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akanevsky 08-01-2005 12:52 PM

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Reason = I don't like MS too much
Jeez...
Anyway, how about this: make two versions, a PDF and a CHM, to satisfy both those who like and those who dislike MS. Please thanks :)

Revan 08-01-2005 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KirbyDE
Reason = I don't like MS too much :)

That's really anal. That's like saying "I refuse to zip my hacks because I hate the WinZip program. I am blatantly ignoring the fact that WinRar/WinAce/[insert name of unpacking software for Mac/Linux/Unix] can unpack these files."
Making the How-to's HARDER to use is IMHO completely against the point of making them. I consider this a kick in the nuts to the community. This paragraph (and only this) will be retracted if someone can show me a way to copy/paste from Adobe Reader. I refuse to install any other piece of software to be able to copy/paste from a .pdf document, as I do not feel the need to clutter my computer with crap that will be used 1 or 2 times.
At any rate, see if you can stop me from making CHM files on my own computer (not to distribute).

Now to get back on the actual topic:
Ive learned the hard way that settings have to be volatile for them to be able to export properly, but won't this erase them on upgrade? The code in the xml_import_settings() makes me think that if you are trying to re-import settings that are marked as volatile, it will recreate these settings. This is not a desired effect, so I hope someone can prove me wrong :p

Andreas 08-01-2005 04:29 PM

Copying from PDF (if copying is permitted): Just use the Text Selection Tool, select the Text and click Edit/Copy.

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At any rate, see if you can stop me from making CHM files on my own computer (not to distribute).
Feel free to do that for your own. But as said, I do not allow distributing CHMs.

Volatile Settings will be deleted upon update. However, vBulletin only deletes its own (eg. produvt=vbulletin) Settings.

akanevsky 08-01-2005 04:55 PM

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That's really anal. That's like saying "I refuse to zip my hacks because I hate the WinZip program. I am blatantly ignoring the fact that WinRar/WinAce/[insert name of unpacking software for Mac/Linux/Unix] can unpack these files."
Making the How-to's HARDER to use is IMHO completely against the point of making them. I consider this a kick in the nuts to the community. This paragraph (and only this) will be retracted if someone can show me a way to copy/paste from Adobe Reader. I refuse to install any other piece of software to be able to copy/paste from a .pdf document, as I do not feel the need to clutter my computer with crap that will be used 1 or 2 times.
At any rate, see if you can stop me from making CHM files on my own computer (not to distribute).
I agree. "Reason = I dont like MS" is a very lame statememnt...

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Copying from PDF (if copying is permitted): Just use the Text Selection Tool, select the Text and click Edit/Copy.
That means I have to install Adobe PDF Editor, which is a bloated program that takes up a lot of space in my computer, and that is the reason why I do not have it installed. I'd rather just read the HowTo's from this site rather than from a PDF file...

Oh. And how can you restrict distrubting the CHM's? It's not like it is a copyrighted material. As long as your name is stated - there is no reason behind not distributing them, as well as there is no way you can "not allow it"...

Andreas 08-01-2005 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
That means I have to install Adobe PDF Editor, which is a bloated program that takes up a lot of space in my computer, and that is the reason why I do not have it installed.

No, just Arcobat Reader.

You don't like PDF, I don't like CHM and therefor I just don't support it.
So where is the Problem?

You can read the How-TOs here, build a CHM on your own or use the PDF (when there is one, which currently isn't the case anyway).

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And how can you restrict distrubting the CHM's? It's not like it is a copyrighted material. As long as your name is stated - there is no reason behind not distributing them...
It is copyrighted material. Everything one writes is automatically copyrighted if not stated otherwise.
(Although this might not always be the case considering general small talk and german copyright laws).

But if you feel happy, I can explicitly point this out too.

akanevsky 08-01-2005 05:07 PM

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No, just Arcobat Reader.
"just Acrobat Reader" is bloated enough itself... I prefer to use Easy PDF Reader, which consumes much less memory and therefore is easier to use. It, however, does not allow copying of the contents.

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You don't like PDF, I don't like CHM and therefor I just don't support it.
So where is the Problem?
The problem is that you are a minority on this case... The majority does prefer CHM. That's called being selfish. If you don't do it for other people, then why do it at all? I don't think anybody wants it in PDF format at all.

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It is copyrighted material. Everything one writes is automatically copyrighted if not stated otherwise.
(Although this might not always be the case considering general small talk and german copyright laws).

But if you feel happy, I can explicitly point this out too.
Ok. You are right - it is copyrighted. But as long as something is free and accessible by everyone, distribution in an easy-to-use-for-people format should be promoted. Because it will just make your name more known to other people. Besides, if I am stating your name in every article, I am not breaking the copyright. Prove me wrong.

Andreas 08-01-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Visor
Besides, if I am stating your name in every article, I am not breaking the copyright. Prove me wrong.

Don't know for other contries, but german copyright laws do only permit personal usage and short ecerpts if you are publishing smth., you can't quote the whole document.

PDF is easy to use and available on multiple Platforms.

I am not going to support CHM.

EOD
[/ot]

Dream 08-03-2005 03:51 PM

are product phrases considered orphan phrases?

tehste 08-03-2005 04:05 PM

I like the product/hook thing I found it intuitive enough. Though it was always nice to read what you had to say about it, oh and this thread has provided some good amusement...

Princeton 08-28-2005 07:14 PM

Just starting to get into 3.5 - excellent tutorial :up:

thank you

EDIT: Is there any way to add a new hook without editing the xml file?


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