban' them to the MM group. However, you have to give a 'reason' for a ban and I think a may display that (or a ban notice) to a miserable member, defeating the purpose.

Any solutions for this issue?

Nice mod!

I think you're obsessing for no reason. Assuming your forum is so incredibly busy with griefers that you would even think about using this more than once a month, what's wrong with using the automatic infraction system to engage it?

Maybe you just need to promote more admins - how many do you have now on such a busy site?

Also know that these days this mod is becoming a lot less effective since people have access to a lot of different computers in a way they didn't a few years ago.

Obsessing? I made one post. Yes it's incredibly busy.. Why don't you worry about how you run your forum and I'll worry about mine. I know what works on mine. This is about the mod's features -- having it accessed by supermods and not only admins. No I don't want to use infractions for this because it defeats the point of them seeing their infractions (and hiding the power of MM). If you use infractions with MM, you basically can't use it for anything else.

You're arguing against the usefulness of this mod... It IS quite useful, and if mods can permanently BAN a member, they surely should be able to make them MM (which is a slightly lower action to take).

I might be wrong, but I am thinking that in your moderator permissions you can allow "manage usergroups" and this will allow them to put users in the "Miserable Users" usergroup.

Unfortunately, that option doesn't exist.

Yes if you make them Super Moderators, you can permission them to manage usergroups. Therefore they will be able to place users in this MU group.

There is no such ability in default vBulletin.

So... They would have to make them a administrator, and set permissions the same as a super moderator, or even less - with the exception of the ability to manage usergroups?

Could they create a new usergroup based off the administrator usergroup, call it something like "Board Moderator" and do the same thing?

Thanks for the suggestion, but this won't work (I already tried it). There are some features administrators have that cannot be turned off. They unfortunately can't be made to just have mod powers.

I have one such administrator, done this way so he could manage only smilies. And that's all he has powers for above and beyond a moderator. But then again I use v3.8.7 not v4 so, maybe there's a difference there.

Just a quickie on this, but I never realised this until today when I caught someone doing it.

Miserable users doesn't work on the archive. Meaning people smart enough (as my user was) can at least READ posts by using the archive link.

I fixed this by copying the contacts of the Miserable Users plugin at global_bootstrap_init_start, into a new plugin at archive_global.

It *seems* to work ok, I haven't done extensive testing though so don't blame me if anything goes wrong. :)

No it doesnt. I was actually aware of that, but no one has ever mentioned it until now.

The main reason I guess is that you cannot post from the archive, its more or less the same as logging out and reading as a guest.

My particular user is also "miserabled" by IP address (as theirs is fixed), so logging out won't do them a fat lot of good. :p

Not really a problem, just thought I'd mention it. I too had never given it any thought (I don't really 'miserable' people very often) until I noticed this person viewing the archives in WOL, so i thought, 'oh no you don't!'

I guess it's all about whether you just want to stop them POSTING, or don't really want them READING either. I should probably just ban this person but I like being a bit more subtle.

Any way to download earlier versions? My god man, not everyone can upgrade and there are a few loose cannons that need to feel this plugin's wrath. Hook it up Paul, 4.0.7!!

Thanks very much Paul... some people really deserve this!

Lol!! I Love It! :))

It's working on 4.2, but shouldn't this be upgraded ?

Regards,,

Thanks for this update, Paul! :)

Works great with 4.2

Thanks. Marking as installed.

Great Mod.

Can someone in the Miserable user usergroup ever get to see what they want ? Is there a way to make it so everything works fine like 25% of the time ? Would I just adjust the other percentages to total 75% ?

Yes.

Yes, you can set any values you like, they dont need to total 100.

Excellent, thank you.......:D