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dxlwebs 01-23-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by futureye (Post 1722454)
what about other lang like arabic

Zoints SEO has three primary options for URL rewriting:

1. No URL rewriting
2. URL rewriting without mod_rewrite. Why use this? If you want to insert keywords in the url but don't have mod_rewrite available or don't want to expend the resources (using mod_rewrite is server intensive and slows page generation) then this is a viable solution.
3. The mod_rewrite everyone knows and prefers.

option one does nothing and option two does the same as the third just without the need of the mod_rewrite tool option two is good for poeple like hosted servers wherethey cannot install the mod_rewrite tool

currently there are no other languages ifsome onewas to make the translations i would be happy to do what is needed

dxlwebs 01-23-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by djbaxter (Post 1722466)
I would recommend option 1. The available evidence indicates that keywords in a domain name help but that keywords in the page URL have little or no impact on SE ranking. By enabling any form of URL rewrite, you are adding to server load with little or no return.

And the reality is that vBulletin is SE friendly out of the box. Pick any area and do a search for forums in that area. To narrow it down, tack vBulletin on to the end of the search query. Then look at the URL structure for the forums in the search results. How many of the top forums are using URL rewrite?

That said, there are several other reasons why I think Zoints SEO is helpful and it's for those features that I have it installed.

if you use option one you will not get friendly urls i would recommend using option 2 this is far better unless you have the mod_rewrite tool!

option two is much better for search engines with much nicer urls for the normal user to remember as well!

djbaxter 01-23-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dxlwebs (Post 1722481)
option two is much better for search engines with much nicer urls for the normal user to remember as well!

I've yet to see any evidence to support that claim. There was a time when SEs had difficulty with dynamic URLs but that hasn't been the case for a long time now. All modern SEs spider and follow dynamic URLs with ease.

And Google has recently recommended against the use of URL rewriting:

See Dynamic URLs vs. static URLs. Here is an excerpt:

Quote:

Should I try to make my dynamic URLs look static?
Following are some key points you should keep in mind while dealing with dynamic URLs:
  1. It's quite hard to correctly create and maintain rewrites that change dynamic URLs to static-looking URLs.
  2. It's much safer to serve us the original dynamic URL and let us handle the problem of detecting and avoiding problematic parameters.
  3. If you want to rewrite your URL, please remove unnecessary parameters while maintaining a dynamic-looking URL.
  4. If you want to serve a static URL instead of a dynamic URL you should create a static equivalent of your content.
Which can Googlebot read better, static or dynamic URLs?
We've come across many webmasters who, like our friend, believed that static or static-looking URLs were an advantage for indexing and ranking their sites. This is based on the presumption that search engines have issues with crawling and analyzing URLs that include session IDs or source trackers. However, as a matter of fact, we at Google have made some progress in both areas. While static URLs might have a slight advantage in terms of clickthrough rates because users can easily read the urls, the decision to use database-driven websites does not imply a significant disadvantage in terms of indexing and ranking. Providing search engines with dynamic URLs should be favored over hiding parameters to make them look static.

Let's now look at some of the widespread beliefs concerning dynamic URLs and correct some of the assumptions which spook webmasters. :)

Myth: "Dynamic URLs cannot be crawled."
Fact: We can crawl dynamic URLs and interpret the different parameters. We might have problems crawling and ranking your dynamic URLs if you try to make your urls look static and in the process hide parameters which offer the Googlebot valuable information. One recommendation is to avoid reformatting a dynamic URL to make it look static. It's always advisable to use static content with static URLs as much as possible, but in cases where you decide to use dynamic content, you should give us the possibility to analyze your URL structure and not remove information by hiding parameters and making them look static.

Myth: "Dynamic URLs are okay if you use fewer than three parameters."
Fact: There is no limit on the number of parameters, but a good rule of thumb would be to keep your URLs short (this applies to all URLs, whether static or dynamic). You may be able to remove some parameters which aren't essential for Googlebot and offer your users a nice looking dynamic URL. If you are not able to figure out which parameters to remove, we'd advise you to serve us all the parameters in your dynamic URL and our system will figure out which ones do not matter. Hiding your parameters keeps us from analyzing your URLs properly and we won't be able to recognize the parameters as such, which could cause a loss of valuable information.

Following are some questions we thought you might have at this point.

