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i did it.... THX
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I am looking for ideas for the next upgrade of this addon.
The most common request I've received so far is to store access in the database making it harder for people to get around the block attempts (i.e. they can not just clear cookies). If this is something you would like please post to this thread indicating that. Based on feedback I will decide if this should be added (as an option of course). Please let me know if you have any other suggestions as well. |
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Thanks for all of the work you've done on this btw, it's a wonderful add-on! :) |
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Your add-on really is the best compromise for keeping a certain standard of privacy in public forums. You did an outstandig job regarding this add-on. As once the awesome Warriors of Time in a breathtaking demo on the legendary C64 stated: Membership has privileges. This is also true for forums. :) |
nice add on installed.
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Hi Ted S, and if to disconnect cookies it is possible to go on a forum under the pretext of search engine bots :confused:
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thanks for a great mod |
Well. What difference between versions 1.2.1 and 1.2.2?
Has Compared the files, all equally, differences has not seen. |
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Thanks Ted S ;)
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Look for version 2.0 of this addon featuring database logging coming soon. To participate in the beta of this new version please contact me.
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was looking for this mod all the way.
i have installed "hide links from guest users" would there be a problem to use both? |
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Installed, and I'm very happy with this kind of add-on that give an extra value to our registered users. Thank you so much.
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Hey Ted, I installed the upgrade that is supposed to check IP's so that a person can't just clear their cookies and continue to read. Initially I just upgraded and I was still able to clear cookies and keep reading. Then I uninstalled it completely and reinstalled and I'm still able to clear cookies and keep reading.
Is there something else I need to turn on that I'm missing? vBulletin version: 3.7.4 P1 LGV version: 3.7 Upgrade Website Address: http://www.houseofparents.com Browser: FireFox 3.0.4 |
Right after I posted the previous message I decided just on a whim to check IE and see if it might be a Firefox issue aaaand. It works perfectly in IE, but I can still view the forums through Firefox 3.0.4, IE is v.7 so maybe it's just a Firefox issue. I don't run Safari so I couldn't tell you what happens with it.
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i would love to beta test
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Doesn't this mod conflict with vbseo? I'm highly interested in this mod since it will increase membersignups for sure but if traffic decreases.
Please let me know! |
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Exactly what is the point in forcing somone to do something you want them to do...? all they will do is register, take/view what they want, and be gone...because if they have no intentions of staying then they wont, all you have done is forced them to create an account and thats it...9 out of 10 people mostly never return...and how is that number going to change by doing force registrations? and if guests are blocked by limitations, how about search engines? are they blocked also
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use the actual hostname? I guess anyone could just as easy change an ip as they are not constant...but how easy is it to avoid your hostname, other then going over to a friends house, thus using another connection. IE: The IP Address is: 92.113.147.159 The host name is: 159-147-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net Tomorrow this IP number may change, but the host name will not...vb uses this in their ip tracking/banning options. however, I am not 100% certain on how all this works...whoever is working on this hack probably would have a better understanding on what I am talking about and if it would work or not. |
Host names can change just as easily as the IP and generally if one is dynamic the other is as well. Take a look at your example where there hostname is the ip (backwards) followed by the host's address. There are some isps who keep constant subnets but it's not common to let one id change and not the other as the two are usually related.
Remember, unlike bans we're working to get a 1-to-1 relationship so identifying entire host subnets would be ineffective. IPs are also limited as they can change and are duplicated by some ISPs which is why I did not include this initially. The reality of the internet is that there is absolutely no way to insure someone is the same person when they return to a site. |
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As far as why, well as fool.com will tell you, requesting a simple data capture on content pages has huge results. Does forcing someone to register guarantee they will post? Absolutely not. However once someone registers you have the opportunity to engage them 1-on-1 via email whether it be the welcome email, a reminder email, newsletter or any other communication piece you're now talking to someone. Additionally once someone has an account they can contribute without having to go through any hurtles. Think about it, someone viewing a page may not want much more involvement but at 10 views or 20 views or 50 views if they haven’t participated in any form do they necessarily know they can? Is a message telling them to register something forced or something helpful? Many sites find that the people who use this sort of message and/ or block find their experience better because they have a next step [a conversion goal] and that people participate once they’ve engaged enough to reach this stage and are given a push to register. That said the user experience is the most important part of your site and something you should never ever, ever ignore. Of course forcing someone to do something sounds horrible with this in mind each admin has to think about how they want to set things and at what point their ability to drive goals (registrations) outweighs interfering with the user. A smart site customizes their block message, gives users options and provides value. Simply blocking people on 2 views is likely not going to get the results or response one wants but that’s not the point here. On the other hand, giving them a warning at 5 views, a lock at 15 and options to help them decide what to do as well as a way to participate, get answers, share, etc… is value and that’s a great experience. Again, each admin has to decide how to best reach their goals while maintain a good balance of benefits for guests and members. It looks like you didn't read the main post or install file but no worries, I'll explain things again. Spiders don't generally accept cookies and thus aren't subject to this addon [which is cookie based] unless someone sets things to block guests at 0 views which is possible but not how this addon should be used (just restricting the guest group would be more logical). Additionally the addon is hardcoded to skip bots with the hostname google, yahoo, aol and msn. This doesn't make things perfect of course hence why this is well documented in the addon install file but to date no verified issues have been brought foward. |
one question before i download,
Does this also stop google from searching my forum after so many? |
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My first add-on, no problems at all. Thank You Ted |
thanks, but after those changes, what about bots ??
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Does this mod still support vb3.80beta4?
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I have a parenting site and most of my members do not like the fact that anyone can just "lurk" on the site and read about their issues and they don't know who they are. And while *I* know it's the internet and if you are going to post personal stuff on an internet site you might as well take an ad out in the AP, these ppl think that if they have restrictions and private forums then they are safe. I run into the dilemma do I shut the whole board down to unregistered ppl or do I tell my members to suck up and deal with it? This add-on gives me the opportunity to compromise. I can set it up where certain General forums can be viewed by guests and the other forums with more personal details are kept away from non-registered ppl. I also have it set up to where after the viewing of one thread it tells the person they need to register to view more and once they have registered we have a welcoming committee that leaves Welcome messages on their visitor page to help break the ice and then we encourage the new members to post an intro in our Introductions forum. So far since I've put in this add-on and created the Welcoming Committee, 9 out of every 10 ppl that register have become active members. Before the addon there was no reason to register because they could read without having to interact and when I shut it down to unregistered user, they wouldn't come by cause there was nothing to encourage them to want to be a part of the site. It's a good balance you need to find to get ppl to participate and I'm still working on it daily but it is slowly working for me. Great Add-on Ted, and when used like it's designed to be used it really is very helpful. Thanks again for your work. |
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