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Jase2 06-14-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by King Kovifor (Post 1549083)
Closing the forum would remove the ability for members to get the help they need for their forum. As I see it, that is in no way a viable option, and looking at how the administration had handled it, I would say they agree.

How would it? They can post in the general vBulletin forum and seek help. The paid requests forum is just messed up, and scammers are signing up because they know they can get away with it. Like nexialys said, do you even see the coders who help in the "Paid Requests" forum helping in the non-paid request forum....NO! You don't! They are just waiting until they are told by one of you post in the "Paid Request" before they too accept the inevitable and get SCAMMED!

nexialys 06-14-2008 11:56 AM

i know that a lot of projects suggested in the not-paid requests are evaluated to be big projects that would cost a lot of time and efforts, but then again, there is already a lot of requests that are not requesting more than 2 minutes of code that are posted in the paid forum because everybody is lazy without cash at the end right now...

some people will always require that everything is coded for free, and we always have coders who require that they get paid for their codes... we can't avoid that... but as Princeton indicate, working on requests here and giving positive results will bring you a good reference, and a portfolio too... because i know that a lot of the actual releases on the Mods section are created due to requests here.... and most of the time, in the paid requests we have no possibility to release exclusive works...

aceofspades 06-14-2008 12:15 PM

With the feedback system, how would you stop a coder getting his friend to create a fake paid request thread, and then saying the coder completed the job perfectly when actually he did nothing at all?

That way a user could have perfect feedback and still rip people off.

nexialys 06-14-2008 12:22 PM

that's what we've seen lately though... someone asked all his small clients to post a review in the very old threads they created, blah blah...

Dean C 06-14-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aceofspades (Post 1549115)
With the feedback system, how would you stop a coder getting his friend to create a fake paid request thread, and then saying the coder completed the job perfectly when actually he did nothing at all?

That way a user could have perfect feedback and still rip people off.

You can't, but it's better than nothing. The "Service Requests" forum was set up to aid members, and it does that for the large majority, but until something is done about the bad apples, this site will get a bad reputation.

Boofo 06-14-2008 12:36 PM

How long are we gonna beat this dead horse?

Dismounted 06-14-2008 12:49 PM

Someone will always complain. If we closed the forum - someone would complain. If we keep the forum open - someone will complain. If we implement a feedback system - someone will complain that no one hires them because they have no feedback.

We can't make everyone happy at the same time...

nexialys 06-14-2008 12:56 PM

close vBulletin.org, everybody at IPB will be happy...

see Hanson, everybody SOMEWHERE can be happy.. lol

Marco van Herwaarden 06-14-2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jase2 (Post 1549049)
...Or just close it until you have a feed-back system.

There already is a feedback system: Reply to your Paid Request thread with your experiences with the person who took the job.

If we would see that this feedback "system" is used on most Paid Requests threads, then we would start to think about adding a specialised feedback system in order to make it more user friendly. I really don't see why staff should implement something if members already don't use the tools that they already have.

It has to come from both sides, you can not expect staff to do everything for you. Start by showing us that people are really interested in a feedback system by using the tools already available first.

bitbender 06-14-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boofo (Post 1548828)
And why in the hell am I third on the list?! Let's be using the DESC variable. Discrimination due to age is illegal, you know. :D

Discrimination due to girth size is much worse, mate :D


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