Does that mean I should avoid rewriting dynamic URLs at all?
That's our recommendation, unless your rewrites are limited to removing unnecessary parameters, or you are very diligent in removing all parameters that could cause problems. If you transform your dynamic URL to make it look static you should be aware that we might not be able to interpret the information correctly in all cases. If you want to serve a static equivalent of your site, you might want to consider transforming the underlying content by serving a replacement which is truly static. One example would be to generate files for all the paths and make them accessible somewhere on your site. However, if you're using URL rewriting (rather than making a copy of the content) to produce static-looking URLs from a dynamic site, you could be doing harm rather than good. Feel free to serve us your standard dynamic URL and we will automatically find the parameters which are unnecessary
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rob01 01-23-2009 04:11 PM

how much resource or server loading vbseo adds?

veenuisthebest 01-23-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dxlwebs (Post 1722423)
i run many sites off my own server at home and i find it cheaper than any hostings and easier anyways!

you should all have your own server if your hoping fora good site :D

May I know how much does it cost including softwares, maintenance etc. What are your server specs?

Thanks

djbaxter 01-23-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rob01 (Post 1722488)
how much resource or server loading vbseo adds?

You should probably ask that question at the vBSEO forum.

IcheeWaWa 01-23-2009 04:40 PM

I've been running Zoints SEO for a long time and am happy with its performance.

The only issue I have right now is that I use vba CMPS at the root of my forums. Links from that page are not rewritten (when you hover/click the link). I can live with it, as I have for quite some time. If there's a fix, I'd be happy to know what it is.

Thanks for the free mod!

dxlwebs 01-23-2009 04:45 PM

well i gues url rewrite is another one of though things that no one person can say is right or wrong i prefer it my self easier to remember the links and google pays much more attention to my site with it enabled!

Quote:

Originally Posted by veenuisthebest (Post 1722489)
May I know how much does it cost including softwares, maintenance etc. What are your server specs?

Thanks

sure all i pay really is electric which with the right power supply is very cheap about 10$ a month in electric for me domains depends on where you buy from internet connect currently im using 3 mbs upload and 3 download which is sufficient enough for me!

i use ubuntu server which is a free community linux server comes with everything you need to host your sites on!

my server specs is a old pc really i brought in a second hand market for 30$ i has 1gb ram a pentium 4 processor 80gb hdd and a 16mb graphics card the server runs 24/7 and has its case sides off and runs at 50% constantly only time it uses more resorces is when its updating!

im not a rich person so when it comes to myserver i get everything second hand the only real thing that needs to be good is the ram and hard drive then you should be fine

dxlwebs 01-23-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IcheeWaWa (Post 1722518)
I've been running Zoints SEO for a long time and am happy with its performance.

The only issue I have right now is that I use vba CMPS at the root of my forums. Links from that page are not rewritten (when you hover/click the link). I can live with it, as I have for quite some time. If there's a fix, I'd be happy to know what it is.

Thanks for the free mod!

ki have been trying to figure thisone out the change i made in this version should have made them work but still nothing on the vbadvanced side ill keep looking i might have missed something and ill correct it in the next version!

i know whatyou mean its bugging me too!

puertoblack2003 01-23-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dxlwebs (Post 1722521)
well i gues url rewrite is another one of though things that no one person can say is right or wrong i prefer it my self easier to remember the links and google pays much more attention to my site with it enabled!



sure all i pay really is electric which with the right power supply is very cheap about 10$ a month in electric for me domains depends on where you buy from internet connect currently im using 3 mbs upload and 3 download which is sufficient enough for me!

i use ubuntu server which is a free community linux server comes with everything you need to host your sites on!

my server specs is a old pc really i brought in a second hand market for 30$ i has 1gb ram a pentium 4 processor 80gb hdd and a 16mb graphics card the server runs 24/7 and has its case sides off and runs at 50% constantly only time it uses more resorces is when its updating!

im not a rich person so when it comes to myserver i get everything second hand the only real thing that needs to be good is the ram and hard drive then you should be fine




testing this on my test server is it appears to be ok before i go live.And i agree hosting your own server is cheaper and not only that its dedicated no need to worry about resource.I do have my own server been doing it since 2005 .but mines is windows with the latest packages i'm learning the linux box so i can run the site on that but over all its good.


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